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That you see it as menial would be hugely insulting if you were actually doing anything other then typing angry shit into the abyss and talking real tough. No one has asked you for what you have claimed they have, they have asked you for some real basic shit that if you had done ANYTHING you could easily answer. Your just to disaffected to do anything at all, or plain old lazy. And coming on here and insulting people actually trying I guess makes you feel superior or some other lame shit. Show nested quote +What is the plan to make sure the violence works and is not just an excuse to do everything that people are scared of? How many people required? Who is organizing? What is the plan to get the military and police on board? What percentage of those organizations do you think would support vs fight against your proposed solution? How do you over power the rest?
This is literally you asking for an extremely in depth plan from someone who has never claimed to have a plan or be a leader, lmao.
Sorry if I find the idea that knocking on people's doors to be wildly ineffectual in the face of a movement known for its violent action like disappearing people off the streets and putting people into fucking concentration camps. I look at WW2 and definitely ask, "why didnt they just knock on more German doors to stop the Nazis?"
If you really believe America is that dire and that is all that will work, then WTF are you not doing it? You would need to get some other people with you, but you would probably need to at the very least stop insulting anyone who asks you, what now?
Because lone actors arent going to do shit, fascism is either going to spontaneously combust because American fascists are unfathomably idiotic, or its going to escalate to a point of a mass mobilization and any violence before enough people are participating in violence is just going to be pointless, imo. No lone actor is going to take on the American police or military state with any degree of success, lol.
If you wonder why you to lesser a degree and GH all the time gets accused of play acting on the internet, it is because if anyone remotely competent thought the things that were written FOR REAL, they would do something, anything about it. That you think my questions are hard only shows that you have done absolutely nothing. And all these people that are not saying what I am, either don't believe you actually believe it, or do not think you are competent enough to accomplish anything. Sure they are being "nice" but they are not being kind.
Noone accuses me of that because this thread doesnt have the same baggage with me as it does with GH.
Ive tried showing up at protests, and its worthless and pointless. People have learned that protests without the threat of violence have a really, really easy counter. Ignore them. Wait and do nothing because people cant support long term protests under a capitalist society with a hyper aggressive police state.
Voting is obviously a stupid fucking plan, voting has produced one result, and its the electing of fascists. That plan is actively failing.
Can't rely on an opposition party because Democrats are weak and spineless and more attached to their donors than they are to democracy, they, like you, would rather punch left and complain that people arent voting for them hard enough.
So uh, why should I believe that anything other than that the US will succumb to fascists or that the fascists implode?
At this point either violence or the fascists themselves will be responsible for the downfall of fascism.
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On August 07 2025 09:20 Zambrah wrote:Show nested quote +That you see it as menial would be hugely insulting if you were actually doing anything other then typing angry shit into the abyss and talking real tough. No one has asked you for what you have claimed they have, they have asked you for some real basic shit that if you had done ANYTHING you could easily answer. Your just to disaffected to do anything at all, or plain old lazy. And coming on here and insulting people actually trying I guess makes you feel superior or some other lame shit. What is the plan to make sure the violence works and is not just an excuse to do everything that people are scared of? How many people required? Who is organizing? What is the plan to get the military and police on board? What percentage of those organizations do you think would support vs fight against your proposed solution? How do you over power the rest? This is literally you asking for an extremely in depth plan from someone who has never claimed to have a plan or be a leader, lmao. Sorry if I find the idea that knocking on people's doors to be wildly ineffectual in the face of a movement known for its violent action like disappearing people off the streets and putting people into fucking concentration camps. I look at WW2 and definitely ask, "why didnt they just knock on more German doors to stop the Nazis?" Show nested quote +If you really believe America is that dire and that is all that will work, then WTF are you not doing it? You would need to get some other people with you, but you would probably need to at the very least stop insulting anyone who asks you, what now? Because lone actors arent going to do shit, fascism is either going to spontaneously combust because American fascists are unfathomably idiotic, or its going to escalate to a point of a mass mobilization and any violence before enough people are participating in violence is just going to be pointless, imo. No lone actor is going to take on the American police or military state with any degree of success, lol. Show nested quote +If you wonder why you to lesser a degree and GH all the time gets accused of play acting on the internet, it is because if anyone remotely competent thought the things that were written FOR