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On March 28 2025 04:02 Vivax wrote:
Maybe there‘s potential around Greenland for offshore oil drilling or north pole sources of energy.
Don‘t see what it gives strategically. Maybe it‘s where he wants to build vaults fallout-style like they did in Norway.
Consuming less energy is too hard to achieve. But everyone else are parasites. The charts beg to differ.
You're way overthinking it. It makes the US occupy more space on the map, that's the main reason.
That's how the nationalist brain works, all the European ones decorate their offices with a map of the largest extent their country has been at in history. And being the guy that expanded it is their holy grail.
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On March 28 2025 05:24 Dan HH wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2025 04:02 Vivax wrote:
Maybe there‘s potential around Greenland for offshore oil drilling or north pole sources of energy.
Don‘t see what it gives strategically. Maybe it‘s where he wants to build vaults fallout-style like they did in Norway.
Consuming less energy is too hard to achieve. But everyone else are parasites. The charts beg to differ. You're way overthinking it. It makes the US occupy more space on the map, that's the main reason. That's how the nationalist brain works, all the European ones decorate their offices with a map of the largest extent their country has been at in history. And being the guy that expanded it is their holy grail.
Ah, the Europa Universalis school of political thought.
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On March 28 2025 05:31 Simberto wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2025 05:24 Dan HH wrote:On March 28 2025 04:02 Vivax wrote:
Maybe there‘s potential around Greenland for offshore oil drilling or north pole sources of energy.
Don‘t see what it gives strategically. Maybe it‘s where he wants to build vaults fallout-style like they did in Norway.
Consuming less energy is too hard to achieve. But everyone else are parasites. The charts beg to differ. You're way overthinking it. It makes the US occupy more space on the map, that's the main reason. That's how the nationalist brain works, all the European ones decorate their offices with a map of the largest extent their country has been at in history. And being the guy that expanded it is their holy grail. Ah, the Europa Universalis school of political thought.
If Trump was much younger, I'm sure video games would be blamed for his views on how world politics work. He is just spamming Denmark to trade Greenland for nothing.
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On March 28 2025 05:24 Dan HH wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2025 04:02 Vivax wrote:
Maybe there‘s potential around Greenland for offshore oil drilling or north pole sources of energy.
Don‘t see what it gives strategically. Maybe it‘s where he wants to build vaults fallout-style like they did in Norway.
Consuming less energy is too hard to achieve. But everyone else are parasites. The charts beg to differ. You're way overthinking it. It makes the US occupy more space on the map, that's the main reason. That's how the nationalist brain works, all the European ones decorate their offices with a map of the largest extent their country has been at in history. And being the guy that expanded it is their holy grail.
He decided or has been told that fighting Russia isn‘t worth it. It‘s better to extort his former allies for scraps.
You don‘t see much about the role the Saudis play, being the biggest oil producer before Rosneft.
Europe was well along the way of getting hooked to Saudi, Russian and Chinese economies and still is.
Minus the Russian economy because they have indirect US support now.
Scummy Trump.
What if Denmark and Greenland make the concessions and the war ends afterwards with a Russian victory? They gain absolutely nothing but invested everything.
Apparently it‘s for national security. Why all of Greenland ? Using ports and bases is already possible I bet.
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On March 28 2025 05:39 Legan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2025 05:31 Simberto wrote:On March 28 2025 05:24 Dan HH wrote:On March 28 2025 04:02 Vivax wrote:
Maybe there‘s potential around Greenland for offshore oil drilling or north pole sources of energy.
Don‘t see what it gives strategically. Maybe it‘s where he wants to build vaults fallout-style like they did in Norway.
Consuming less energy is too hard to achieve. But everyone else are parasites. The charts beg to differ. You're way overthinking it. It makes the US occupy more space on the map, that's the main reason. That's how the nationalist brain works, all the European ones decorate their offices with a map of the largest extent their country has been at in history. And being the guy that expanded it is their holy grail. Ah, the Europa Universalis school of political thought. If Trump was much younger, I'm sure video games would be blamed for his views on how world politics work. He is just spamming Denmark to trade Greenland for nothing.
LibHorizons: No one is going to stop him from all this but himself it seems. I'll reiterate my thoughts on this Greenland nonsense.
On March 26 2025 11:45 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2025 11:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On March 26 2025 10:27 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 26 2025 06:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On March 26 2025 06:06 Laurens wrote:
Vance also visiting Greenland now.
