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On October 20 2020 11:02 NewSunshine wrote:
So, let me continue to try to get your shit straight. Trump supporters endlessly and blindly following him, despite his avalanche of illegal and otherwise highly immoral acts as president, no problems here. People suggesting the Hunter Biden story may just be a bunch of crap? "YoU mUsT hAvE lImItS". Trump and his crowd continually blaming everything wrong with the US on Mexico and China? Nothing to see here. Wondering if a story which no major outlet - even Fox - wants to run with might be a ploy by Russians, who absolutely would do and have done shit like this, suddenly liberals are collectively deranged.
You're lost, man. Get a grip.
Worst part is tweet quoting Glenn Greenwald in an attempt to continue to downplay Russian influence:
https://www.emptywheel.net/2020/10/18/steve-bannon-guccifer-2-0-glenn-greenwald-and-me-how-glenn-greenwald-defends-smear-artist-cowards/
Good read.
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I miss the good old days when Doodsmack used to post useful information and would openly bash Trump and his cronies. Times really have changed around here.
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On October 20 2020 11:16 Mazer wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2020 11:02 NewSunshine wrote:
So, let me continue to try to get your shit straight. Trump supporters endlessly and blindly following him, despite his avalanche of illegal and otherwise highly immoral acts as president, no problems here. People suggesting the Hunter Biden story may just be a bunch of crap? "YoU mUsT hAvE lImItS". Trump and his crowd continually blaming everything wrong with the US on Mexico and China? Nothing to see here. Wondering if a story which no major outlet - even Fox - wants to run with might be a ploy by Russians, who absolutely would do and have done shit like this, suddenly liberals are collectively deranged.
You're lost, man. Get a grip. Worst part is tweet quoting Glenn Greenwald in an attempt to continue to downplay Russian influence: https://www.emptywheel.net/2020/10/18/steve-bannon-guccifer-2-0-glenn-greenwald-and-me-how-glenn-greenwald-defends-smear-artist-cowards/Good read.
I found Glenn interesting for awhile about 10 years ago, but I guess in the same way that politicians will do anything to get re-elected, folks like Glenn will have to pander to different trends to stay relevant.
He was part of a fairly interesting panel at the Munk debates in Toronto which included, among others, one of the co-founders of Reddit (who sounded like a complete noob in comparison to the other presenters.) I seem to remember Snowden tunneling in to give a brief talk as well.
But I digress, please let's return to ... whatever this was.
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On October 20 2020 11:02 NewSunshine wrote:
So, let me continue to try to get your shit straight. Trump supporters endlessly and blindly following him, despite his avalanche of illegal and otherwise highly immoral acts as president, no problems here. People suggesting the Hunter Biden story may just be a bunch of crap? "YoU mUsT hAvE lImItS". Trump and his crowd continually blaming everything wrong with the US on Mexico and China? Nothing to see here. Wondering if a story which no major outlet - even Fox - wants to run with might be a ploy by Russians, who absolutely would do and have done shit like this, suddenly liberals are collectively deranged.
You're lost, man. Get a grip.
Doodsmack's new character is ratings.
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On October 20 2020 11:16 Mazer wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2020 11:02 NewSunshine wrote:
So, let me continue to try to get your shit straight. Trump supporters endlessly and blindly following him, despite his avalanche of illegal and otherwise highly immoral acts as president, no problems here. People suggesting the Hunter Biden story may just be a bunch of crap? "YoU mUsT hAvE lImItS". Trump and his crowd continually blaming everything wrong with the US on Mexico and China? Nothing to see here. Wondering if a story which no major outlet - even Fox - wants to run with might be a ploy by Russians, who absolutely would do and have done shit like this, suddenly liberals are collectively deranged.
You're lost, man. Get a grip. Worst part is tweet quoting Glenn Greenwald in an attempt to continue to downplay Russian influence: https://www.emptywheel.net/2020/10/18/steve-bannon-guccifer-2-0-glenn-greenwald-and-me-how-glenn-greenwald-defends-smear-artist-cowards/Good read.
Empty Wheel is a great source to be quoting. Basically the equivalent of Seth Abramson.
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On October 20 2020 11:02 NewSunshine wrote:
So, let me continue to try to get your shit straight. Trump supporters endlessly and blindly following him, despite his avalanche of illegal and otherwise highly immoral acts as president, no problems here. People suggesting the Hunter Biden story may just be a bunch of crap? "YoU mUsT hAvE lImItS". Trump and his crowd continually blaming everything wrong with the US on Mexico and China? Nothing to see here. Wondering if a story which no major outlet - even Fox - wants to run with might be a ploy by Russians, who absolutely would do and have done shit like this, suddenly liberals are collectively deranged.