REAL, they would do something, anything about it. That you think my questions are hard only shows that you have done absolutely nothing. And all these people that are not saying what I am, either don't believe you actually believe it, or do not think you are competent enough to accomplish anything. Sure they are being "nice" but they are not being kind. Noone accuses me of that because this thread doesnt have the same baggage with me as it does with GH. Ive tried showing up at protests, and its worthless and pointless. People have learned that protests without the threat of violence have a really, really easy counter. Ignore them. Wait and do nothing because people cant support long term protests under a capitalist society with a hyper aggressive police state. Voting is obviously a stupid fucking plan, voting has produced one result, and its the electing of fascists. That plan is actively failing. Can't rely on an opposition party because Democrats are weak and spineless and more attached to their donors than they are to democracy, they, like you, would rather punch left and complain that people arent voting for them hard enough. So uh, why should I believe that anything other than that the US will succumb to fascists or that the fascists implode? At this point either violence or the fascists themselves will be responsible for the downfall of fascism.
Not voting is what elected Trump.
If people didnt stay home we would at least be trying to solve the problem with control of some levers of government.
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On August 07 2025 06:26 BlackJack wrote:
Jimmi, you're going to find yourself real unpopular around these parts if you try to ruin the immersion for those trying to RP their armed resistance to fascism from their computer chairs.
Coincidently I think this is important point about left. "Somebody needs to do it" not me, obviously I have to post stuff, but somebody. Internet was blessing and a curse.
Edit: "Somebody needs to do it" is obviously not hate speech, or inciting violence, because of reasons...
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On August 07 2025 10:30 Sadist wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2025 09:20 Zambrah wrote:That you see it as menial would be hugely insulting if you were actually doing anything other then typing angry shit into the abyss and talking real tough. No one has asked you for what you have claimed they have, they have asked you for some real basic shit that if you had done ANYTHING you could easily answer. Your just to disaffected to do anything at all, or plain old lazy. And coming on here and insulting people actually trying I guess makes you feel superior or some other lame shit. What is the plan to make sure the violence works and is not just an excuse to do everything that people are scared of? How many people required? Who is organizing? What is the plan to get the military and police on board? What percentage of those organizations do you think would support vs fight against your proposed solution? How do you over power the rest? This is literally you asking for an extremely in depth plan from someone who has never claimed to have a plan or be a leader, lmao. Sorry if I find the idea that knocking on people's doors to be wildly ineffectual in the face of a movement known for its violent action like disappearing people off the streets and putting people into fucking concentration camps. I look at WW2 and definitely ask, "why didnt they just knock on more German doors to stop the Nazis?" If you really believe America is that dire and that is all that will work, then WTF are you not doing it? You would need to get some other people with you, but you would probably need to at the very least stop insulting anyone who asks you, what now? Because lone actors arent going to do shit, fascism is either going to spontaneously combust because American fascists are unfathomably idiotic, or its going to escalate to a point of a mass mobilization and any violence before enough people are participating in violence is just going to be pointless, imo. No lone actor is going to take on the American police or military state with any degree of success, lol. If you wonder why you to lesser a degree and GH all the time gets accused of play acting on the internet, it is because if anyone remotely competent thought the things that were written FOR REAL, they would do something, anything about it. That you think my questions are hard only shows that you have done absolutely nothing. And all these people that are not saying what I am, either don't believe you actually believe it, or do not think you are competent enough to accomplish anything. Sure they are being "nice" but they are not being kind. Noone accuses me of that because this thread doesnt have the same baggage with me as it does with GH. Ive tried showing up at protests, and its worthless and pointless. People have learned that protests without the threat of violence have a really, really easy counter. Ignore them. Wait and do nothing because people cant support long term protests under a capitalist society with a hyper aggressive police state. Voting is obviously a stupid fucking plan, voting has produced one result, and its the electing of fascists. That plan is actively failing. Can't rely on an opposition party because Democrats are weak and spineless and more attached to their donors than they are to democracy, they, like you, would rather punch left and complain that people arent voting for them hard enough. So uh, why should I believe that anything other than that the US will succumb to fascists or that the fascists implode? At this point either violence or the fascists themselves will be responsible for the downfall of fascism. Not voting is what elected Trump. If people didnt stay home we would at least be trying to solve the problem with control of some levers of government.
