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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35094 Posts
On April 29 2021 03:44 Mohdoo wrote: I'm surprised Reddit and Spotify aren't cracking down more on anti-vax stuff. /r/conservative and /r/conspiracy are basically mirrors of each other and just post a bunch of anti-vax stuff. Then of course there is Joe Rogan saying people under 20 shouldn't get vaccinated. After how hard Youtube, FB etc cracked down on anti-vax, seems weird others aren't. Reddit generally doesn't need to crack down on anti-vax stuff, because the reddit community is generally aggressively anti-antivaxers. The problem comes with subreddits like you mentioned where they're set up as echo chambers intentionally. From there you get whatever stupid it breeds. Moderation on reddit tends to be voluntary, so trying to crack down on that without any real power will get you banned for wrong think. Hell, some subreddits will auto ban you for the first comment you post there if you've ever commented in "the wrong subreddits" - regardless of the content of your comments. For festering shit on reddit, the only way it's dealt with is if admins take care of it - and that usually takes media covering things that could get reddit sued. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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ZerOCoolSC2
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
On April 29 2021 11:05 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: WOW! They caught Ted Cruz sleeping on camera. Fucking shameful. I apologize on behalf of all Texans that we elected that fucker to the Senate | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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ZerOCoolSC2
8939 Posts
On April 29 2021 11:08 plasmidghost wrote: I apologize on behalf of all Texans that we elected that fucker to the Senate You can't apologize for the people who elected him and will do so again to keep Texas red. But man...not a good look. | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32737 Posts
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States22737 Posts
On April 29 2021 12:19 plasmidghost wrote: Honestly, if Congress can get Biden's plan passed, Dems will almost certainly get a blowout win in 2022, I think "His" plan won't get passed, most of the "major" pieces will more or less pass through reconciliation but things like increasing the IRS budget or social legislation for oppressed communities are likely to be seen as expendable/"inappropriate for reconciliation" (or some variation of that) imo. | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
On April 29 2021 13:18 GreenHorizons wrote: "His" plan won't get passed, most of the "major" pieces will more or less pass through reconciliation but things like increasing the IRS budget or social legislation for oppressed communities are likely to be seen as expendable/"inappropriate for reconciliation" (or some variation of that) imo. I hope for my sake that the Congress Dems doesn't abandon us to appease the GOP | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States22737 Posts
On April 29 2021 13:36 plasmidghost wrote: I hope for my sake that the Congress Dems doesn't abandon us to appease the GOP That's actually what happened with (oppressed groups &) The New Deal (and a public option with the ACA), which is one reason why I cringe when I hear people praise it uncritically. This time around I think they all know they aren't going to appease the GOP regardless, so whatever they abandon is to appease other Democrats. | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8366 Posts
if they keep the majority or even expand it in '22 the cards are being reshuffled again. I read the failed insurrection leader won't commit to announcing his run before the mid terms are over, he might not be so sure as well what happens there lol. such a whiny little bitch. | ||
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Artisreal
Germany9234 Posts
On April 29 2021 06:19 BlackJack wrote: Do you not know that this is already happening? These tech companies are already purging things they deem to be untruthful or offensive and the criticism from my friends is that they should be doing even more. They aren't even doing a good job at it because it's probably largely automated. A few weeks ago an interview between 2 chess youtubers that I follow on youtube was deleted because it contained words like "white" "black" "attack." Hilarious. I also find it kind of odd that "faith" would be on your panel to regulate truthfulness on the internet. My bad, I should have clarified, that I mean regulation that follows a specific law. That these giants rely on algorithms for moderation to save money is no suprise, hence it's not gonna be anywhere close to adequate - imo - unless we have independent oversight of the process. I very much agree with your assessment. And I would include faith in the US because religious hate is one of the problems we have in these times and the US sees itself as a religious country, thus I would be detached from reality if I were to exclude such a strong stakeholder. Of course there's lots of misguided faith - according to my personal view - out there, but making some concessions for acceptance of some religious leaders is a gamble I'm willing to take I think, to not have them rally against the "war on free speech". I mean, it's free speech, you wont go to prison for it, it might just get deleted and you're banned on a private plattform on the internet because you spread conspiracy therories that actively disrupt society and disregard the life of thers. And as long as it's not classified as a utility, nobody is entiteld to have an account on facebook or twitter. I wouldn't call it a truthfullness panel :D It's main goal should be the curbing of malicious incitement of hate, violence and pejudice. | ||