You're lost, man. Get a grip.
The "whatabout Trump" argument doesn't actually counter what I said. And actually "collectively deranged" is a very good description. I left the derangement behind myself.
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I realize I don't actually contribute materially to this thread, so criticising it is not really fair, but this is what the last day or so of activity has felt like to me:
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On October 20 2020 11:34 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2020 11:02 NewSunshine wrote:
So, let me continue to try to get your shit straight. Trump supporters endlessly and blindly following him, despite his avalanche of illegal and otherwise highly immoral acts as president, no problems here. People suggesting the Hunter Biden story may just be a bunch of crap? "YoU mUsT hAvE lImItS". Trump and his crowd continually blaming everything wrong with the US on Mexico and China? Nothing to see here. Wondering if a story which no major outlet - even Fox - wants to run with might be a ploy by Russians, who absolutely would do and have done shit like this, suddenly liberals are collectively deranged.
You're lost, man. Get a grip. The "whatabout Trump" argument doesn't actually counter what I said. And actually "collectively deranged" is a very good description. I left the derangement behind myself.
"Whatabout Trump" isn't a valid answer to you, but "Whatabout Hunter Biden" is supposed to be legit? You remember how this started right?
But yeah, run away and call everyone deranged. Good shit bro.
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On October 20 2020 11:30 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2020 11:16 Mazer wrote:On October 20 2020 11:02 NewSunshine wrote:
So, let me continue to try to get your shit straight. Trump supporters endlessly and blindly following him, despite his avalanche of illegal and otherwise highly immoral acts as president, no problems here. People suggesting the Hunter Biden story may just be a bunch of crap? "YoU mUsT hAvE lImItS". Trump and his crowd continually blaming everything wrong with the US on Mexico and China? Nothing to see here. Wondering if a story which no major outlet - even Fox - wants to run with might be a ploy by Russians, who absolutely would do and have done shit like this, suddenly liberals are collectively deranged.
You're lost, man. Get a grip. Worst part is tweet quoting Glenn Greenwald in an attempt to continue to downplay Russian influence: https://www.emptywheel.net/2020/10/18/steve-bannon-guccifer-2-0-glenn-greenwald-and-me-how-glenn-greenwald-defends-smear-artist-cowards/Good read. Empty Wheel is a great source to be quoting. Basically the equivalent of Seth Abramson.
Yeah, says the guy quoting GG.
Point out the issues in that article and maybe I'll cede that. You won't.
If you don't like that one, here's another going over what we still haven't learned from the Mueller report that you and your kin gleefully cheer as a hoax:
https://www.lawfareblog.com/whats-new-unredacted-mueller-report
Try that one if you prefer. You seem to know a lot about Flynn et al, enlighten us.
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On October 20 2020 11:44 NewSunshine wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2020 11:34 Doodsmack wrote:On October 20 2020 11:02 NewSunshine wrote:
So, let me continue to try to get your shit straight. Trump supporters endlessly and blindly following him, despite his avalanche of illegal and otherwise highly immoral acts as president, no problems here. People suggesting the Hunter Biden story may just be a bunch of crap? "YoU mUsT hAvE lImItS". Trump and his crowd continually blaming everything wrong with the US on Mexico and China? Nothing to see here. Wondering if a story which no major outlet - even Fox - wants to run with might be a ploy by Russians, who absolutely would do and have done shit like this, suddenly liberals are collectively deranged.
You're lost, man. Get a grip. The "whatabout Trump" argument doesn't actually counter what I said. And actually "collectively deranged" is a very good description. I left the derangement behind myself. "Whatabout Trump" isn't a valid answer to you, but "Whatabout Hunter Biden" is supposed to be legit? You remember how this started right? But yeah, run away and call everyone deranged. Good shit bro.
It's not whatabout Hunter if money is flowing to Joe. Not that I should really bother repeating that the entire point is the money flowing in that direction. But I know, you'd rather believe in collusion than the documents.