They’re not really going to annex it right, right? I'm leaning towards No - I think Trump is mostly just posturing and trying to show off how he can threaten everyone and still be untouchable - but who knows? If someone was going to arbitrarily decide to invade allied countries and destroy our relationships with the rest of the world, it would obviously be Trump. On March 26 2025 00:36 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 25 2025 20:33 WombaT wrote:On March 25 2025 08:30 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 25 2025 07:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On March 25 2025 07:30 Luolis wrote:
Imagine being Hillary right now :D Obama and Clinton and Biden and Harris were right about everything Trump-related. Always have been, always will be. LibHorizons: Except for the most important things; being the right people/having the correct politics to beat him. Also Clinton's Pied Piper thing is a pretty big exception that also helped make Trump president. What is the charge of this Pied Piper thing? It seems to read much like the various campaigns were somewhat blindsided by Trump at every new hurdle he cleared, and thought he’d be a lock to beat in a Presidential. Which, to be fair, most of us were thinking at the time. “I admit to being suckered into every narrative that predicted Trump’s demise over and over,” said Connecticut Senator Chris Murphy, a Clinton ally. “I admittedly was a pretty consistent skeptic that they were ultimately going to nominate this buffoon, so I probably came to the realization that he was the nominee as late as anybody."
“I was in denial for a very long time,” added former Vermont Governor Howard Dean, the one-time presidential candidate and DNC chair. “I tell people I was wrong for 52 weeks in a row starting in June.”
That aside it seems a bit rich to simultaneously be digging up the failings of the 2016 campaign, and sidestepping awkward questions on 2024 with a ‘we have to move on folks, what are we doing now?’ I’ve no issues with either but be consistent on this at least. + Show Spoiler +LibHorizons: Hillary literally intentionally helped Trump become the nominee, and therefore, president. So to take Bush down, Clinton’s team drew up a plan to pump Trump up.
“... can serve as a cudgel to move the more established candidates further to the right. ...we don’t want to marginalize the more extreme candidates, but make them more ‘Pied Piper’ candidates who actually represent the mainstream of the Republican Party,” Republicans moving right under Trump's leadership was deliberately encouraged by Clinton and her campaign. Instead of making them easier to beat and Hillary Clinton president like she thought it would, it made Republicans more effective at stripping people of their rights with Democrats help. Hillary made possibly the biggest political mistake of our lives and it's quite the exception to always being right about Trump. It came up because of DPB's ahistorical Third Way bootlicking. It only emboldens Third Way dead enders in the fight for the future of the party that my fellow libs/Dems/ilk seem largely unwilling/incapable of engaging with at any length. LibHorizons: Case in point. You're all demonstrably far more interested in pointing/gawking at, and mocking the latest stupid things right wingers say/do, along with the rise of fascism, than discussing/doing anything meaningful about any of it. That's not an opinion, that's an observable/demonstrable fact. That's a choice you all make, and that's your prerogative. However, a major reason it matters is that those choices and the people that make them are among the top reasons (mostly Third Way) Democrats will continue to enable Trump until they are powerless to stop him, if that hasn't already happened. I'm desperately trying to see a way forward with/as Democrats, because it seems that making a viable run with a 3rd/workers' party is all but impossible in the US under these conditions. Unfortunately, all the libs/Dems/ilk that could be discussing how to do that, instead just mock and gawk right winger nonsense/rising fascism like political mean girls. You all are but a tiny offbeat sampling of the people that potentially stand between us and a fascist future, but even us here, in this moment have to get much more serious about how we're going to stop what is happening or we're all actually screwed. + Show Spoiler +
I don't know why you're so stuck on forcing me into your mold, but it's not really doing anything productive.
DPB? Trump? Greenland? Maybe not? Case in point! Typical libcuckbootlickerthirdfourthfifthwaydemonrat.
