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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 07 2019 18:15 GMT
#20441
The Democrats are now going to block any bills in the Senate until the funding package the senate unanimously passed(later killed by Paul Ryan) is voted on. Mitch McConnell isn’t going to be able to live in the magically land where he could use reconciliation to avoid dealing with the Democrats any longer.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 07 2019 18:35 GMT
#20442
On January 08 2019 03:15 Plansix wrote:
The Democrats are now going to block any bills in the Senate until the funding package the senate unanimously passed(later killed by Paul Ryan) is voted on. Mitch McConnell isn’t going to be able to live in the magically land where he could use reconciliation to avoid dealing with the Democrats any longer.


Eh, this is the guy who fillibustered his own proposal. I wouldn't expect too much from McConnell.

At least he didn't decide to go 50+1 on all Senate votes.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 07 2019 18:39 GMT
#20443
On January 08 2019 03:35 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2019 03:15 Plansix wrote:
The Democrats are now going to block any bills in the Senate until the funding package the senate unanimously passed(later killed by Paul Ryan) is voted on. Mitch McConnell isn’t going to be able to live in the magically land where he could use reconciliation to avoid dealing with the Democrats any longer.


Eh, this is the guy who fillibustered his own proposal. I wouldn't expect too much from McConnell.

At least he didn't decide to go 50+1 on all Senate votes.

The attempted repeal of the ACA pretty much confirmed the greatest thing McConnell could do for Democrats is to remove the filibuster. So lord turtle is welcome to follow Trump’s advice on that one.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 07 2019 20:10 GMT
#20444
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 07 2019 20:13 GMT
#20445
I don’t like paying for congress’s salaries when they can’t pass bills or for useless fighter jets that we barely use, but that isn't how this all works.

If people didn’t want Trump to have secret service protection for life, they shouldn’t have elected him. And impeachment won't change the fact that the goverment will need to assure his safety going forward.

Also, how much longer can than man live, really?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
January 07 2019 20:49 GMT
#20446
On January 08 2019 05:13 Plansix wrote:
I don’t like paying for congress’s salaries when they can’t pass bills or for useless fighter jets that we barely use, but that isn't how this all works.

If people didn’t want Trump to have secret service protection for life, they shouldn’t have elected him. And impeachment won't change the fact that the goverment will need to assure his safety going forward.

Also, how much longer can than man live, really?


Well he never uses his life battery so I assume a long long time
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-07 21:13:30
January 07 2019 21:11 GMT
#20447
On January 08 2019 05:13 Plansix wrote:
I don’t like paying for congress’s salaries when they can’t pass bills or for useless fighter jets that we barely use, but that isn't how this all works.

If people didn’t want Trump to have secret service protection for life, they shouldn’t have elected him. And impeachment won't change the fact that the goverment will need to assure his safety going forward.

Also, how much longer can than man live, really?


Actually the Former President Act, which allows SS protection for life, wouldn't apply if he was impeached. DoJ said as much during the Nixon mess (in defense for why Nixon was entitled to benefits since he wasnt officially impeached). They said it was based on an "unambiguous " reading of the statutory language. So sayeth Wiki and the article it links to.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
January 07 2019 21:44 GMT
#20448
Trump will 'Address the Nation' on the southern border tomorrow. Gonna brute force the wall?



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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 07 2019 21:54 GMT
#20449
There has been a lot of talk about him declaring a state of emergency and having the military build the wall using defense department funds. Personally, I endorse the President’s efforts to us the Federal Army to seize land from Texans. Because if we are going to have a terrible plan, I want the best terrible plan possible.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 07 2019 21:57 GMT
#20450
On January 08 2019 06:54 Plansix wrote:
There has been a lot of talk about him declaring a state of emergency and having the military build the wall using defense department funds. Personally, I endorse the President’s efforts to us the Federal Army to seize land from Texans. Because if we are going to have a terrible plan, I want the best terrible plan possible.


remember operation jade helm?
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 07 2019 22:06 GMT
#20451
On January 08 2019 06:57 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2019 06:54 Plansix wrote:
There has been a lot of talk about him declaring a state of emergency and having the military build the wall using defense department funds. Personally, I endorse the President’s efforts to us the Federal Army to seize land from Texans. Because if we are going to have a terrible plan, I want the best terrible plan possible.


remember operation jade helm?