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On October 20 2020 11:51 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2020 11:44 NewSunshine wrote:On October 20 2020 11:34 Doodsmack wrote:On October 20 2020 11:02 NewSunshine wrote:
So, let me continue to try to get your shit straight. Trump supporters endlessly and blindly following him, despite his avalanche of illegal and otherwise highly immoral acts as president, no problems here. People suggesting the Hunter Biden story may just be a bunch of crap? "YoU mUsT hAvE lImItS". Trump and his crowd continually blaming everything wrong with the US on Mexico and China? Nothing to see here. Wondering if a story which no major outlet - even Fox - wants to run with might be a ploy by Russians, who absolutely would do and have done shit like this, suddenly liberals are collectively deranged.
You're lost, man. Get a grip. The "whatabout Trump" argument doesn't actually counter what I said. And actually "collectively deranged" is a very good description. I left the derangement behind myself. "Whatabout Trump" isn't a valid answer to you, but "Whatabout Hunter Biden" is supposed to be legit? You remember how this started right? But yeah, run away and call everyone deranged. Good shit bro. It's not whatabout Hunter if money is flowing to Joe. Not that I should really bother repeating that the entire point is the money flowing in that direction. But I know, you'd rather believe in collusion than the documents.
I'm not talking about collusion? I literally never mentioned it. You set up a strawman to knock down, and you literally don't care who's actually talking to you, or what they're saying. What a joke.
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We're what, around a week after the story dropped, and Hunter Biden has not denied the authenticity of the emails and Joe Biden has only said that his official schedule did not include a meeting with Hunter's business pals. As far as campaigns go ... this is not the way you make this all out to be disinformation.
The spread of this story is the Streisand effect in action: If Twitter/Facebook hadn't taking steps to prevent sharing the article or limit its distribution, then who would believe that Hunter left a laptop in a repair shop and the hard drive made its way to Team Giuliani?
I miss the days when stories could be false without being assumed to be Russian disinformation campaigns. Biden's campaign director put the Russian disinfo allegations on his twitter.
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On October 20 2020 11:47 Mazer wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2020 11:30 Doodsmack wrote:On October 20 2020 11:16 Mazer wrote:On October 20 2020 11:02 NewSunshine wrote:
So, let me continue to try to get your shit straight. Trump supporters endlessly and blindly following him, despite his avalanche of illegal and otherwise highly immoral acts as president, no problems here. People suggesting the Hunter Biden story may just be a bunch of crap? "YoU mUsT hAvE lImItS". Trump and his crowd continually blaming everything wrong with the US on Mexico and China? Nothing to see here. Wondering if a story which no major outlet - even Fox - wants to run with might be a ploy by Russians, who absolutely would do and have done shit like this, suddenly liberals are collectively deranged.
You're lost, man. Get a grip. Worst part is tweet quoting Glenn Greenwald in an attempt to continue to downplay Russian influence: https://www.emptywheel.net/2020/10/18/steve-bannon-guccifer-2-0-glenn-greenwald-and-me-how-glenn-greenwald-defends-smear-artist-cowards/Good read. Empty Wheel is a great source to be quoting. Basically the equivalent of Seth Abramson. Yeah, says the guy quoting GG. Point out the issues in that article and maybe I'll cede that. You won't. If you don't like that one, here's another going over what we still haven't learned from the Mueller report that you and your kin gleefully cheer as a hoax: https://www.lawfareblog.com/whats-new-unredacted-mueller-reportTry that one if you prefer. You seem to know a lot about Flynn et al, enlighten us.
I got far enough in to the empty wheel article to see that he/she is defending the excommunication of maggie haberman for merely linking to the NYP story (talk about derangement). And he/she is dim enough to think that it was Maggie's tweet, more so than the viral reaction to Maggie's tweet, that actually drew attention to the NYP story. As for flynn I've posted plenty about his case. If you think the criminal and national security theories that were dreamt up against him for his (randomly surveilled) phone call were well founded, I've got a bridge for you.
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On October 20 2020 12:22 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2020 11:47 Mazer wrote:On October 20 2020 11:30 Doodsmack wrote:On October 20 2020 11:16 Mazer wrote:On October 20 2020 11:02 NewSunshine wrote:
So, let me continue to try to get your shit straight. Trump supporters endlessly and blindly following him, despite his avalanche of illegal and otherwise highly immoral acts as president, no problems here. People suggesting the Hunter Biden story may just be a bunch of crap? "YoU mUsT hAvE lImItS". Trump and his crowd continually blaming everything wrong with the US on Mexico and China? Nothing to see here. Wondering if a story which no major outlet - even Fox - wants to run with might be a ploy by Russians, who absolutely would do and have done shit like this, suddenly liberals are collectively deranged.