"You're all demonstrably far more interested in pointing/gawking at, and mocking the latest stupid things right wingers say/do, along with the rise of fascism, than discussing/doing anything meaningful about any of it." Okay, fine. How do you propose that you and I stop Trump from hypothetically invading Greenland? LibHorizons: I would put the nonsensical rhetoric about Greenland pretty low on the priority list. It's likely the sort of troll/distraction many of us have pointed out Trump is fond of doing to distract from the more devastating and problematic things he's actually doing/done and/or what we can do about it More generally we should be organizing resistance (The #Resistance from rank and file Democrat voters seemingly pretty nonexistent this time) around the plan I've been suggesting while refining and empowering it/us. RenSc2 put forward something I agree with. That we can/should target all the Democrats that enabled Trump with his budget while extracting nothing in return (even Pelosi criticized Schumer for this). Since many of them are retiring and/or not up for reelection until 2028 or later, I think one of the most immediate manifestations of this fight for the future of the party is pressuring Schumer out as leader. Probably with eyes on possibly replacing him in the Senate with AOC in 2028, if she isn't on the presidential ticket. I know GH is ready for a general strike every day, but I do think we're all going to have to figure out what Trump could do that would finally make us say we HAVE to stop what is happening IMMEDIATELY by grinding everything from schools, to transportation, to labs, to construction, to offices, to retail, to government itself to a halt until xyz demands are met. Several posters from other countries have mentioned their confusion/dismay at how disinterested Democrat voters/people generally in the US seem to be in the sort of mass protests we've seen in other countries to oppose their own governments doing this kind of stuff. I'm inclined to agree with their concern. While the Greenland thing is probably a red herring, Trump is already disappearing people, ignoring courts, and plans to keep doing increasingly more heinous things that he's not even trying to hide. But let's say he did invade Greenland, would that be enough for us to do a general strike? Or would we have to wait until Trump did something worse than invade a NATO ally to stop going about our lives as normal as we can?
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I'd like to bring up a different topic that people in the US should really worry about.
Apparently Trump is currently changing how elections work in the US. Your chances of getting another fair election are very quickly disappearing.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-executive-order-elections-voting-constitution-8908477167fd65dc9cd485e1fde5b804
(One source, i actually got if from German media though, this is just one of the first hits i found when googling)
This just seems to be drowned out in all the other horrific bullshit the administration is doing, but it seems like a very problematic thing. Trump is clearly trying to make sure that he doesn't get voted out a second time, or ever again. (Anyone who thinks that he will respect term limits is a complete fool imo)
Just another step away from democracy for the US.
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On March 28 2025 06:49 Simberto wrote:I'd like to bring up a different topic that people in the US should really worry about. Apparently Trump is currently changing how elections work in the US. Your chances of getting another fair election are very quickly disappearing. https://apnews.com/article/trump-executive-order-elections-voting-constitution-8908477167fd65dc9cd485e1fde5b804(One source, i actually got if from German media though, this is just one of the first hits i found when googling) This just seems to be drowned out in all the other horrific bullshit the administration is doing, but it seems like a very problematic thing. Trump is clearly trying to make sure that he doesn't get voted out a second time, or ever again. (Anyone who thinks that he will respect term limits is a complete fool imo) Just another step away from democracy for the US.
Yeah, the country is definitely going straight down the toilet real quick. I view actions like this as somewhat irrelevant because it seems extremely likely this is going to boil down to some kind of violent conflict. All the stuff with ignoring courts, expanding executive power, and empowering oligarchs has shown this show is pretty much over already. We now live in a fascist country and the current ruling power will not hand over power peacefully. The question is to what extent they will use this power and how citizens will be able to navigate it. Does it really turn into Nazi Germany? More similar to Russia? Hard to say.
Either way it feels a lot like a calm before the storm right now. Everyone can see what Trump and his team are vaguely aiming for. But its totally unknown if some spark will occur soon or much later. In the meantime, I'm playing all aspects of my life as safely as I can and making sure I have a working model of evacuation brewing.
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On March 28 2025 08:04 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2025 06:49 Simberto wrote:I'd like to bring up a different topic that people in the US should really worry about. Apparently Trump is currently changing how elections work in the US. Your chances of getting another fair election are very quickly disappearing. https://apnews.com/article/trump-executive-order-elections-voting-constitution-8908477167fd65dc9cd485e1fde5b804(One source, i actually got if from German media though, this is just one of the first hits i found when googling) This just seems to be drowned out in all the other horrific bullshit the administration is doing, but it seems like a very problematic thing. Trump is clearly trying to make sure that he doesn't get voted out a second time, or ever again. (Anyone who thinks that he will respect term limits is a complete fool imo) Just another step away from democracy for the US. Yeah, the country is definitely going straight down the toilet real quick. I view actions like this as somewhat irrelevant because it seems extremely likely this is going to boil down to some kind of violent conflict. All the stuff with ignoring courts, expanding executive power, and empowering oligarchs has shown this show is pretty much over already. We now live in a fascist country and the current ruling power will not hand over power peacefully. The question is to what extent they will use this power and how citizens will be able to navigate it. Does it really turn into Nazi Germany? More similar to Russia? Hard to say. Either way it feels a lot like a calm before the storm right now. Everyone can see what Trump and his team are vaguely aiming for. But its totally unknown if some spark will occur soon or much later. In the meantime, I'm playing all aspects of my life as safely as I can and making sure I have a working model of evacuation brewing.