Obama was going to take over the state of Texas and dispose of political dissidents....for......some reason. My favorite part of that conspiracy theory was how the goals at the end were so unclear and kinda dumb. One theory was imposing population control as if Texas would somehow rate over Florida for limiting the number of humans the state produced.
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
January 07 2019 22:26 GMT
#20452
Meh, if all he is doing to do is lie his ass off the news networks should cut it off quickly or, at least, have the word LIE pop up big red text everytime he does. A running counter in the corner would be fine too.

I'm also on board the "hoping he declares a national emergency' train as well. That will be hilarious if nothing else.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22649 Posts
January 07 2019 22:35 GMT
#20453
Can Congress overwrite the President on declaring a state of emergency?
(not the the Republicans would actually do so).
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
January 07 2019 22:36 GMT
#20454
On January 08 2019 07:26 On_Slaught wrote:
Meh, if all he is doing to do is lie his ass off the news networks should cut it off quickly or, at least, have the word LIE pop up big red text everytime he does. A running counter in the corner would be fine too.

I'm also on board the "hoping he declares a national emergency' train as well. That will be hilarious if nothing else.


It would be an interesting social experiment to see what would happen to national dialogue if Trump just straight up said "every single day, one hundred thousand Mexican ISIS (MISIS) members flood through our borders".
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
January 07 2019 23:01 GMT
#20455
On January 08 2019 07:26 On_Slaught wrote:
Meh, if all he is doing to do is lie his ass off the news networks should cut it off quickly or, at least, have the word LIE pop up big red text everytime he does. A running counter in the corner would be fine too.

I'm also on board the "hoping he declares a national emergency' train as well. That will be hilarious if nothing else.


What happens if he actually does that? Declare a national emergency for building the wall, I mean?
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12023 Posts
January 07 2019 23:09 GMT
#20456
Also, isn't the "humanitarian crisis" basically only US agencies imprisoning tens of thousands of people in mass camps? That would be pretty easy to address, as he as a president could just say "lets stop doing that". Not that he is gonna do that, ever.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-07 23:29:55
January 07 2019 23:22 GMT
#20457
On January 08 2019 08:01 iamthedave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2019 07:26 On_Slaught wrote:
Meh, if all he is doing to do is lie his ass off the news networks should cut it off quickly or, at least, have the word LIE pop up big red text everytime he does. A running counter in the corner would be fine too.

I'm also on board the "hoping he declares a national emergency' train as well. That will be hilarious if nothing else.


What happens if he actually does that? Declare a national emergency for building the wall, I mean?


Dunno. Probably gets sued like he has for most of his decisions. I imagine he would have to prove an actual emergency to someone, be it Congress or the Courts. That's when the fun begins.

Edit: As a fun aside, Trump is lying in a funny way again. He off handedly said last Friday that some of his predecessors told him that he should build the wall. In just 3 days every living President has come out and said they never said that. Trump likes this sort of lie. He has lied many times about, for example, show hosts begging to interview him but being turned down only for those hosts to say they never asked.
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-07 23:25:17
January 07 2019 23:23 GMT
#20458
It's probably gonna be BS like this. Even Fox couldn't stomach the lies.

Fox guy: 'The state department says no credible evidence of any terrorist coming from Mexico'
Sarah: 'There's 4000 known or suspected terrorists coming here illegally'
Fox guy 'I know that number but those people are detained at airports, there's not any coming across the southern border'
Sarah 'Well they come by air, land and sea.'

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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
January 07 2019 23:54 GMT
#20459
On January 08 2019 07:35 Gorsameth wrote:
Can Congress overwrite the President on declaring a state of emergency?
(not the the Republicans would actually do so).

It will face 1000 legal challenges anyways. Any state of emergency is supposed to be done in consultation with congress.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44368 Posts
January 08 2019 00:23 GMT
#20460
On January 08 2019 08:23 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
It's probably gonna be BS like this. Even Fox couldn't stomach the lies.

Fox guy: 'The state department says no credible evidence of any terrorist coming from Mexico'
Sarah: 'There's 4000 known or suspected terrorists coming here illegally'
Fox guy 'I know that number but those people are detained at airports, there's not any coming across the southern border'
Sarah 'Well they come by air, land and sea.'

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1081966342603821057

How can they be losing on Fox, a network that exists purely to promote their policies.
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