You're lost, man. Get a grip. Worst part is tweet quoting Glenn Greenwald in an attempt to continue to downplay Russian influence: https://www.emptywheel.net/2020/10/18/steve-bannon-guccifer-2-0-glenn-greenwald-and-me-how-glenn-greenwald-defends-smear-artist-cowards/Good read. Empty Wheel is a great source to be quoting. Basically the equivalent of Seth Abramson. Yeah, says the guy quoting GG. Point out the issues in that article and maybe I'll cede that. You won't. If you don't like that one, here's another going over what we still haven't learned from the Mueller report that you and your kin gleefully cheer as a hoax: https://www.lawfareblog.com/whats-new-unredacted-mueller-reportTry that one if you prefer. You seem to know a lot about Flynn et al, enlighten us. I got far enough in to the empty wheel article to see that he/she is defending the excommunication of maggie haberman for merely linking to the NYP story. And he/she is dim enough to think that it was Maggie's tweet, more so than the viral reaction to Maggie's tweet, that actually drew attention to the NYP story. As for flynn I've posted plenty about his case. If you think the criminal and national security theories that were dreamt up against him for his (randomly surveilled) phone call were well founded, I've got a bridge for you.
The NYP is a tabloid newspaper owned by Murdoch and MH is predominantly a self-serving journalist. That story has been amplified despite it being a complete load of bullshit and most respectable organizations know as much. That's why she's been called out (in her follow-up tweets, MH admits as much). Maybe think a bit more about how that 'viral reaction' came to fruition; why someone might push for such a reaction to this (and who).
Flynn's a scumbag and has admitted guilt multiple times. His lawyer is just a complete rat-fucker which is suitable given the rest of the people connected to Trump that have been found guilty by their peers.
Stop defending these crooks you hack.
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On October 20 2020 12:08 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2020 11:51 Doodsmack wrote:On October 20 2020 11:44 NewSunshine wrote:On October 20 2020 11:34 Doodsmack wrote:On October 20 2020 11:02 NewSunshine wrote:
So, let me continue to try to get your shit straight. Trump supporters endlessly and blindly following him, despite his avalanche of illegal and otherwise highly immoral acts as president, no problems here. People suggesting the Hunter Biden story may just be a bunch of crap? "YoU mUsT hAvE lImItS". Trump and his crowd continually blaming everything wrong with the US on Mexico and China? Nothing to see here. Wondering if a story which no major outlet - even Fox - wants to run with might be a ploy by Russians, who absolutely would do and have done shit like this, suddenly liberals are collectively deranged.
You're lost, man. Get a grip. The "whatabout Trump" argument doesn't actually counter what I said. And actually "collectively deranged" is a very good description. I left the derangement behind myself. "Whatabout Trump" isn't a valid answer to you, but "Whatabout Hunter Biden" is supposed to be legit? You remember how this started right? But yeah, run away and call everyone deranged. Good shit bro. It's not whatabout Hunter if money is flowing to Joe. Not that I should really bother repeating that the entire point is the money flowing in that direction. But I know, you'd rather believe in collusion than the documents. There are documents showing money is flowing to Joe Biden?
Careful, his whataboutism might actually be exposed as such if he had to justify his "I'm just asking questions" line of leading BS.
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On October 20 2020 11:34 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2020 11:02 NewSunshine wrote:
So, let me continue to try to get your shit straight. Trump supporters endlessly and blindly following him, despite his avalanche of illegal and otherwise highly immoral acts as president, no problems here. People suggesting the Hunter Biden story may just be a bunch of crap? "YoU mUsT hAvE lImItS". Trump and his crowd continually blaming everything wrong with the US on Mexico and China? Nothing to see here. Wondering if a story which no major outlet - even Fox - wants to run with might be a ploy by Russians, who absolutely would do and have done shit like this, suddenly liberals are collectively deranged.
You're lost, man. Get a grip. The "whatabout Trump" argument doesn't actually counter what I said. And actually "collectively deranged" is a very good description. I left the derangement behind myself.
If you flip your entire worldview upside down, claiming you were deranged to believe in whatever and something "opened your eyes" or "enlightened you", you either are one step away from insanity, joined a cult, or never actually spent a thought on your "new beliefs".
Your only contribution, quite literally, is "you can't disprove my claim to 100%, so my claim, despite all evidence to the contrary, has to be true". And make no mistake. You're not "cautioning" people, you're claiming it to be true.
If inconsistencies like the dates not adding up don't ring alarm bells, or you dismiss them by "well clearly they didn't publish the originals" (even though they partially did, and those don't add up either), then you simply shouldn't join a debate. All you're doing is exposing yourself as yet another zealot, blindly following the conspiracy theorists.