I think your main advantage is their incompetence. Even Putin recognizes and employs experts, the current US admin is the world's first real kakistocracy where anyone remotely competent is sought to be replaced by someone that hasn't done the work needed to get good at what they're supposed to be doing.
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On March 28 2025 05:24 Dan HH wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2025 04:02 Vivax wrote:
Maybe there‘s potential around Greenland for offshore oil drilling or north pole sources of energy.
Don‘t see what it gives strategically. Maybe it‘s where he wants to build vaults fallout-style like they did in Norway.
Consuming less energy is too hard to achieve. But everyone else are parasites. The charts beg to differ. You're way overthinking it. It makes the US occupy more space on the map, that's the main reason. That's how the nationalist brain works, all the European ones decorate their offices with a map of the largest extent their country has been at in history. And being the guy that expanded it is their holy grail.
There's a reason he keep a map of the renamed Gulf of Mexico next to the desk in the oval office.
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On March 28 2025 06:49 Simberto wrote:I'd like to bring up a different topic that people in the US should really worry about. Apparently Trump is currently changing how elections work in the US. Your chances of getting another fair election are very quickly disappearing. https://apnews.com/article/trump-executive-order-elections-voting-constitution-8908477167fd65dc9cd485e1fde5b804(One source, i actually got if from German media though, this is just one of the first hits i found when googling) This just seems to be drowned out in all the other horrific bullshit the administration is doing, but it seems like a very problematic thing. Trump is clearly trying to make sure that he doesn't get voted out a second time, or ever again. (Anyone who thinks that he will respect term limits is a complete fool imo) Just another step away from democracy for the US.
It would be crazy if this was a thing that people said would happen.
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[QUOTE]On March 26 2025 14:39 GreenHorizons wrote:
[QUOTE]On March 26 2025 13:53 Sermokala wrote:
My brother in Christ you are creating alternate personas because you yourself cannot move beyond your personal preccadillos with us to engage with us honestly.
+ Show Spoiler +
Do you think we're dumb enough to think that libhorizons is a real person? Its not even a real effort to engage from a different viewpoint you're still trying to maintain your moral high ground over everyone else.
We get it, you think you're better then us, you think nothing we do is effective and we should just be lineing up behind you. The dance was old years ago and just got worse when you started calling us genocide supporters. You trying to get past that by cosplaying "hello fellow genocide supporters" without changing any part of what you're saying or how you're saying that isn't working and isn't going to work in the future.
You can keep this up as long as you want to and we will support you if this is what you need to get through the day but for your sake please get better and learn to treat others as human beings worthy of your respect.
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On March 28 2025 11:25 Sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2025 06:49 Simberto wrote:I'd like to bring up a different topic that people in the US should really worry about. Apparently Trump is currently changing how elections work in the US. Your chances of getting another fair election are very quickly disappearing. https://apnews.com/article/trump-executive-order-elections-voting-constitution-8908477167fd65dc9cd485e1fde5b804(One source, i actually got if from German media though, this is just one of the first hits i found when googling) This just seems to be drowned out in all the other horrific bullshit the administration is doing, but it seems like a very problematic thing. Trump is clearly trying to make sure that he doesn't get voted out a second time, or ever again. (Anyone who thinks that he will respect term limits is a complete fool imo) Just another step away from democracy for the US. It would be crazy if this was a thing that people said would happen.
Sarcasm doesn't usually translate well over the internet but that was thick enough that even I get it. Agreed that it was heavily warned about. Republicans has been losing the popular vote in most elections for a long time, since they don't want to change policy then changing the voting system follows logically. (It already heavily favors them.)
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On March 28 2025 11:34 Sermokala wrote:
We get it, you think you're better then us, you think nothing we do is effective and we should just be lineing up behind you. The dance was old years ago and just got worse when you started calling us genocide supporters. You trying to get past that by cosplaying "hello fellow genocide supporters" without changing any part of what you're saying or how you're saying that isn't working and isn't going to work in the future.
You can keep this up as long as you want to and we will support you if this is what you need to get through the day but for your sake please get better and learn to treat others as human beings worthy of your respect.
You of all people complaining about this is just perfect
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On March 28 2025 04:52 decafchicken wrote:
You're talking about a guy who used the white house for a car commercial. He is completely liable to take Greenland by force.
I haven't seen two less connected sentences. This is like a world record non sequitur. He liked a car so he's going to invade a treaty ally.
On March 28 2025 05:39 Legan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2025 05:31 Simberto wrote:On March 28 2025 05:24 Dan HH wrote:On March 28 2025 04:02 Vivax wrote:
Maybe there‘s potential around Greenland for offshore oil drilling or north pole sources of energy.
