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Starlightsun
United States1405 Posts
On October 04 2020 13:04 WarSame wrote: Once again it was green screened though, which is really weirding me out! Also I'm interested in why they've invested in such a charade? Why can't they just say he's using "executive time" to watch Fox News? Because his vanity knows no bounds. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
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Shingi11
290 Posts
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Zooper31
United States5713 Posts
If they live, good, maybe they will change their tune and actually do something about this virus ravaging the country after experiencing it first hand. If they die, my sympathies, no one should perish from a preventable cause, but then we have a chance to fill their seats with people actually in tune with the country, who didn't grow up with Jim Crow laws. People who actually know how the current world works. | ||
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StasisField
United States1086 Posts
On October 04 2020 13:36 Zooper31 wrote: All the 70yr+ old members of congress getting Covid is the closest thing we will ever get to term limits imo. If they live, good, maybe they will change their tune and actually do something about this virus ravaging the country after experiencing it first hand. If they die, my sympathies, no one should perish from a preventable cause, but then we have a chance to fill their seats with people actually in tune with the country, who didn't grow up with Jim Crow laws. People who actually know how the current world works. I doubt they change their tunes. American politics is all about tribal thinking. You go with what the leader of your group decides, and unless Trump completely pivots on COVID-19 after recovering, the Republicans won't pivot. Anyone who does so indpendently will have the RNC funding their replacement. That's what happens to party outsiders who go too far in either party. | ||
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WarSame
Canada1950 Posts
On October 04 2020 13:19 Danglars wrote: The technology of green screen has no bounds, when the photo evidence that he flubbed a photo op matches the same background of the video with alleged green screen. What we really need is a poster alleging both a repeated green screen and a video deep fake of somebody not Trump to really get us going. Sorry, are you saying there's a photo op people have identified as providing the green screen background he's using? | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On October 04 2020 13:36 Zooper31 wrote: All the 65yr+ old members of congress getting Covid is the closest thing we will ever get to term limits imo. If they live, good, maybe they will change their tune and actually do something about this virus ravaging the country after experiencing it first hand. If they die, my sympathies, no one should perish from a preventable cause, but then we have a chance to fill their seats with people actually in tune with the country, who didn't grow up with Jim Crow laws. People who actually know how the current world works. Just support term limits for congressmen and senators. Oppose the people that say their tenure in government helps them better become experts and oppose lobbying by special interests. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5713 Posts
On October 04 2020 14:05 Danglars wrote: Just support term limits for congressmen and senators. Oppose the people that say their tenure in government helps them better become experts and oppose lobbying by special interests. Know how laws get passed? By the people who would be un-employed by imposing term limits. I'll continue to support term limits though, I just don't have faith people would willingly lose their job on purpose, who would? | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On October 04 2020 14:29 Zooper31 wrote: Know how laws get passed? By the people who would be un-employed by imposing term limits. I'll continue to support term limits though, I just don't have faith people would willingly lose their job on purpose, who would? Oh, this couldn't be done by an ordinary law. This would have to be done by constitutional amendment. Thankfully, the people about to be unable to run for re-election are not involved in every constitutional amendment process. | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19392 Posts
On October 04 2020 14:29 Zooper31 wrote: Know how laws get passed? By the people who would be un-employed by imposing term limits. I'll continue to support term limits though, I just don't have faith people would willingly lose their job on purpose, who would? There's only one way I would vote for Trump in this election. If he had the power to pass an executive order to create term limits for congress and promised to do that his first week in office. | ||
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Lmui
Canada6223 Posts
On October 04 2020 15:23 BisuDagger wrote: There's only one way I would vote for Trump in this election. If he had the power to pass an executive order to create term limits for congress and promised to do that his first week in office. I wouldn't trust a liar to do that. | ||
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StalkerTL
212 Posts
They forgot to wipe the metadata from the photos so its clear that they're just shuffling Trump around rooms so he can look like a big hard man. Big Soviet-era propaganda vibes. Do they wonder why we can't trust their word when they say Trump is totally OK? | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19392 Posts
It's a hypothetical situation where he follows through. Obviously we can poke a ton of holes in my statement. I'm just conveying how important term limits are to me. :D | ||
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r00ty
Germany1087 Posts
On October 04 2020 16:04 StalkerTL wrote: + Show Spoiler + And of course, the Whitehouse are amateurs with their photographs: https://twitter.com/jonostrower/status/1312616578773446656 They forgot to wipe the metadata from the photos so its clear that they're just shuffling Trump around rooms so he can look like a big hard man. Big Soviet-era propaganda vibes. Do they wonder why we can't trust their word when they say Trump is totally OK? He's putting his oversized signature on a blank piece of paper in the second picture. You don't even have to zoom. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22649 Posts
On October 04 2020 16:04 StalkerTL wrote: Did anyone actually think these were not photo ops done purely for PR? And of course, the Whitehouse are amateurs with their photographs: https://twitter.com/jonostrower/status/1312616578773446656 They forgot to wipe the metadata from the photos so its clear that they're just shuffling Trump around rooms so he can look like a big hard man. Big Soviet-era propaganda vibes. Do they wonder why we can't trust their word when they say Trump is totally OK? Even if he was actually doing work when you want photo's like this to put out you set them up to be the way you want them. It's not even an American thing, I would suspect any government that puts out a 'look how your leader is working for you' picture to not be shown him actually working. | ||
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Slydie
2013 Posts
On October 04 2020 18:39 Gorsameth wrote: Did anyone actually think these were not photo ops done purely for PR? Even if he was actually doing work when you want photo's like this to put out you set them up to be the way you want them. It's not even an American thing, I would suspect any government that puts out a 'look how your leader is working for you' picture to not be shown him actually working. The question is why they are trying to fake this in the first place. As mentioned, noone should work just after going to hospital with Covid-19. Just let him rest now and make him do a proper public appearance whenever he is ready. No reason to sugar-coat. | ||
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Simberto
Germany12023 Posts
On October 04 2020 18:39 Gorsameth wrote: Did anyone actually think these were not photo ops done purely for PR? Even if he was actually doing work when you want photo's like this to put out you set them up to be the way you want them. It's not even an American thing, I would suspect any government that puts out a 'look how your leader is working for you' picture to not be shown him actually working. Not only that, most of "people working" photos are set up in some way. "Hey, you guys inspect that thing over there", "Can you look as if you were building that wall?", "Do something sciency-looking". Because when media comes to take pictures of people, these people usually take some time to talk to the media and are thus not working on random other stuff at that point in time. And usually the photographer doesn't want to follow the people around for a day to wait for them to randomly do the thing they would like to photograph. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22649 Posts
On October 04 2020 19:12 Slydie wrote: Because being strong is his image? Ofcourse there is need to sugar-coat this, he spend the last 10 months pretending the virus doesn't exist and is harmlessThe question is why they are trying to fake this in the first place. As mentioned, noone should work just after going to hospital with Covid-19. Just let him rest now and make him do a proper public appearance whenever he is ready. No reason to sugar-coat. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
He did exactly this last month with Lake Charles hurricane first responders. | ||
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CuddlyCuteKitten
Sweden2893 Posts
On October 04 2020 18:39 Gorsameth wrote: Did anyone actually think these were not photo ops done purely for PR? Even if he was actually doing work when you want photo's like this to put out you set them up to be the way you want them. It's not even an American thing, I would suspect any government that puts out a 'look how your leader is working for you' picture to not be shown him actually working. +1 I have done a couple of "working" ops you always stage the actual picture regardless of if you are doing actual work at the time or not, which usually you are not. | ||
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