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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Belisarius
Australia6233 Posts
"See? It was just a flu. HCQ is tremendous!" "They said I had the worstest case of Chinavirus they'd ever seen. They said sir, I can't believe how healthy you had to be to survive this. Good thing Hillary isn't president, she would have died. What if Sleepy Joe gets it?" Probably both at once, actually. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11839 Posts
On October 02 2020 20:30 Slydie wrote: I can't see any good reason to lie about catching Covid. Trump was bragging shamelessly about a previous negative test, and I can't see how going in quarantine and showing "weakness" by testing positive can be beneficial for his campaign. I doubt he can get many pity votes. Maybe some evil plot about him magically recovering without any symptoms, but even that seems far fetched, and if he indeed gets sick, that theory goes out the window. There were never any good reasons for Trump lying, except to lie so much that people lose track of all the lies, and somehow then all the lies aren't a problem anymore. In a sane world, that wouldn't work. But somehow half the US has moved into a post-factual society where it inexplicably doesn't matter if something is true or not. Statistically, when Trump says something, it is more likely a lie than not. He doesn't need reasons for lying. And i can totally see him say something stupid like "look, i had covid, and i am fine, it really wasn't a problem, really nothing more than a flu" after lying about having it. His strategies don't make sense to sane people, and they shouldn't work. But somehow they do. A country shouldn't elect someone who is obviously constantly lying, absurdly incompetent, a boorish bully AND also corrupt. Yet here we are. American politics have removed themselves from making any sense whatsoever with Trumps election. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26799 Posts
On October 02 2020 20:55 Simberto wrote: There were never any good reasons for Trump lying, except to lie so much that people lose track of all the lies, and somehow then all the lies aren't a problem anymore. In a sane world, that wouldn't work. But somehow half the US has moved into a post-factual society where it inexplicably doesn't matter if something is true or not. Statistically, when Trump says something, it is more likely a lie than not. He doesn't need reasons for lying. And i can totally see him say something stupid like "look, i had covid, and i am fine, it really wasn't a problem, really nothing more than a flu" after lying about having it. His strategies don't make sense to sane people, and they shouldn't work. But somehow they do. A country shouldn't elect someone who is obviously constantly lying, absurdly incompetent, a boorish bully AND also corrupt. Yet here we are. American politics have removed themselves from making any sense whatsoever with Trumps election. Indeed. If he was well, Trump but ruthlessly competent I could see people tolerating it in a dirty cop ‘I don’t like his methods but damn he gets the job done’, but he is just terrible across many metrics | ||
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pmh
1416 Posts
On October 02 2020 20:08 JimmiC wrote: Assassinating with a hoax will be a first! Things I'm going to look out for is, how does this effect China, Trump has been putting on the full court blame China effort I can only see that intensifying. Does this slow down the court appointment? Unlikely but maybe it is a distraction Does he ask for extra time in regards to not only the election itself but also the debates? Or does Pence fill in? Is this the moment to save face and step aside? Perhaps witht he full blame on China and the "left". Is this the moment to save face and step aside? Perhaps witht he full blame on China and the "left". If he wanted out (or if the republican establishment wanted him out) then this would be a decent excuse i guess but it seems unlikely to me. Trump announcing he will withdraw because of health problems? it doesnt realy fit his character. I dont think its a hoax but this timing with 1 month to go. | ||
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iamthedave
England2814 Posts
On October 02 2020 21:05 pmh wrote: Is this the moment to save face and step aside? Perhaps witht he full blame on China and the "left". If he wanted out (or if the republican establishment wanted him out) then this would be a decent excuse i guess but it seems unlikely to me. Trump announcing he will withdraw because of health problems? it doesnt realy fit his character. I dont think its a hoax and i am not really surprised that he got the disease eventually but this timing with 1 month to go. Seeing how the disease typically progresses in man with his age and posture it could take weeks unless he has a mild variation. This year just keeps on getting crazier. Never in a billion years will Trump concede. The idea of losing probably never crosses his mind. | ||
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
I simply don't see him quarantined for 2 weeks. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8082 Posts
