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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9062 Posts
January 12 2019 05:01 GMT
#20721
Security is gonna be super tight if it gets to 1-2 months. Like I said, tax refunds not being processed, food stamps, disability payments (which I receive), etc are going to get a lot of people up in arms. One lesson is to never fuck with another person's livelihoods.
Starlightsun
Profile Blog Joined June 2016
United States1405 Posts
January 12 2019 06:55 GMT
#20722
Tulsi Gabbard announcing she's going to run for president. Kind of interesting.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
January 12 2019 07:21 GMT
#20723
On January 12 2019 15:55 Starlightsun wrote:
Tulsi Gabbard announcing she's going to run for president. Kind of interesting.

She's going to go nowhere. She's a complete joke.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46151 Posts
January 12 2019 11:20 GMT
#20724
On January 12 2019 16:21 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2019 15:55 Starlightsun wrote:
Tulsi Gabbard announcing she's going to run for president. Kind of interesting.

She's going to go nowhere. She's a complete joke.


I'm marginally interested in seeing how a bigger Democratic primary cast plays out, since last time it was Hillary vs. Bernie vs. 2-3 completely irrelevant other guys that no one cared about. Having like 10 Democratic primary candidates might become interesting and might allow more good ideas to be presented and acknowledged.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 12 2019 14:10 GMT
#20725
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 12 2019 17:31 GMT
#20726
julian castro is supposed to be announcing today, joining tulsi gabbard at the bottom of the field.

i think ultimately really going to shape up between kamala and warren/ sanders (if and when he likely declares). i don't think biden is going to get as much pull as the media/ polls think he is. there will be other good quality candidates like klobuchar, gillibrand and booker who may or may not run based on what they think their chances are.
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14153 Posts
January 12 2019 18:14 GMT
#20727
On January 12 2019 23:10 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2019 15:55 Starlightsun wrote:
Tulsi Gabbard announcing she's going to run for president. Kind of interesting.

Isnt that what everyone said on trump? Its hard to predict what will shake out with no clear front runner.

People thought that trump would Peter out as he made mistakes gabbard will fail because no one gives a shit in the first place.

Unidentified female politician with no electoral advantage wants to run for president is something their friends are supposed to tell them not to do.

I really thought that dems would have someone better then beto but at this point I really don't know.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
January 12 2019 18:38 GMT
#20728
On January 13 2019 03:14 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2019 23:10 JimmiC wrote:
On January 12 2019 15:55 Starlightsun wrote:
Tulsi Gabbard announcing she's going to run for president. Kind of interesting.

Isnt that what everyone said on trump? Its hard to predict what will shake out with no clear front runner.

People thought that trump would Peter out as he made mistakes gabbard will fail because no one gives a shit in the first place.

Unidentified female politician with no electoral advantage wants to run for president is something their friends are supposed to tell them not to do.

I really thought that dems would have someone better then beto but at this point I really don't know.

My current ranking is:

1. Bernie
2. Beto
3. Harris
4. One of the Oregonian
5-99. Others
100. Warren

Warren is dogshit.

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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32749 Posts
January 12 2019 18:41 GMT
#20729
Not-congratulations for reaching the longest government shut-down yet.

Also a NYT report says the F.B.I was investigating on a counterintelligence front whether Trump was working on behalf of Russia soon after he fired Comey. Mueller took over the inquiry, but no one knows whether he is still pursuing it or not, and some F.B.I agents were questioning whether the investigation was overstepping. Worth noting it could be nothing and they concluded there was no threat, but a president being examined like this doesn't smell of normal.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14153 Posts
January 12 2019 18:44 GMT
#20730
On January 13 2019 03:38 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2019 03:14 Sermokala wrote:
On January 12 2019 23:10 JimmiC wrote:
On January 12 2019 15:55 Starlightsun wrote:
Tulsi Gabbard announcing she's going to run for president. Kind of interesting.

Isnt that what everyone said on trump? Its hard to predict what will shake out with no clear front runner.

People thought that trump would Peter out as he made mistakes gabbard will fail because no one gives a shit in the first place.

Unidentified female politician with no electoral advantage wants to run for president is something their friends are supposed to tell them not to do.

I really thought that dems would have someone better then beto but at this point I really don't know.

My current ranking is:

1. Bernie
2. Beto
3. Harris
4. One of the Oregonian
5-99. Others
100. Warren

Warren is dogshit.

You rank Klobuchar in that 5-99 despite her obvious electoral advantage and her midwestern mom counter to trump?
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
January 12 2019 19:00 GMT
#20731
If Beto couldn't beat Ted Cruz how will he beat Donald Trump?
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9062 Posts
January 12 2019 19:02 GMT
#20732
Beto
Harris
Warren
Bernie
....insert random here
Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
January 12 2019 19:06 GMT
#20733
Bernie supporters are going to be disappointed again in 2020. He couldn't beat Clinton, why would he win this time? Democrats will vote for a democrat, not Bernie. Not to mention their representatives are becoming younger and more diverse, so why reverse that and go with a candidate so similar to Trump?
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
January 12 2019 19:08 GMT
#20734
On January 13 2019 04:00 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
If Beto couldn't beat Ted Cruz how will he beat Donald Trump?


He came very close to beating Cruz, and that was a Texas election rather than a national election. His performance in the Texas election was actually extremely good for a Democrat.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22440 Posts
January 12 2019 19:10 GMT
#20735
On January 13 2019 04:00 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
If Beto couldn't beat Ted Cruz how will he beat Donald Trump?
If a Democratic candidate needs to be able to win a senate race in Texas your searching for a long time...

Or you can talk about how he almost won a seat in Texas, losing by the smallest difference since Democrats last won in 1988?

It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44162 Posts
January 12 2019 19:49 GMT
#20736
On January 13 2019 04:00 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
If Beto couldn't beat Ted Cruz how will he beat Donald Trump?

Beto couldn't flip Texas. But there are actually more states in the US than Texas.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 12 2019 20:12 GMT
#20737
beto has charisma flowing out of pretty much orifice, but its kind of hard to see him winning the primary.
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
January 12 2019 20:27 GMT
#20738
Is charisma what is needed? Trump's ogre-ish ways set him off from the standard ever smiling eternally positive politician.

I really think the Dems need something different. Maybe I'm too much of a Bernie-bro and he really is too old now but Dems need someone more out there than O'Rourke. More left-wing to get some of those disgruntled working class who are not yet mindcontrolled by the propaganda machine.

Then again maybe I'm underestimating the hatred against anything too leftish in the US.
Neosteel Enthusiast
Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-12 21:11:13
January 12 2019 21:08 GMT
#20739
Bernie will be 79 on election day 2020, almost a full decade older than the oldest person to take office, Trump. I really think you can't ignore age, it's being talked about a lot for Trump. Plus, Bernie isn't even a democrat, and has lost a high profile primary that is still in everyone's minds. I think there will be people in the democrat party hesitant to have someone who is 84/88 years old in the White House.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 12 2019 21:20 GMT
#20740
i suspect in a more crowded primary that he'll have difficulty even with the increased name recognition.
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