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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 09 2021 02:11 GMT
#59821
Twitter also banned Trump from the @POTUS account as well. Apparently he tried to get around the ban and posted from there before it was quickly deleted.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
January 09 2021 02:12 GMT
#59822
On January 09 2021 09:56 mierin wrote:
After all of this is said and done, I just hope the democratic party doesn't take this as a "well now we can nominate our most conservative candidates because they can't be worse than people like trump" situation. I know I'm being greedy but definitely foresee this as a consequence of this total republican party meltdown.

For example, universal health care...there are a lot of corporations lobbying against that. If Trump and his supporters are so awful, how about we support candidates that aren't as bad, but won't consider anything like UHC because they accept our donations?

Man, you're gonna hate this next guy we got coming in 12 days..
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
January 09 2021 02:15 GMT
#59823
Can't he just have Don Jr tweet things like 'My dad said that ....'
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Starlightsun
Profile Blog Joined June 2016
United States1405 Posts
January 09 2021 02:21 GMT
#59824
Or as the president of the united states he could do press conferences, issue statements etc. It's so ridiculous how reliant he is on twitter in the first place.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15723 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-09 02:24:27
January 09 2021 02:23 GMT
#59825
TD's Discord server has been wiped.

Reddit, Google, Facebook, Discord, Twitter, Twitch what else is next? I think TD loses its hosting pretty soon.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9005 Posts
January 09 2021 02:25 GMT
#59826
Snapchat as well.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43210 Posts
January 09 2021 02:27 GMT
#59827
On January 09 2021 11:21 Starlightsun wrote:
Or as the president of the united states he could do press conferences, issue statements etc. It's so ridiculous how reliant he is on twitter in the first place.

This is a fair point.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
January 09 2021 02:30 GMT
#59828
Anyone remember the Turkey coup and this post about it? I think we finally got "the same" in the US!

+ Show Spoiler +
Disclaimer, it is of course a parody account - but it was believable enough that no one realized that at first.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32743 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-09 02:51:45
January 09 2021 02:49 GMT
#59829
McConnell's laid out the Senate rules for an impeachment which seems all but inevitable. The memo says there must be unanimous consent from every senator to participate in an impeachment trial before January 19 (if I'm reading this correctly). Otherwise, the impeachment occurs during the first days of Biden's presidency and they'll be arguing to strip Trump of his Secret Service protection, his pension and right to hold office from what I'm reading outside of the memo. Schumer would be Senate Majority Leader by then, and it would probably tangle Biden down when he would love to get to work on passing the stimulus and moving for pandemic relief.

I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7384 Posts
January 09 2021 03:04 GMT
#59830
On January 09 2021 11:49 PhoenixVoid wrote:
McConnell's laid out the Senate rules for an impeachment which seems all but inevitable. The memo says there must be unanimous consent from every senator to participate in an impeachment trial before January 19 (if I'm reading this correctly). Otherwise, the impeachment occurs during the first days of Biden's presidency and they'll be arguing to strip Trump of his Secret Service protection, his pension and right to hold office from what I'm reading outside of the memo. Schumer would be Senate Majority Leader by then, and it would probably tangle Biden down when he would love to get to work on passing the stimulus and moving for pandemic relief.

https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1347722877521567747


So they're planning to punt it to Biden so they can try and make it a completely partisan thing and try and keep their Trump base?

Republicans are scumbags and even in one of the darkest hours in modern American history they're choosing to protect their own power over holding one of their own accountable from incitement of a literal coup. Christ.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
January 09 2021 03:12 GMT
#59831
They're deadly serious in adherence to their mantra. Party over country, victory at any cost. Turns out the deadly part is also literal.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15723 Posts
January 09 2021 03:36 GMT
#59832
I think they are over estimating trump without a platform or presidency. He will fade IMO
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-09 03:40:43
January 09 2021 03:39 GMT
#59833
These quislings can't handle being compared to Goebbels. Biden compared Hawley and Cruz to Goebbels in their persistence for keeping a big lie alive for a fascist, which, I have to say, is one of the most apt Godwins I've ever seen. They're now crying on twitter about it.