On October 02 2020 21:19 mahrgell wrote: When everyone here is wildly speculating how it continues, here is my expectation: They throw a test at him every hour until one says Corona negative. Then he proclaims he has easily beaten it,nothing to worry about, 2 days was all it took and continues his rallies and campaign. I simply don't see him quarantined for 2 weeks. That only works if he has a very mild case. But it's certainly a credible scenario. | ||
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farvacola
United States18857 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28797 Posts
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farvacola
United States18857 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
Being willing to lie about Trump's health seems to come before anything else for him in doctors. So, remember the notion that he is going to have the best medical care? A dr went on fox and friends and said the following : “Our president is constitutionally incredibly strong. He operates more like a 45-year-old than a 74-year-old in terms of his stamina,” “He has no underlying comorbidities. He will naturally resolve this quickly.” So I think she's just sent in her application for the job. She's a sleep specialist who does have a degree in pulmonology, so who knows? I'm sure he'll have good medical care, but I dispute that it'll be notably better than that of the average person in the US with insurance. Ahmed said that U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson was moved to intensive care for three days when he contracted the coronavirus in June. Noting that world leaders are treated differently from the average patient, Ahmed said “we must not panic” if Trump is moved to an area of higher monitoring: If Trump is moved to an “intensive care unit setting, [it] does not mean that Trump is critically ill,” she explained. The doctor said that “you can guarantee” the White House is considering administering the therapeutic drug remdesivir to the president, as well as convalescent plasma. “Even with mild symptoms?” Fox & Friends host Brian Kilmeade asked. “This is the president. The goal is to bring him to PCR negative as soon as possible,” Ahmed said, noting the importance of having a president who is not carrying a potentially deadly infection. After declaring that the president will overcome the virus quickly, Ahmed said therapeutics “can accelerate that. That will be the enormous focus on his advisors in terms of his position today.” The doctor argued that Trump’s medical advisers will seek to accelerate his quarantine, predicting it will last for ten days instead of the recommended 14. “He needs to be on the move,” she said. Ahmed told Fox & Friends that the virus has evolved since the start of the pandemic to be less deadly. “I’m extremely confident that the president will resolve this,” she said. “And in a few days, we’ll be talking about his PCR test coming back negative.” https://www.mediaite.com/tv/doctor-on-fox-news-says-trump-will-resolve-this-quickly-he-is-constitutionally-incredibly-strong/ | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22373 Posts
On October 02 2020 22:03 JimmiC wrote: pulling out because of health shows weakness, which is unacceptable for his narcissism. I disagree, I think he is extremely insecure and he could not handle losing. Pulling out because of "health" or deepstate, so something seems quite plausible to me. Him conceding in the traditional sense though I agree would never happen. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45937 Posts
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9847 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45937 Posts
On October 02 2020 22:32 Jockmcplop wrote: Meanwhile republicans are furious that rather than waking up at 4am to wish Trump well, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris had the nerve to be asleep last night. https://twitter.com/SteveGuest/status/1312005706820784129 I'd be more ticked off if Biden/Harris actually gave a sympathetic message to the Trumps without at least getting in a "The world told you so / are you taking this pandemic seriously now / go drink a bleach+HCQ cocktail" remark. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On October 02 2020 22:39 JimmiC wrote: In democrats defense they don't have the "thoughts and prayers" copy pasta loaded on word pad for just such a occasion. Also why would anyone be nice to Trump he has.already said how many over the line things with Biden, birtherism racist bullshit with Harris. What wacky world do they live in when they think they should kindly reach out? Can you imagine Trump if Biden got it? Sleepy Joe is weak, won't Make it until my Vaccine stops the chinese cold before the election. Better vote Trump I'm in just tremendous Shape, strongest, Healthiest president ever. They have said I'm far stronger than Obama, and Never forget Ben Gazi. Also hilarys emails are really bad and likely behind the job loss" Actually... Biden literally sent a tweet about thoughts and prayers. GOP Chair Ronna Romney McDaniel has also tested positive for COVID, according to NYT. We may see it spread like wildfire through GOP ranks based on how freely Trump and his associates traveled with them. https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10/02/us/trump-vs-biden#ronna-mcdaniel-chairwoman-of-the-rnc-tests-positive-for-the-coronavirus | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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