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Silvanel
Poland4692 Posts
On April 29 2021 11:08 plasmidghost wrote: I apologize on behalf of all Texans that we elected that fucker to the Senate If it is any consolation, both in EU parliment and our own Sejm some of the MPs are regularly sleeping. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10188 Posts
On April 29 2021 16:22 Artisreal wrote: My bad, I should have clarified, that I mean regulation that follows a specific law. That these giants rely on algorithms for moderation to save money is no suprise, hence it's not gonna be anywhere close to adequate - imo - unless we have independent oversight of the process. I very much agree with your assessment. And I would include faith in the US because religious hate is one of the problems we have in these times and the US sees itself as a religious country, thus I would be detached from reality if I were to exclude such a strong stakeholder. Of course there's lots of misguided faith - according to my personal view - out there, but making some concessions for acceptance of some religious leaders is a gamble I'm willing to take I think, to not have them rally against the "war on free speech". I mean, it's free speech, you wont go to prison for it, it might just get deleted and you're banned on a private plattform on the internet because you spread conspiracy therories that actively disrupt society and disregard the life of thers. And as long as it's not classified as a utility, nobody is entiteld to have an account on facebook or twitter. I wouldn't call it a truthfullness panel :D It's main goal should be the curbing of malicious incitement of hate, violence and pejudice. I think I'd rather have Zuckerberg police speech on the internet than the government lol | ||
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BlackJack
United States10188 Posts
On April 29 2021 10:19 NewSunshine wrote: Far Right discussion channels don't change the fact that you need to get vaccinated, and that it's dangerous to legitimize the opinion that one should not get vaccinated. It's a wrong opinion. Get vaccinated. Are you aware that the FDA and CDC paused the administration of the Johnson and Johnson vaccine? That does more to legitimize the opinion that one should not get vaccinated more than any right wing nut on reddit. I can't tell if your post is just a random pro-vaccine spiel or if you were commenting on the broader discussion of cracking down on anti-vax rhetoric on the internet. If it was the latter than I hope you can see the contradiction in saying people shouldn't be allowed to say you shouldn't take the covid vaccine when the government was just saying that you shouldn't take one of the covid vaccines. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9351 Posts
On April 29 2021 19:29 BlackJack wrote: Are you aware that the FDA and CDC paused the administration of the Johnson and Johnson vaccine? That does more to legitimize the opinion that one should not get vaccinated more than any right wing nut on reddit. I can't tell if your post is just a random pro-vaccine spiel or if you were commenting on the broader discussion of cracking down on anti-vax rhetoric on the internet. If it was the latter than I hope you can see the contradiction in saying people shouldn't be allowed to say you shouldn't take the covid vaccine when the government was just saying that you shouldn't take one of the covid vaccines. There is absolutely no contradiction there. The J&J vaccine was paused to examine some data, after which it was unpaused because its safe to take. That only does anything to legitimize the opinion that one shouldn't get vaccinated if one is a moron. It was about blood clots. It turns out you are more likely to die of a blood clot because you contracted covid, than you are from taking the vaccine. Anti-vax is no different to those preachers who tell their people not to take their cancer meds because God will fix it for them. Absolute scum, especially the ones making $ from their anti-vax lies. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10188 Posts
On April 29 2021 19:40 Jockmcplop wrote: There is absolutely no contradiction there. The J&J vaccine was paused to examine some data, after which it was unpaused because its safe to take. That only does anything to legitimize the opinion that one shouldn't get vaccinated if one is a moron. It was about blood clots. It turns out you are more likely to die of a blood clot because you contracted covid, than you are from taking the vaccine. Anti-vax is no different to those preachers who tell their people not to take their cancer meds because God will fix it for them. Absolute scum, especially the ones making $ from their anti-vax lies. Pausing is fundamentally the same as saying "don't take this vaccine" for an indefinite period of time. | ||
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