I’m sorry but I find this overly simplistic, in the hypothetical world where every single person voted Democrats probably do win, but just blaming people for not voting isn’t an effective analysis of Democrats failure in the last election.
Fascism has been built up to through decades of neglect and the consequences of letting capitalism run amok. Allowing housing to become a commodity instead of a human necessity, the dire abuses of capitalist run healthcare and the perverse incentives that lead to tons of suffering and death, letting corporations act as people when it comes to campaign donations, the road was paved for fascism by capitalistic excess and Democrats dont get to say that they didn’t have a hand in it.
US politics has had a deep, vicious rot that’s been cultivated by both parties and while Republicans are worse they are not solely responsible for it.
Democrats would do better in elections if they were perceived to actually wield power effectively for the average person, and they actually followed through on that perception.
Half measures and adequate (by the standards of comparing to Republicans which is a disastrously low bar) governance were simply not enough to make the average American feel like their lives weren’t being degraded, and Democrats spent too long pivoting to the right for no gain and chiding people for wanting them to do better.
If there’s any electoral path forward it starts with Democrats doing better and there is simply no instance of them doing anything but trying to commit to their Business as Usual Bullshit. Even immediately post election the Harris campaign refused to admit they did anything wrong which is asinine given they sidelined Walz for the fucking Cheneys.
Democrats are too incompetent and out of touch to be an effective opposition in the US.
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On August 07 2025 11:13 Razyda wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2025 06:26 BlackJack wrote:
Jimmi, you're going to find yourself real unpopular around these parts if you try to ruin the immersion for those trying to RP their armed resistance to fascism from their computer chairs. Coincidently I think this is important point about left. " Somebody needs to do it" not me, obviously I have to post stuff, but somebody. Internet was blessing and a curse. Edit: "Somebody needs to do it" is obviously not hate speech, or inciting violence, because of reasons...
This is one step above a basic liberal who throws up their hands and goes, “Welp! We didn’t get 70 Senate seats and 400 House seats, so better luck in four years!”
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On August 07 2025 11:34 Zambrah wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2025 11:13 Razyda wrote:On August 07 2025 06:26 BlackJack wrote:
Jimmi, you're going to find yourself real unpopular around these parts if you try to ruin the immersion for those trying to RP their armed resistance to fascism from their computer chairs. Coincidently I think this is important point about left. " Somebody needs to do it" not me, obviously I have to post stuff, but somebody. Internet was blessing and a curse. Edit: "Somebody needs to do it" is obviously not hate speech, or inciting violence, because of reasons... This is one step above a basic liberal who throws up their hands and goes, “Welp! We didn’t get 70 Senate seats and 400 House seats, so better luck in four years!”
I dont think it is. I think this is the core of the left issue, there is nobody willing to do something, but loads of people willing to whine. Hence the internet mention.
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On August 07 2025 11:40 Razyda wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2025 11:34 Zambrah wrote:On August 07 2025 11:13 Razyda wrote:On August 07 2025 06:26 BlackJack wrote:
Jimmi, you're going to find yourself real unpopular around these parts if you try to ruin the immersion for those trying to RP their armed resistance to fascism from their computer chairs. Coincidently I think this is important point about left. " Somebody needs to do it" not me, obviously I have to post stuff, but somebody. Internet was blessing and a curse. Edit: "Somebody needs to do it" is obviously not hate speech, or inciting violence, because of reasons... This is one step above a basic liberal who throws up their hands and goes, “Welp! We didn’t get 70 Senate seats and 400 House seats, so better luck in four years!” I dont think it is. I think this is the core of the left issue, there is nobody willing to do something, but loads of people willing to whine. Hence the internet mention.
