EPTThat a little hyperbolic, but when I see shit like the Epstein (probably Murder) situation I really can't help but to think this is some Shadowrun shit with less magic and orks.
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
That a little hyperbolic, but when I see shit like the Epstein (probably Murder) situation I really can't help but to think this is some Shadowrun shit with less magic and orks. | ||
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Silvanel
Poland4769 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46310 Posts
On August 30 2019 10:31 HelpMeGetBetter wrote: Is Biden allowed to be vice president again? is that the reason we never see a ____ /Biden ticket possibility? just wondering. He is allowed to be VP again: "The term of office for both the vice president and the president is four years. While the Twenty-Second Amendment sets a limit on the number of times an individual can be elected to the presidency – twice,[55] there is no such limitation on the office of vice president, meaning an eligible person could hold the office as long as voters continued to vote for electors who in turn would reelect the person to the office; one could even serve under different presidents." ~ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vice_President_of_the_United_States I suppose a Progressive/Biden P/VP ticket would be about as successful as a Biden/Progressive P/VP ticket, which wouldn't be bad at all (in terms of the odds of beating Trump/Pence) if both moderates and progressives get behind the ticket. My guess as to why you may not have seen many ____/Biden tickets discussed is because either: 1. Biden has been the frontrunner the whole time, and so maybe you'll see him being discussed in the second slot more frequently if he starts polling clearly in 2nd or 3rd; 2. Some people would probably like to replace his moderate candidacy with other, fresher moderate candidates. | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7032 Posts
On August 30 2019 18:05 GreenHorizons wrote: In a not so surprising turn of events, the cameras that would catch anyone going in and out of Epstein's cell "malfunctioned". www.reuters.com I thought before that Epstein couldn't possibly have been murdered, since surely it would have been captured on the security cameras or certainly the guards would have seen something. Many people would know then about the murderers and this would trigger an entire investigation that could ultimately be traced back to whomever. There were already a lot of particulars about the case that made some degree of collusion likely, but I thought that maybe it was just garden variety corruption such as Epstein's lawyers bribing the prison to get him taken off suicide watch and have the guards look the other way. But then you hear all these absurd contrivances, guards falling asleep, cameras malfunctioning, his suicide being the first to succeed out of maybe dozens in about 15 years and so on. This has to prove that Epstein didn't act completely independently, since how would he know to "kneel down with force" (which sounds to me like a ludicrous way to kill yourself, but let's say we buy it) at precisely the moment the guards were asleep and the cameras malfunctioned? At the very least there have to be investigators who can have a closer look at this and figure out for themselves whether it was really a "clean" suicide or not, so probably many people within the AG's office or the prison or the FBI will know, so the information might be leaked to the public. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24304 Posts
On September 01 2019 04:06 Grumbels wrote: I thought before that Epstein couldn't possibly have been murdered, since surely it would have been captured on the security cameras or certainly the guards would have seen something. Many people would know then about the murderers and this would trigger an entire investigation that could ultimately be traced back to whomever. There were already a lot of particulars about the case that made some degree of collusion likely, but I thought that maybe it was just garden variety corruption such as Epstein's lawyers bribing the prison to get him taken off suicide watch and have the guards look the other way. But then you hear all these absurd contrivances, guards falling asleep, cameras malfunctioning, his suicide being the first to succeed out of maybe dozens in about 15 years and so on. This has to prove that Epstein didn't act completely independently, since how would he know to "kneel down with force" (which sounds to me like a ludicrous way to kill yourself, but let's say we buy it) at precisely the moment the guards were asleep and the cameras malfunctioned? At the very least there have to be investigators who can have a closer look at this and figure out for themselves whether it was really a "clean" suicide or not, so probably many people within the AG's office or the prison or the FBI will know, so the information might be leaked to the public. That would take one bold sob. If it wasn't "clean" I'm not sure it'd be very wise to tell anyone that's what you discovered. If they got to Epstein in those conditions, some journalist/investigator doesn't have a chance in hell. Probably wouldn't even get a headline when you disappeared or died mysteriously. Alternatively, it's a pretty safe bet that if you conclude it was clean (despite discovering otherwise), you're in for a promotion. | ||
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redlightdistrict
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GreenHorizons
United States24304 Posts
