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Mohdoo
United States15723 Posts
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Zambrah
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pmh
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brian
United States9629 Posts
if they just stupidly tried to travel abroad while under investigation then i’d allow for enough stupidity to be silent and join manafort. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21952 Posts
The only question is if they have enough to incriminate others to be worth a plea deal. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
On October 11 2019 00:28 Mohdoo wrote: Giuliani associates arrested at the airport trying to flee the country. Barr was told last night they would be arrested. I can't help but suspect Barr indirectly tipped them off. I really want to know where they bought tickets to. Where were they headed where they felt safe and protected? Indictment: https://s.wsj.net/public/resources/documents/U.S.v.LevParnasetalIndictment.pdf NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/10/us/politics/lev-parnas-igor-fruman-arrested-giuliani.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage Austria oddly enough. I suspect that they simply took the first available flight to somewhere as close as possible to where they can simply be out of American reach. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50003330 | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26028 Posts
On October 11 2019 03:15 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote: Two Giuliani/Trump related men fleeing the country, on the day they were supposed to be questioned by the House impeachment investigators? Held on charges for campaign finance fraud? Looks like another episode of: very cool and very legal. I guess it's time to call Manafort in prison again to redefine strategy. At least the swamp has been drained. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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ZerOCoolSC2
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Mohdoo
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JimmiC
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Ben...
Canada3485 Posts
Several common Fox hosts/guests/analysts have been openly critical of Trump's handling of both this Turkey stuff and the impeachment stuff. Hannity himself even criticized Trump's Ukraine phone call and said it was unacceptable. Fox News didn't support Trump until after he won the nomination. It was only closer to the election that they went all-in on backing him and being explicitly pro-Trump. I could see there being a point where they go back to just backing the GOP but not Trump himself if things get ugly enough. | ||
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Lmui
Canada6215 Posts
It was just a braindead decision by Trump | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
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On October 11 2019 06:26 Ben... wrote: I've been wondering that too. Trump's support even among some of his biggest backers like the Evangelicals seems rather shaky right now. Pat Robertson recently openly criticized Trump's decision to abandon the Kurds on his show. Several common Fox hosts/guests/analysts have been openly critical of Trump's handling of both this Turkey stuff and the impeachment stuff. Hannity himself even criticized Trump's Ukraine phone call and said it was unacceptable. Fox News didn't support Trump until after he won the nomination. It was only closer to the election that they went all-in on backing him and being explicitly pro-Trump. I could see there being a point where they go back to just backing the GOP but not Trump himself if things get ugly enough. If this isn't ugly enough, I don't know how much uglier it can get. This would have sunk any other president. | ||
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Vivax
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Worked great so far. | ||
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Belisarius
Australia6233 Posts
But fox turning on him is very encouraging. There may actually be a limit out there somewhere. | ||
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kidleaderr
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On October 11 2019 03:37 Dangermousecatdog wrote: Austria oddly enough. I suspect that they simply took the first available flight to somewhere as close as possible to where they can simply be out of American reach. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50003330 Vienna to be exact. Which happens to be the home of Dmytri Firtash who is Lyovochkin's business partner, the guy that funneled money to Trumps inaugural in addition to receiving Trump polling data by Manafort. Obviously all just a coincidence, nothing to see here. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15723 Posts
On October 11 2019 06:29 Lmui wrote: The US is shitting away any chance of co-operation in the middle east. It's caused shitshows in Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria. Having the Kurds assist is the most politically sensible decision. It involves a group which is trusted by the local populace, shares the same values as the foreign power (US), and a common goal (fight ISIS). It's the cheapest investment to achieve power in the region.If this doesn't get reversed in the next few days, I'd expect the GOP to fully break with Trump on Syria. It was just a braindead decision by Trump I still firmly believe that if Democrats win in 2020, the world will be like: "So, that was fucked, but if you make systematic changes to make your system less volatile, we're cool", everyone will move on and clean up the pieces. Some damage can't be undone, but Trump is so unique that I don't think it is difficult for people to understand Warren/Biden/Sanders would immediately cancel tariffs and stuff like that. Trump is weird. No one else is. If we are able to show the world we learned from our mistakes, I really think we'll be welcomed back. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
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On October 11 2019 08:01 Mohdoo wrote: I still firmly believe that if Democrats win in 2020, the world will be like: "So, that was fucked, but if you make systematic changes to make your system less volatile, we're cool", everyone will move on and clean up the pieces. Some damage can't be undone, but Trump is so unique that I don't think it is difficult for people to understand Warren/Biden/Sanders would immediately cancel tariffs and stuff like that. Trump is weird. No one else is. If we are able to show the world we learned from our mistakes, I really think we'll be welcomed back. But have we? Or will we? I mean, c'mon. It's America. We'll apologize, fix some things, but at the end of the day, we'll elect another trumpian person that'll isolate us and we'll have to start all over again. | ||
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