Don‘t see what it gives strategically. Maybe it‘s where he wants to build vaults fallout-style like they did in Norway.
Consuming less energy is too hard to achieve. But everyone else are parasites. The charts beg to differ. You're way overthinking it. It makes the US occupy more space on the map, that's the main reason. That's how the nationalist brain works, all the European ones decorate their offices with a map of the largest extent their country has been at in history. And being the guy that expanded it is their holy grail. Ah, the Europa Universalis school of political thought. If Trump was much younger, I'm sure video games would be blamed for his views on how world politics work. He is just spamming Denmark to trade Greenland for nothing.
He's actually not a big fan of PvP although him spamming "Ask to Trade" on Denmark and Canada's characters is probably accurate.
On March 28 2025 06:49 Simberto wrote:I'd like to bring up a different topic that people in the US should really worry about. Apparently Trump is currently changing how elections work in the US. Your chances of getting another fair election are very quickly disappearing. https://apnews.com/article/trump-executive-order-elections-voting-constitution-8908477167fd65dc9cd485e1fde5b804(One source, i actually got if from German media though, this is just one of the first hits i found when googling) This just seems to be drowned out in all the other horrific bullshit the administration is doing, but it seems like a very problematic thing. Trump is clearly trying to make sure that he doesn't get voted out a second time, or ever again. (Anyone who thinks that he will respect term limits is a complete fool imo) Just another step away from democracy for the US.
Which of these stood out to you the most of all the horrific bullshit:
1) Only counting votes that are cast and received by election day (What's German's policy, by the way)
2) Only having citizens vote in federal elections
3) Not having foreign nationals make financial political contributions
4) Prosecuting voter fraud and election crimes, and having secure election systems
5) Preventing noncitizens from participating in the administration of US elections
Or is there something even worse in the EO I missed?
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On March 28 2025 22:58 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2025 04:52 decafchicken wrote:
You're talking about a guy who used the white house for a car commercial. He is completely liable to take Greenland by force. I haven't seen two less connected sentences. This is like a world record non sequitur. He liked a car so he's going to invade a treaty ally. Show nested quote +On March 28 2025 05:39 Legan wrote:On March 28 2025 05:31 Simberto wrote:On March 28 2025 05:24 Dan HH wrote:On March 28 2025 04:02 Vivax wrote:
Maybe there‘s potential around Greenland for offshore oil drilling or north pole sources of energy.
Don‘t see what it gives strategically. Maybe it‘s where he wants to build vaults fallout-style like they did in Norway.
Consuming less energy is too hard to achieve. But everyone else are parasites. The charts beg to differ. You're way overthinking it. It makes the US occupy more space on the map, that's the main reason. That's how the nationalist brain works, all the European ones decorate their offices with a map of the largest extent their country has been at in history. And being the guy that expanded it is their holy grail. Ah, the Europa Universalis school of political thought. If Trump was much younger, I'm sure video games would be blamed for his views on how world politics work. He is just spamming Denmark to trade Greenland for nothing. He's actually not a big fan of PvP although him spamming "Ask to Trade" on Denmark and Canada's characters is probably accurate. Show nested quote +On March 28 2025 06:49 Simberto wrote:I'd like to bring up a different topic that people in the US should really worry about. Apparently Trump is currently changing how elections work in the US. Your chances of getting another fair election are very quickly disappearing. https://apnews.com/article/trump-executive-order-elections-voting-constitution-8908477167fd65dc9cd485e1fde5b804(One source, i actually got if from German media though, this is just one of the first hits i found when googling) This just seems to be drowned out in all the other horrific bullshit the administration is doing, but it seems like a very problematic thing. Trump is clearly trying to make sure that he doesn't get voted out a second time, or ever again. (Anyone who thinks that he will respect term limits is a complete fool imo) Just another step away from democracy for the US. Which of these stood out to you the most of all the horrific bullshit: 1) Only counting votes that are cast and received by election day (What's German's policy, by the way) 2) Only having citizens vote in federal elections 3) Not having foreign nationals make financial political contributions 4) Prosecuting voter fraud and election crimes, and having secure election systems 5) Preventing noncitizens from participating in the administration of US elections Or is there something even worse in the EO I missed?
Due to previous experiences, i no longer interact with you.
