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Shingi11
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On September 12 2021 01:50 Shingi11 wrote: Funny that DeSantis is such a trump ass kisser that he cant run if trump wants to seek the nomination. Has to do what daddy tells him. Defying Trump is also a great way to essentially nose dive your entire political career. Desantis has no need to play his cards this soon. Basically everyone in the GOP's goal is to be Trump's crowned successor. Trump snorts McDonalds and is 75 years old. It is entirely conceivable he isn't able to run in 2024. And if he does, feels impossible that he would still be rocking in 2028. Desantis is *42*, which is actually quite young from the perspective of being a potential presidential candidate. If Desantis plays his cards right, he could get Trump's endorsement, which would be equivalent to being 100% crowned the winner of a national primary. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45458 Posts
On September 12 2021 04:00 Mohdoo wrote: Defying Trump is also a great way to essentially nose dive your entire political career. Desantis has no need to play his cards this soon. Basically everyone in the GOP's goal is to be Trump's crowned successor. Trump snorts McDonalds and is 75 years old. It is entirely conceivable he isn't able to run in 2024. And if he does, feels impossible that he would still be rocking in 2028. Desantis is *42*, which is actually quite young from the perspective of being a potential presidential candidate. If Desantis plays his cards right, he could get Trump's endorsement, which would be equivalent to being 100% crowned the winner of a national primary. I look forward to hearing which Democrats/minorities will be blamed for Trump's eventual failing health. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On September 12 2021 04:05 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I look forward to hearing which Democrats/minorities will be blamed for Trump's eventual failing health. Considering the wealth of information we have regarding intelligence agencies's ability to kill people in incredibly untraceable way, it is guaranteed there will be conspiracies when Trump dies. Many will assume he isn't actually dead. It will be a huge mess unless he dies live on television mid-interview. Even then, if he's being interviewed, it would be seen as further proof the media killed him. Or something. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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FlaShFTW
United States10360 Posts
Exit polls according to 538: Electorate similar to the 2018 election (+13 democrat) and COVID is #1 issue for most voters. Good metrics for a Newsom victory. | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32746 Posts
Next up is Virginia and New Jersey's gubernatorial races in November 2. Both tend to be states that elect governors opposite of the president in office, but with how blue NJ has become lately and how Virginia's shifted into a lean blue state, they might buck the tradition this year. Might be a good measure of how enthusiastic each party is going into the midterms, and if the suburban realignment is continuing or not. | ||
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Introvert
United States4923 Posts
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ChristianS
United States3304 Posts
Likelihood Elder ever concedes? Or is he going to swear up and down that he won if you subtract Newsom’s fake votes? | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45458 Posts
On September 15 2021 12:18 PhoenixVoid wrote: California's governor recall was a major flop for the recall advocates. Newsom holds his office quite comfortably from what I'm seeing, usually beating margins in 2018 or Democratic margins in 2020. Next up is Virginia and New Jersey's gubernatorial races in November 2. Both tend to be states that elect governors opposite of the president in office, but with how blue NJ has become lately and how Virginia's shifted into a lean blue state, they might buck the tradition this year. Might be a good measure of how enthusiastic each party is going into the midterms, and if the suburban realignment is continuing or not. In New Jersey, there's a pretty vocal minority still outspoken about the way our governor handled the very beginning of our pandemic, pointing to a high number of early deaths, etc. Murphy's Republican opponent, Ciattarelli, has a reasonable amount of traction - and there are still 2 months to go - but Murphy is still comfortably ahead. The anti-Murphy comments are often met with replies like "We don't love everything Murphy has done, but he's overall pretty decent and his opponent would be another Trump/DeSantis/Christie and we definitely don't want that". I definitely prefer Murphy. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On September 15 2021 14:24 ChristianS wrote: Larry Elder was a poor choice if the goal was to encourage CA Dems to move closer to conservative policy preferences. He’ll probably have a higher margin than he won by last time, meanwhile Elder makes CA conservatives look like maniacs who want to burn everything down. Likelihood Elder ever concedes? Or is he going to swear up and down that he won if you subtract Newsom’s fake votes? Considering Elder's campaign linked to a website up on Monday (the day before the vote) saying that Newsom won because of voter fraud (he was that confident in his loss), I think he's going to moan and groan for quite a while. | ||
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farvacola
United States18856 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45458 Posts
Illinois Becomes the First State to Require Media Literacy Classes for High School Students To encourage students to develop their research skills, the Prairie State is requiring classes that will teach teenagers how to discern facts from fiction. https://progressive.org/latest/illinois-first-state-media-literacy-albano-210831/ I think this has the capacity to do enormous good for our future generations, just like having Financial Literacy high school classes would. Of course, this also plays perfectly into the conservative narrative that education is liberal indoctrination and that all the teachers will say MSNBC is perfect and Fox News is always wrong, or whatever. | ||
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On September 16 2021 22:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Illinois will start requiring Media Literacy classes, with an emphasis on learning how to do proper research and assessing accuracy and bias from news sources, and in the least surprising statement of all time, the Republicans came out against this. https://progressive.org/latest/illinois-first-state-media-literacy-albano-210831/ I think this has the capacity to do enormous good for our future generations, just like having Financial Literacy high school classes would. Of course, this also plays perfectly into the conservative narrative that education is liberal indoctrination and that all the teachers will say MSNBC is perfect and Fox News is always wrong, or whatever. "Among them was state Representative Adam Niemerg, who told the media that the bill was “anti-Trump, anti-conservative” Appearently even GOP are willing to admit that learning proper research and critical thinking is anti-Trump and counter productive to the their party. I dont know if I should be shocked over his honesty or amused by him not realizing what he actually just said - I think I'll be both. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28784 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + The Norwegian framework for education, which is the tome of guidance for all Norwegian teachers in defining what we are supposed to teach the youth and children, (it actually specifically grants us quite a bit of autonomy so that's a bit exaggerated  ) specifies that there are three interdisciplinary topics (health and life skills, democracy and citizenship, sustainable development), six core values (human dignity, identity and cultural diversity, critical thinking and ethical awareness, the joy of creating, engagement and the urge to explore, respect for nature and environmental awareness, democracy and participation), and five basic skills (knowing to read, speak, write, do math, and digital skills). Digital skills, critical thinking, democracy and participation, life skills, democracy and citizenship, all of those 5 - of 14 total - have media literacy as a partial focus.At the high school I teach, we spent the first two weeks of the school year on an interdisciplinary project on democracy and citizenship. (Largely chosen as the first interdisciplinary topic because we just had elections in Norway.) It's a bit of a challenge to include it into every subject, but I know that one of our math teachers chose to spend this period on understanding graphs and statistics that could be relevant for understanding election related stuff.) It's hugely important, of course. Here's the funny thing tho which makes for a nice contrast to the US. Those interdisciplinary topics and the six core values were defined by a conservative government. (Which was just ousted in the aforementioned election! Hooray! Although while I am happy to change rulers, they were mostly a highly competent bunch, and I'm happy that even if we don't agree on how to make society better, we actually can agree on stuff like 'core values'. ) | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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