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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44041 Posts
3 hours ago
#115301
lol. just lol.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
1797 Posts
2 hours ago
#115302
On June 07 2026 07:53 dyhb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2026 05:39 Introvert wrote:
I said if he's a fascist Dems should have been willing to make steep compromises. Their unwillingness belies their rhetoric.

Show nested quote +
But I still say if one was trying to defeat a fascist they would soften they policy stances to try and prevent said fascist from winning. That might be the most stark example of being a "moderate."
It's a fair point, and one of the aspects I hope the Democrats use to win in 2028. If the country is crashing down, and through this country the world, then almost any compromise to pick up more in the middle is Priority #1. If this is politics as usual, and you want a bigger victory through unabashed support for numbers 1 through 20 of progressive policy goals (a win and a mandate), then continue acting as I observe. I want Trump gone and (likely) Vance defeated, and I want Democrats to moderate in order to make that a resounding victory.

Sorry if you think it's just so unfair to pivot for an election win. You're dealing with the electorate that exists, not the one you think you deserve.

What do you specifically mean by moderate though? Like what was Harris doing that was so wild? She was basically going to be more Biden, who was famously moderate, often making deals with the Republicans to the chagrin of the American Leftist.

What, other than right wing media yelling about it, made Harris radical?
EnDeR_
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Spain2893 Posts
51 minutes ago
#115303
Thanks for your responses introvert, it is interesting to read about how you think.

For me, I don't know about my fellow profs as we don't normally go into each other's lectures, I don't interact socially with the students and I keep politics out of my solid state physics lectures. It's boring old equations and lattice drawings. This is the norm in every department I've ever taught at - some profs are more political than others but we tend to be extremely careful about what we say and do in lectures because they are recorded and students can use them to make a claim against us.

Which is part of why I think the university is broken, university life has changed a lot in the last 10 years. The system is setup with students as the customers, so we keep lowering our standards to make them happy so we get a good review (university rankings) and attract more students. The students are extremely well aware of this and learn how to exert pressure early on to remove as many academic challenges as possible. Every year we add in more mitigation, and don't get me started on the use of chat bots to do their work, cognitive surrender is real and very widely spread. We are letting our students down and not getting them ready for the requirements of the workplace.

Regarding political activity on campus, that's mostly student-led. We do not get involved as a general rule. I'm sure some profs do get involved, don't get me wrong, but it's not something you'd promote as a department, at least in STEM. I have zero experience teaching in a humanities department or political degrees so can't comment on that.
estás más desubicao q un croissant en un plato de nécoras
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44041 Posts
35 minutes ago
#115304
It doesn’t matter if it’s student led, the left wing students must be silenced if we want any hope of achieving free speech.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44041 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-06-07 06:15:17
28 minutes ago
#115305
In other news Hegseth delivered a D-Day speech in which he criticized invaders storming beaches on boats. The European continent and people must be defended against these foreign invaders.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
dyhb
Profile Joined August 2021
United States367 Posts
19 minutes ago
#115306
On June 07 2026 13:16 Billyboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2026 07:53 dyhb wrote:
On June 07 2026 05:39 Introvert wrote:
I said if he's a fascist Dems should have been willing to make steep compromises. Their unwillingness belies their rhetoric.

But I still say if one was trying to defeat a fascist they would soften they policy stances to try and prevent said fascist from winning. That might be the most stark example of being a "moderate."
It's a fair point, and one of the aspects I hope the Democrats use to win in 2028. If the country is crashing down, and through this country the world, then almost any compromise to pick up more in the middle is Priority #1. If this is politics as usual, and you want a bigger victory through unabashed support for numbers 1 through 20 of progressive policy goals (a win and a mandate), then continue acting as I observe. I want Trump gone and (likely) Vance defeated, and I want Democrats to moderate in order to make that a resounding victory.

Sorry if you think it's just so unfair to pivot for an election win. You're dealing with the electorate that exists, not the one you think you deserve.

What do you specifically mean by moderate though? Like what was Harris doing that was so wild? She was basically going to be more Biden, who was famously moderate, often making deals with the Republicans to the chagrin of the American Leftist.

What, other than right wing media yelling about it, made Harris radical?
I'd really ask you if you know what compromise means, and if you can observe the tension that I'm pointing out in the post. You'll notice that you're bringing Kamala to the discussion, not I. And perhaps you meant to reply to a post about Kamala and radicalism.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4986 Posts
1 minute ago
#115307
On June 07 2026 15:07 KwarK wrote:
It doesn’t matter if it’s student led, the left wing students must be silenced if we want any hope of achieving free speech.


Didn't say that
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
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