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On March 28 2025 22:58 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2025 04:52 decafchicken wrote:
You're talking about a guy who used the white house for a car commercial. He is completely liable to take Greenland by force. I haven't seen two less connected sentences. This is like a world record non sequitur. He liked a car so he's going to invade a treaty ally. Show nested quote +On March 28 2025 05:39 Legan wrote:On March 28 2025 05:31 Simberto wrote:On March 28 2025 05:24 Dan HH wrote:On March 28 2025 04:02 Vivax wrote:
Maybe there‘s potential around Greenland for offshore oil drilling or north pole sources of energy.
Don‘t see what it gives strategically. Maybe it‘s where he wants to build vaults fallout-style like they did in Norway.
Consuming less energy is too hard to achieve. But everyone else are parasites. The charts beg to differ. You're way overthinking it. It makes the US occupy more space on the map, that's the main reason. That's how the nationalist brain works, all the European ones decorate their offices with a map of the largest extent their country has been at in history. And being the guy that expanded it is their holy grail. Ah, the Europa Universalis school of political thought. If Trump was much younger, I'm sure video games would be blamed for his views on how world politics work. He is just spamming Denmark to trade Greenland for nothing. He's actually not a big fan of PvP although him spamming "Ask to Trade" on Denmark and Canada's characters is probably accurate. Show nested quote +On March 28 2025 06:49 Simberto wrote:I'd like to bring up a different topic that people in the US should really worry about. Apparently Trump is currently changing how elections work in the US. Your chances of getting another fair election are very quickly disappearing. https://apnews.com/article/trump-executive-order-elections-voting-constitution-8908477167fd65dc9cd485e1fde5b804(One source, i actually got if from German media though, this is just one of the first hits i found when googling) This just seems to be drowned out in all the other horrific bullshit the administration is doing, but it seems like a very problematic thing. Trump is clearly trying to make sure that he doesn't get voted out a second time, or ever again. (Anyone who thinks that he will respect term limits is a complete fool imo) Just another step away from democracy for the US. Which of these stood out to you the most of all the horrific bullshit: 1) Only counting votes that are cast and received by election day (What's German's policy, by the way) 2) Only having citizens vote in federal elections 3) Not having foreign nationals make financial political contributions 4) Prosecuting voter fraud and election crimes, and having secure election systems 5) Preventing noncitizens from participating in the administration of US elections Or is there something even worse in the EO I missed?
1 requires an ironclad belief in the reliability of the postal service to function. Now Germany is ranked among the very best in world, where is the US postal service in reliability to deliver mail by the next day?
2) please show where this is currently a problem
3) Does President Musk know this is a deal breaker?
4) please show where this is currently a problem
5) please show where this is currently a problem, and again, does President Musk know this is a deal breaker?
We've had this song and dance a dozen times already so don't expect much further interaction on this. There is no wide spread election fraud, every time some small fraud is found it turns out to be Republicans. They are only doing this as a means to supress voters not secure the election.
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On March 28 2025 22:58 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2025 04:52 decafchicken wrote:
You're talking about a guy who used the white house for a car commercial. He is completely liable to take Greenland by force. I haven't seen two less connected sentences. This is like a world record non sequitur. He liked a car so he's going to invade a treaty ally. Show nested quote +On March 28 2025 05:39 Legan wrote:On March 28 2025 05:31 Simberto wrote:On March 28 2025 05:24 Dan HH wrote:On March 28 2025 04:02 Vivax wrote:
Maybe there‘s potential around Greenland for offshore oil drilling or north pole sources of energy.
Don‘t see what it gives strategically. Maybe it‘s where he wants to build vaults fallout-style like they did in Norway.
Consuming less energy is too hard to achieve. But everyone else are parasites. The charts beg to differ. You're way overthinking it. It makes the US occupy more space on the map, that's the main reason. That's how the nationalist brain works, all the European ones decorate their offices with a map of the largest extent their country has been at in history. And being the guy that expanded it is their holy grail. Ah, the Europa Universalis school of political thought. If Trump was much younger, I'm sure video games would be blamed for his views on how world politics work. He is just spamming Denmark to trade Greenland for nothing. He's actually not a big fan of PvP although him spamming "Ask to Trade" on Denmark and Canada's characters is probably accurate. Show nested quote +On March 28 2025 06:49 Simberto wrote:I'd like to bring up a different topic that people in the US should really worry about. Apparently Trump is currently changing how elections work in the US. Your chances of getting another fair election are very quickly disappearing. https://apnews.com/article/trump-executive-order-elections-voting-constitution-8908477167fd65dc9cd485e1fde5b804(One source, i actually got if from German media though, this is just one of the first hits i found when googling) This just seems to be drowned out in all the other horrific bullshit the administration is doing, but it seems like a very problematic thing. Trump is clearly trying to make sure that he doesn't get voted out a second time, or ever again. (Anyone who thinks that he will respect term limits is a complete fool imo) Just another step away from democracy for the US. Which of these stood out to you the most of all the horrific bullshit: 1) Only counting votes that are cast and received by election day (What's German's policy, by the way) 2) Only having citizens vote in federal elections 3) Not having foreign nationals make financial political contributions 4) Prosecuting voter fraud and election crimes, and having secure election systems 5) Preventing noncitizens from participating in the administration of US elections Or is there something even worse in the EO I missed?