That case stunk to me from the beginning, but as is usually the case, I suspect his supporters will react like the SFPOA and embolden more delusional vigilantes like we've seen lately perpetrating more and more mass shootings and such. EDIT:_____________________________________________________________________________________________ On a lighter(?) note there was a "straight pride parade" in Boston (missing P6 right about now) that looked more like a pro Trump parade escorted/joined by police and that one guy Milo. Any gathering of political supporters has the potential to draw out less than ideal representations of your supporters but sweet lord this is a dark timeline. | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4441 Posts
On August 30 2019 18:05 GreenHorizons wrote: In a not so surprising turn of events, the cameras that would catch anyone going in and out of Epstein's cell "malfunctioned". www.reuters.com Were they also 'malfunctioning' the first time he 'attempted suicide' about 3-4 weeks prior to him dying? | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24304 Posts
On September 01 2019 10:41 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: Were they also 'malfunctioning' the first time he 'attempted suicide' about 3-4 weeks prior to him dying? That's actually a really good question I haven't personally seen asked or answered in media coverage or mentioned as part of the investigation. | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7032 Posts
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Nouar
France3270 Posts
https://edition-m.cnn.com/2019/09/01/politics/donald-trump-category-5-hurricane-dorian/index.html | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7032 Posts
On September 02 2019 05:07 Nouar wrote: This time does not even look like ill intent or hyperbole, just plain old dementia. Trump is saying, as he did in the past, that he had never heard of cat5 hurricanes, much less hitting land, and that this one is the strongest he's ever seen or heard of, despite there having been several since he became president, or even before that... https://edition-m.cnn.com/2019/09/01/politics/donald-trump-category-5-hurricane-dorian/index.html Maybe we can get another interview like this. Trump may destroy all life on earth, but he's easily the most genuinely funny president in recent memory. | ||
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ShoCkeyy
7815 Posts
On September 02 2019 05:07 Nouar wrote: This time does not even look like ill intent or hyperbole, just plain old dementia. Trump is saying, as he did in the past, that he had never heard of cat5 hurricanes, much less hitting land, and that this one is the strongest he's ever seen or heard of, despite there having been several since he became president, or even before that... https://edition-m.cnn.com/2019/09/01/politics/donald-trump-category-5-hurricane-dorian/index.html Remember he thinks Puerto Rico is it's own country. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
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Nouar
France3270 Posts
On September 02 2019 14:22 Artisreal wrote: Everything trump says is hyperbolic. So it's not surprising that this hurricane is the biggest, scariest wettest and that the US's answer to it will be the best and the preparation for it even better. I'm not surprised about that, it's his way of doing things. Saying repeatedly he's never heard or seen of cat5 hurricane, while it's not the first, this is worrying me about his mental state. Because he's convinced that's the case, so he completely forgot, even recent catastrophic events... Same as when he insisted agent orange was napalm in front of vets, because he saw it in Apocalypse now... | ||
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Uldridge
Belgium5201 Posts
Or, you know, hes absolutely incapable of self awareness, which is completely possible with people that are born into their success and have the intelligence of a cucumber. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24304 Posts
Of the three people leading the Democratic nomination 1 was a Republican most of their life, 1 proudly worked with segregationists, and the other isn't a Democrat and never was (and the party leaders like this last one the least). | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22551 Posts
On September 02 2019 18:19 GreenHorizons wrote: No, only in your skewed view does this exist.You guys ever think the focus on Trump's incompetence (of which there's no one left here or anywhere really to convince otherwise)/speculation on his mental condition is a result of being able to critique long existing US policies (and vulnerabilities Trump helped expose) without having to indict neoliberalism and Democrats? Of the three people leading the Democratic nomination 1 was a Republican most of their life, 1 proudly worked with segregationists, and the other isn't a Democrat and never was (and the party leaders like this last one the least). Everyone else is just constantly reminded and shocked by how utterly stupid the person is that (part of) America elected as their President. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24304 Posts
On September 02 2019 18:39 Gorsameth wrote: No, only in your skewed view does this exist. Everyone else is just constantly reminded and shocked by how utterly stupid the person is that (part of) America elected as their President. Does what exist? I'm speaking generally in the media as well as here, but 2 people specifically said they aren't surprised, and I doubt they forgot (there are daily reminders, of little interest I would think) so I'm pretty sure that's not it. He's got a better shot than most people think right now too. People seem to forget, I guess because of his slight competence and generally congenial small talk people forget he lied us into a war that ended up costing trillions and hundreds of thousands of lives that his buddies profited off of. Then got reelected | ||
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