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redlightdistrict
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Mohdoo
United States15465 Posts
On August 30 2019 01:57 redlightdistrict wrote: How did klobuchar make the third debate when gabbard didnt? Last i looked she was .5% behind gabbard but mabye that wasent an aggregate. All about which polls. Gabbard kind of a train wreck anyway, so her finally being put out to pasture is a good thing. On August 30 2019 00:14 GreenHorizons wrote: With Harris polling potentially 4th in California she's lucky to be considered for a VP slot at this point. Harris wins "biggest opportunity squandered" with Beto as a close 2nd. After body slamming Biden in the first debate, she made nothing of it. | ||
IyMoon
United States1249 Posts
On August 30 2019 03:58 Mohdoo wrote: All about which polls. Gabbard kind of a train wreck anyway, so her finally being put out to pasture is a good thing. Harris wins "biggest opportunity squandered" with Beto as a close 2nd. After body slamming Biden in the first debate, she made nothing of it. It's hard to make something of body slamming Biden when she got put in the ground in the next debate | ||
ZerOCoolSC2
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Buttigeig and Harris are a distant, distant, last choice for me. Gabbard rates higher than those two in my eyes. | ||
farvacola
United States18820 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28597 Posts
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ZerOCoolSC2
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15465 Posts
On August 30 2019 06:16 IgnE wrote: he’s a technocratic manager. if political exigency demands one, he is not the worst choice as a cabinet member or vp. i just think he’s more like bill clinton as a political leader than what the country needs. even if he doesn’t come w bill’s personal failings Can you elaborate on the bolded? | ||
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Falling
Canada11320 Posts
On August 30 2019 00:09 Mohdoo wrote: I would do anything to watch buttigieg body slam pence over and over about the bible in debates Like just saying how believing in the Bible is really bad? Because his actual interpretations thus far have demonstrated meme level understanding- if you are hoping for Mano a Mano on the bible. | ||
Mohdoo
United States15465 Posts
On August 30 2019 07:40 Falling wrote: Like just saying how believing in the Bible is really bad? Because his actual interpretations thus far have demonstrated meme level understanding- if you are hoping for Mano a Mano on the bible. Who are you saying has a meme level understanding of the bible? | ||
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Falling
Canada11320 Posts
Although I said "thus far demonstrated" not "has"- the distinction is important. Exactly which Republicans are running around saying God is smiling on kids in cages? It was a 'got 'em' moment in the debate, but the only place I can find anyone saying that sort of thing is Buttigieg. (Although, I guess in this particular example, he is using religion as a cudgel to knock a strawman.) | ||
Mohdoo
United States15465 Posts
On August 30 2019 08:36 Falling wrote: Buttigieg. Although I said "thus far demonstrated" not "has"- the distinction is important. Exactly which Republicans are running around saying God is smiling on kids in cages? It was a 'got 'em' moment in the debate, but the only place I can find anyone saying that sort of thing is Buttigieg. (Although, I guess in this particular example, he is using religion as a cudgel to knock a strawman.) Are you saying you think republican ideology is generally more in line with the teachings of Jesus than democrats? Or just pointing out that Buttigieg has not shown himself to be more knowledgeable than Pence? | ||
IgnE
United States7681 Posts
he attended Harvard and was interested in politics. he was a rhodes scholar, like someone else. went into the army, then worked as a consultant at mckinsey, then built his political career on a "let's just make it work" ethos. he seems very much like a "let's make the economy work" guy, but given his fairly conformist, non-radical background, that seems to be a "let's make it work within the status quo." mckinsey selects for a certain kind of person — status driven, political quietist, willing to look the other way — and buttigieg doesn't seem like he's changed a whole lot since then. | ||
GreenHorizons
United States22974 Posts
On August 30 2019 04:52 farvacola wrote: Warren/Buttigieg is what I’d put money on if I were forced to today. That sounds like an awful/losing ticket to me, better than Biden, but still awful. I don't think Warren has a serious chance though I have to admit I didn't think she'd be able to recover from her stumbling early in the campaign. Harris and Buttigieg are also rans but the field should be down to them +Biden, Sanders, and Warren already. The scattershot anti-Bernie candidates all failed and the main talking point against Bernie from liberals is undermined by Bernie having the most diverse coalition of support. It seems obvious Bernie provides the best chance for Democrats to win and the opposition to him is really opposition to the policy he represents. Warren is a fraud imo and is predicating her campaign on her willingness to fight for the important issues, which she completely bailed on in 2016. | ||
HelpMeGetBetter
United States763 Posts
On August 30 2019 10:09 GreenHorizons wrote: That sounds like an awful/losing ticket to me, better than Biden, but still awful. I don't think Warren has a serious chance though I have to admit I didn't think she'd be able to recover from her stumbling early in the campaign. Harris and Buttigieg are also rans but the field should be down to them +Biden, Sanders, and Warren already. The scattershot anti-Bernie candidates all failed and the main talking point against Bernie from liberals is undermined by Bernie having the most diverse coalition of support. It seems obvious Bernie provides the best chance for Democrats to win and the opposition to him is really opposition to the policy he represents. Warren is a fraud imo and is predicating her campaign on her willingness to fight for the important issues, which she completely bailed on in 2016. Is Biden allowed to be vice president again? is that the reason we never see a ____ /Biden ticket possibility? just wondering. | ||
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Falling
Canada11320 Posts
On August 30 2019 09:30 Mohdoo wrote: Are you saying you think republican ideology is generally more in line with the teachings of Jesus than democrats? Or just pointing out that Buttigieg has not shown himself to be more knowledgeable than Pence? I've made no claims for the Republicans. It was you that was looking forward to Buttigieg 'bodyslamming' Pence on the Bible. I only observed that to date I have not seen the chops necessary to body slam anyone outside of the sort of twitter/ facebook "got 'em" memes that that get retweeted amongst people who already agree with your position. The depth is of the same calibre as those Liberal Logic memes. | ||
GreenHorizons
United States22974 Posts
Two cameras that malfunctioned outside the jail cell where financier Jeffrey Epstein died as he awaited trial on sex-trafficking charges have been sent to an FBI crime lab for examination, a law enforcement source told Reuters. Epstein’s lawyers Reid Weingarten and Martin Weinberg told U.S. District Judge Richard Berman in Manhattan on Tuesday they had doubts about the New York City chief medical examiner’s conclusion that their client killed himself. The two cameras were within view of the Manhattan jail cell where he was found dead on Aug. 10. A source earlier told Reuters two jail guards failed to follow a procedure overnight to make separate checks on all prisoners every 30 minutes. He had been taken off suicide watch prior to his death. The cameras were sent to Quantico, Virginia, site of a major FBI crime lab where agents and forensic scientists analyze evidence. The Washington Post reported on Monday that at least one camera in the hallway outside Epstein’s cell had footage that was unusable. The newspaper said there was other usable footage captured in the area. The U.S. Justice Department declined comment. The FBI and Federal Bureau of Prisons did not respond to requests for comment. All are investigating his death. Lawyers for Epstein also did not respond to requests for comment. www.reuters.com | ||
Simberto
Germany11402 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States22974 Posts
On August 30 2019 18:28 Simberto wrote: It is kind of absurd just how much that thing stinks. It feels kind of like rubbing it in "We can do whatever we want, we can make it as obvious as we want, and there is nothing you can do about it." You/they don't seem to be wrong. | ||
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