The whole shebang is predicated on this continued (likely deliberately cultivated) misconception that voter fraud is some rampant phenomenon.
It’s not the first time a president has issued an election-related executive order. In 2021, former President Joe Biden issued one directing federal agencies to take steps to promote voting access — earning him criticism from Republicans who argued it was unconstitutional and exceeded his authority. Trump rescinded that order earlier this year.
Why rescind that order which was pretty modest and to my eyes pretty reasonable? Could have left that in place while doing the reforms you want.
If you wanna tighten things in one respect, sure but I think people are quite rightly skeptical about what’s being done, and why.
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On March 28 2025 22:58 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2025 04:52 decafchicken wrote:
You're talking about a guy who used the white house for a car commercial. He is completely liable to take Greenland by force. I haven't seen two less connected sentences. This is like a world record non sequitur. He liked a car so he's going to invade a treaty ally. + Show Spoiler +On March 28 2025 05:39 Legan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2025 05:31 Simberto wrote:On March 28 2025 05:24 Dan HH wrote:On March 28 2025 04:02 Vivax wrote:
Maybe there‘s potential around Greenland for offshore oil drilling or north pole sources of energy.
Don‘t see what it gives strategically. Maybe it‘s where he wants to build vaults fallout-style like they did in Norway.
Consuming less energy is too hard to achieve. But everyone else are parasites. The charts beg to differ. You're way overthinking it. It makes the US occupy more space on the map, that's the main reason. That's how the nationalist brain works, all the European ones decorate their offices with a map of the largest extent their country has been at in history. And being the guy that expanded it is their holy grail. Ah, the Europa Universalis school of political thought. If Trump was much younger, I'm sure video games would be blamed for his views on how world politics work. He is just spamming Denmark to trade Greenland for nothing. He's actually not a big fan of PvP although him spamming "Ask to Trade" on Denmark and Canada's characters is probably accurate. On March 28 2025 06:49 Simberto wrote:I'd like to bring up a different topic that people in the US should really worry about. Apparently Trump is currently changing how elections work in the US. Your chances of getting another fair election are very quickly disappearing. https://apnews.com/article/trump-executive-order-elections-voting-constitution-8908477167fd65dc9cd485e1fde5b804(One source, i actually got if from German media though, this is just one of the first hits i found when googling) This just seems to be drowned out in all the other horrific bullshit the administration is doing, but it seems like a very problematic thing. Trump is clearly trying to make sure that he doesn't get voted out a second time, or ever again. (Anyone who thinks that he will respect term limits is a complete fool imo) Just another step away from democracy for the US. Which of these stood out to you the most of all the horrific bullshit: 1) Only counting votes that are cast and received by election day (What's German's policy, by the way) 2) Only having citizens vote in federal elections 3) Not having foreign nationals make financial political contributions 4) Prosecuting voter fraud and election crimes, and having secure election systems 5) Preventing noncitizens from participating in the administration of US elections Or is there something even worse in the EO I missed?
ThirdHorizons: Wait a minute... How have you gone this long without ever seeing Trump speak?
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On March 28 2025 23:37 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2025 22:58 oBlade wrote:On March 28 2025 04:52 decafchicken wrote:
You're talking about a guy who used the white house for a car commercial. He is completely liable to take Greenland by force. I haven't seen two less connected sentences. This is like a world record non sequitur. He liked a car so he's going to invade a treaty ally. + Show Spoiler +On March 28 2025 05:39 Legan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2025 05:31 Simberto wrote:On March 28 2025 05:24 Dan HH wrote:On March 28 2025 04:02 Vivax wrote:
Maybe there‘s potential around Greenland for offshore oil drilling or north pole sources of energy.
Don‘t see what it gives strategically. Maybe it‘s where he wants to build vaults fallout-style like they did in Norway.