Yes Cruz, Biden's vicious rhetoric is the problem for calling you out. Not yours for getting several people killed and dozens wounded.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7384 Posts
January 09 2021 03:48 GMT
#59834
Wow, Biden has earned himself some esteem from me.

Lets let the Republicans talk about unity for once, frankly I want to see Democrats become aggressive and adversarial in their exertion of power much in the way that Republicans are.

Pin them as fascists, always, always, always frame them as fascist coup-inciters. Democrats should be on a non-stop offensive focusing almost exclusively on every Senator and every House GOP member that voted against certifying the election results. Never give Republicans the opportunity to frame things, always have them on the back foot. Turn the tables for once, and try and force some electoral gains out of this egregious display of party solidarity in support of proto-fascist insurrectionists.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-09 04:02:30
January 09 2021 04:01 GMT
#59835
Calling them proto-fascists is being nice. They're the real thing. Have been at least since the first crowd chanted "lock her up". This administration is going to look quite poor in the history books, and is already aging about as well as McDonald's fries.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9716 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-09 04:12:48
January 09 2021 04:11 GMT
#59836
Twitter, Facebook and Google are not good actors here. They are in a PR arms race.

These companies put Trump in charge by deliberately spreading heinously stupid conspiracy theory, allowing precious user information to find its way to the likes of Cambridge Analytica, and then supported his presidency and celebrated every single time he got them in the news with whatever he was posting on social media.

What's the point in just banning Trump when he's got thousands of supporters saying the same things right now this second on Twitter?

Okay i get its kinda necessary, but in all honesty they just want the kudos, and they should and could do much, much more.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9135 Posts
January 09 2021 04:15 GMT
#59837
On January 09 2021 10:43 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Now Google (With Apple setting a deadline as well) has removed Parler from the play store. So that is now a closed community if Trump and Co. decide to go there.

Two companies having near complete control on what the whole world consumes on their phones is fucked up though, we'll have to deal with this problem and its inherent extortion at some point.

m4ini
Profile Joined February 2014
4215 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-09 04:38:28
January 09 2021 04:27 GMT
#59838
Twitter, Facebook and Google are not good actors here. They are in a PR arms race.


And?

Who gives a shit? Someone doing good for the wrong reasons is still doing good. This absolute nonsense of "yeah but they're not meaning it" is so aggravating, equal to "he has 50 million, so why is he only donating 1 million, what an asshole".

In fact, they don't get much kudos either. Everywhere you look people are actually calling them out for not reacting sooner, so i don't see your point at all in the first place.

Two companies having near complete control on what the whole world consumes on their phones is fucked up though, we'll have to deal with this problem and its inherent extortion at some point.


They don't, though.

They have control over what apps you can download, information usually doesn't come from apps but from websites. I don't think i've ever used an app, ever, to consume news.
On track to MA1950A.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45025 Posts
January 09 2021 04:32 GMT
#59839
On January 09 2021 11:15 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Can't he just have Don Jr tweet things like 'My dad said that ....'


I would love to see Don Jr. (and anyone else) banned over this.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9716 Posts
January 09 2021 04:39 GMT
#59840
On January 09 2021 13:27 m4ini wrote:
Show nested quote +
Twitter, Facebook and Google are not good actors here. They are in a PR arms race.


And?

Who gives a shit? Someone doing good for the wrong reasons is still doing good. This absolute nonsense of "yeah but they're not meaning it" is so aggravating, equal to "he has 50 million, so why is he only donating 1 million".



This depends on the context doesn't it? It could be like saying 'he gave 1 million to rape victims but then he also spent the last year giving 49 million to defend rapists in court'


Twitter CREATED this problem, and the negative effects of that are going to last way longer than the positive effects of banning Trump now, and there's absolutely nothing stopping the same thing from happening again.



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