The very fact that you argue that Breitbart, in any shape or form, could be used as a proof for or against anything you said kinda shows how lost you actually are.
Let me remind you that Breitbart has a well documented track record of editing and cherry picking footage. Which of course is entirely unsurprising. Or the peddling of Pizzagate, which is such an insane story that i get a small aneurysm just remembering it. Or how about the claims of a "muslim mob of 1000 people" on new years eve in germany, setting fire to a church? Remember that? Remember also that the newspaper cited as a source by Breitbart vehemently protested because what Breitbart published was utter bullshit? Calling Lukas Podolski a migrant gang member? Claiming an illegal immigrant was arrested in connection with northern california wildfires?
How about their latest ploy, claiming that extensive voting fraud is real because in michigan, 800 dead people voted - leaving conveniently out the part where it made clear that they died after they cast their vote, and the ballots were rejected?
I'm sorry. Regardless of what your political alignment is, if you actually argue that sources like Breitbart, Infowars, or Occupy Democrats and natural news on the opposite of the spectrum are "proving" an argument, you really gotta wake up pal. The only thing that citing Breitbart (or any other fringe outlet) as a source does, is to warn people that you're not to be taken serious, because you're so far down the rabbit hole that by now you're probably reaching the core.
The NYP is a tabloid newspaper
How dare you, you communist pig. (/s)
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On October 20 2020 12:35 Mazer wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2020 12:22 Doodsmack wrote:On October 20 2020 11:47 Mazer wrote:On October 20 2020 11:30 Doodsmack wrote:On October 20 2020 11:16 Mazer wrote:On October 20 2020 11:02 NewSunshine wrote:
So, let me continue to try to get your shit straight. Trump supporters endlessly and blindly following him, despite his avalanche of illegal and otherwise highly immoral acts as president, no problems here. People suggesting the Hunter Biden story may just be a bunch of crap? "YoU mUsT hAvE lImItS". Trump and his crowd continually blaming everything wrong with the US on Mexico and China? Nothing to see here. Wondering if a story which no major outlet - even Fox - wants to run with might be a ploy by Russians, who absolutely would do and have done shit like this, suddenly liberals are collectively deranged.
You're lost, man. Get a grip. Worst part is tweet quoting Glenn Greenwald in an attempt to continue to downplay Russian influence: https://www.emptywheel.net/2020/10/18/steve-bannon-guccifer-2-0-glenn-greenwald-and-me-how-glenn-greenwald-defends-smear-artist-cowards/Good read. Empty Wheel is a great source to be quoting. Basically the equivalent of Seth Abramson. Yeah, says the guy quoting GG. Point out the issues in that article and maybe I'll cede that. You won't. If you don't like that one, here's another going over what we still haven't learned from the Mueller report that you and your kin gleefully cheer as a hoax: https://www.lawfareblog.com/whats-new-unredacted-mueller-reportTry that one if you prefer. You seem to know a lot about Flynn et al, enlighten us. I got far enough in to the empty wheel article to see that he/she is defending the excommunication of maggie haberman for merely linking to the NYP story. And he/she is dim enough to think that it was Maggie's tweet, more so than the viral reaction to Maggie's tweet, that actually drew attention to the NYP story. As for flynn I've posted plenty about his case. If you think the criminal and national security theories that were dreamt up against him for his (randomly surveilled) phone call were well founded, I've got a bridge for you. The NYP is a tabloid newspaper owned by Murdoch and MH is predominantly a self-serving journalist. That story has been amplified despite it being a complete load of bullshit and most respectable organizations know as much. That's why she's been called out (in her follow-up tweets, MH admits as much). Maybe think a bit more about how that 'viral reaction' came to fruition; why someone might push for such a reaction to this (and who). Flynn's a scumbag and has admitted guilt multiple times. His lawyer is just a complete rat-fucker which is suitable given the rest of the people connected to Trump that have been found guilty by their peers. Stop defending these crooks you hack.
I'd recommend checking your TDS. Maggie linked to the NYP article in a single tweet and resistance twitter lost its mind. Similar to how, in trumps town hall recently, there was a woman nodding her head in the background in agreement with trump - and the resistance lost its collective mind. Also the mueller team threatened flynns son so he cut a deal. That's actually a very simple matter.
You are only trying to criminalize your political opposition, because like many, you haven't gotten your TDS in check yet. I can only imagine what things will be like if trump wins again.
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