Consuming less energy is too hard to achieve. But everyone else are parasites. The charts beg to differ. You're way overthinking it. It makes the US occupy more space on the map, that's the main reason. That's how the nationalist brain works, all the European ones decorate their offices with a map of the largest extent their country has been at in history. And being the guy that expanded it is their holy grail. Ah, the Europa Universalis school of political thought. If Trump was much younger, I'm sure video games would be blamed for his views on how world politics work. He is just spamming Denmark to trade Greenland for nothing. He's actually not a big fan of PvP although him spamming "Ask to Trade" on Denmark and Canada's characters is probably accurate. On March 28 2025 06:49 Simberto wrote:I'd like to bring up a different topic that people in the US should really worry about. Apparently Trump is currently changing how elections work in the US. Your chances of getting another fair election are very quickly disappearing. https://apnews.com/article/trump-executive-order-elections-voting-constitution-8908477167fd65dc9cd485e1fde5b804(One source, i actually got if from German media though, this is just one of the first hits i found when googling) This just seems to be drowned out in all the other horrific bullshit the administration is doing, but it seems like a very problematic thing. Trump is clearly trying to make sure that he doesn't get voted out a second time, or ever again. (Anyone who thinks that he will respect term limits is a complete fool imo) Just another step away from democracy for the US. Which of these stood out to you the most of all the horrific bullshit: 1) Only counting votes that are cast and received by election day (What's German's policy, by the way) 2) Only having citizens vote in federal elections 3) Not having foreign nationals make financial political contributions 4) Prosecuting voter fraud and election crimes, and having secure election systems 5) Preventing noncitizens from participating in the administration of US elections Or is there something even worse in the EO I missed? ThirdHorizons: Wait a minute... How have you gone this long without ever seeing Trump speak?
Just trying to get your personas straight: GH and LH are really upset with anyone getting baited by our resident troll, but 3H is a-okay and jumping on board the fun train of shitposting?
At least nobody can accuse you of hipocrisy, because it wasn't really *you* shitposting, was it?
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On March 28 2025 23:55 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2025 23:37 GreenHorizons wrote:On March 28 2025 22:58 oBlade wrote:On March 28 2025 04:52 decafchicken wrote:
You're talking about a guy who used the white house for a car commercial. He is completely liable to take Greenland by force. I haven't seen two less connected sentences. This is like a world record non sequitur. He liked a car so he's going to invade a treaty ally. + Show Spoiler +On March 28 2025 05:39 Legan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2025 05:31 Simberto wrote:On March 28 2025 05:24 Dan HH wrote:On March 28 2025 04:02 Vivax wrote:
Maybe there‘s potential around Greenland for offshore oil drilling or north pole sources of energy.
Don‘t see what it gives strategically. Maybe it‘s where he wants to build vaults fallout-style like they did in Norway.
Consuming less energy is too hard to achieve. But everyone else are parasites. The charts beg to differ. You're way overthinking it. It makes the US occupy more space on the map, that's the main reason. That's how the nationalist brain works, all the European ones decorate their offices with a map of the largest extent their country has been at in history. And being the guy that expanded it is their holy grail. Ah, the Europa Universalis school of political thought. If Trump was much younger, I'm sure video games would be blamed for his views on how world politics work. He is just spamming Denmark to trade Greenland for nothing. He's actually not a big fan of PvP although him spamming "Ask to Trade" on Denmark and Canada's characters is probably accurate. On March 28 2025 06:49 Simberto wrote:I'd like to bring up a different topic that people in the US should really worry about. Apparently Trump is currently changing how elections work in the US. Your chances of getting another fair election are very quickly disappearing. https://apnews.com/article/trump-executive-order-elections-voting-constitution-8908477167fd65dc9cd485e1fde5b804(One source, i actually got if from German media though, this is just one of the first hits i found when googling) This just seems to be drowned out in all the other horrific bullshit the administration is doing, but it seems like a very problematic thing. Trump is clearly trying to make sure that he doesn't get voted out a second time, or ever again. (Anyone who thinks that he will respect term limits is a complete fool imo) Just another step away from democracy for the US. Which of these stood out to you the most of all the horrific bullshit: 1) Only counting votes that are cast and received by election day (What's German's policy, by the way) 2) Only having citizens vote in federal elections 3) Not having foreign nationals make financial political contributions 4) Prosecuting voter fraud and election crimes, and having secure election systems 5) Preventing noncitizens from participating in the administration of US elections Or is there something even worse in the EO I missed? ThirdHorizons: Wait a minute... How have you gone this long without ever seeing Trump speak? Just trying to get your personas straight: GH and LH are really upset with anyone getting baited by our resident troll, but 3H is a-okay and jumping on board the fun train of shitposting? At least nobody can accuse you of hipocrisy, because it wasn't really *you* shitposting, was it? ThirdHorizons: Why wouldn't I be?
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