The core of the left issue is the left is everyone's favorite punching bag. "Dont criticize Democrats because that will make Republicans win!" "Dont vote for leftist candidates in primaries because they can't beat Republicans!" "Leftists are turning the kids gay and trans!" "Leftists are a minority and should shut up and do whatever the centrists want!" "Leftists are the reason Democrats lose elections!"
Republicans may be evil but Democrats and liberals are insufferable.
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On August 07 2025 11:49 Zambrah wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2025 11:40 Razyda wrote:On August 07 2025 11:34 Zambrah wrote:On August 07 2025 11:13 Razyda wrote:On August 07 2025 06:26 BlackJack wrote:
Jimmi, you're going to find yourself real unpopular around these parts if you try to ruin the immersion for those trying to RP their armed resistance to fascism from their computer chairs. Coincidently I think this is important point about left. " Somebody needs to do it" not me, obviously I have to post stuff, but somebody. Internet was blessing and a curse. Edit: "Somebody needs to do it" is obviously not hate speech, or inciting violence, because of reasons... This is one step above a basic liberal who throws up their hands and goes, “Welp! We didn’t get 70 Senate seats and 400 House seats, so better luck in four years!” I dont think it is. I think this is the core of the left issue, there is nobody willing to do something, but loads of people willing to whine. Hence the internet mention. The core of the left issue is the left is everyone's favorite punching bag. "Dont criticize Democrats because that will make Republicans win!" "Dont vote for leftist candidates in primaries because they can't beat Republicans!" "Leftists are turning the kids gay and trans!" "Leftists are a minority and should shut up and do whatever the centrists want!" "Leftists are the reason Democrats lose elections!" Republicans may be evil but Democrats and liberals are insufferable.
"The core of the left issue is the left is everyone's favorite punching bag. "Dont criticize Democrats because that will make Republicans win!" "Dont vote for leftist candidates in primaries because they can't beat Republicans!" "Leftists are turning the kids gay and trans!" "Leftists are a minority and should shut up and do whatever the centrists want!" "Leftists are the reason Democrats lose elections!"" - Issue is that they willingly put themselves in that position, and then doubled down. Even bigger issue is that they doubled down on loosing position (social) rather than winning one (economic).
"Republicans may be evil but Democrats and liberals are insufferable - like really??
The very reason that someone who disagree with you is deemed evil, is what makes Democrats and liberals insufferable
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On August 07 2025 11:49 Zambrah wrote:Show nested quote +On August 07 2025 11:40 Razyda wrote:On August 07 2025 11:34 Zambrah wrote:On August 07 2025 11:13 Razyda wrote:On August 07 2025 06:26 BlackJack wrote:
Jimmi, you're going to find yourself real unpopular around these parts if you try to ruin the immersion for those trying to RP their armed resistance to fascism from their computer chairs. Coincidently I think this is important point about left. " Somebody needs to do it" not me, obviously I have to post stuff, but somebody. Internet was blessing and a curse. Edit: "Somebody needs to do it" is obviously not hate speech, or inciting violence, because of reasons... This is one step above a basic liberal who throws up their hands and goes, “Welp! We didn’t get 70 Senate seats and 400 House seats, so better luck in four years!” I dont think it is. I think this is the core of the left issue, there is nobody willing to do something, but loads of people willing to whine. Hence the internet mention. The core of the left issue is the left is everyone's favorite punching bag. "Dont criticize Democrats because that will make Republicans win!" "Dont vote for leftist candidates in primaries because they can't beat Republicans!" "Leftists are turning the kids gay and trans!" "Leftists are a minority and should shut up and do whatever the centrists want!" "Leftists are the reason Democrats lose elections!" Republicans may be evil but Democrats and liberals are insufferable.
I'm pretty sure the feelings are mutual. ;-)
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