Overclockin requires the right board and ram, and it depends on the type of processor, and sometimes it gets pretty specific. If you get an AMD thoroughbred 1800+ (What I have), ive even pushed 2300 mhz with it because its unlocked. Only thourougbreds come unlocked, but you can get unlocking kits for most AMD processors. Intel doesnt need to be unlocked, but require good cooling, or they quit ASAP. Your ram depends on alot of things, if you want heavy MHZ while keeping the ram at the same speed, overclock your BUS speed, and that will give you a more balanced OC, but if your ram sucks (pc2700 generic sucks), overclock the multiplier. If you can't overclock the multiplier, its because your processor needs to be unlocked. Liquid cooling is nice, but it isnt necessary. I have 3 case fans in the front/back, a 120mm in the side, and a 120mm in the top, and my case runs steady at 18 celsius. My processor is usually 40 overcloeked at 2000 mhz (500mhz overclock

at idle, but if i start running 3d mark it goes up to 50. When its not overclocked it runs at 33 idle, and 36 under full load. So ya, when your overclocking, its not just your processor that your overclocking, its your ram and sometimes mother board that matter the most.

if u dontr know what your doingt dont get into over clocking, you will fry your cpu and your motherboard
- Hovz

^ No shit, maybe your going to tell us your white next time to.

HovZ

United States1917 Posts

June 26 2003 10:43 GMT

#44

schooled if u had any knowledge as u pretend u do, u would know that overclocking the fsb does overclock the cpu, u cant just overclock the fsb and leave the cpu the same, the bus speed determines the speed of the cpu by a little thing called multiplier, thats why ceertain cpus overclock better, they have a higher/lower multiplier.

also OC'ing an 1800+ to 2300 mhz is a lot more then 500, here again u prove your ignorance, cuz the 1800 isnt the spec of thwe MHZ, its the comparable performance of the pentium 4 at 1800 mhz, an 1800+ runs somewhere around 1600, maybe a bit less so your telling us your OCing an athlon processor by 700+ MHZ with stock cooling? sure kid

ObsoleteLogic

United States3676 Posts

June 26 2003 11:15 GMT

#45

Hovz, I'm impressed. You can't type, but you know how the system works/overclocking.

I don't bother with it because it takes a lot more patience/effort than I have. My AMD XP 2000+ 1.7 is good enough, considering that I don't run anything more intensive than Bryce 5.

Artenus

United States162 Posts

June 26 2003 11:48 GMT

#46

its easier to overclock lowend cpus such as athlonxp 1700+(1.53ghz) Many of todays lowend cpus are actually underclocked highend cpus. why would amd and intel do that? well its because the yields (think of it as quality)for highend chips are really good and there arent enough low yield chips to fullfill the orders for lowend chips. so guess what? you could be buying a 1700+ thats actually a 2400+ chip. its also a good deal to spend 50 bucks for a 1700+ and oc it to a 2400+(which costs more). overclocking can easily be done by changing the bus or mulitplier and rise the voltage a little higher if necessary. Also, its harder to oc highend cpus at 2.8+ghz because those cpus already use very high yield silicon. so its a lot harder to get an extra 300mhz out of a 3ghz cpu. btw, some people overclock not because they want a super fast computer. but simply because they can pay less and get more through overclocking.(if youre rich then you go buy whatever speed you want) ie 1700+ to 2400+ think about the price and the performance gain (plz look at benchmarks). overclocking is dangerous, is hard, is retarded *cough* ...blahblah...just misconceptions. It really depends on what you are trying to overclock.

HovZ

United States1917 Posts

June 26 2003 12:30 GMT

#47

i dont overclock cuz my system si fast enough and its not worth the risk of frying my components, i aint rich

Ion)Positive

Morocco1389 Posts

June 26 2003 14:02 GMT

#48

Its worth it for my friends aparently. They could care less if they fry it as long as it doesn't take long to buy a new computer.

Artenus

United States162 Posts

June 26 2003 14:51 GMT

#49

it is worth it. the chance of frying anything other than your cpu is really low. even frying the cpu is pretty low as well, just make sure it doesnt get over 40 when you play games. besides, if it gets fried, u can always get another 1 for 50 bucks. no big deal

HovZ

United States1917 Posts

June 26 2003 15:41 GMT

#50

for 50 bucks u wont get anything other then a low speed budget chip(which u can then fry trying to OC again)

schooled

Canada46 Posts

June 26 2003 20:01 GMT

#51

WTF Where did I once say it didnt overclock the processor. Actually, copy paste it for me you idiot. And LOOK

. My processor is usually 40 overcloeked at 2000 mhz (500mhz overclock at idle, but if i start running 3d mark it goes up to 50.

2000 MHZ - 1500 MHZ = 500 MHZ. Its called math, they learn it in a place called school you fucking idiot. And if you KNEW anything, you would know that overclocking your mulitplier and your FSB is different. FSB affects ram and cpu, multiplier doesnt. Your actually the most retarded son of a bitch I have ever met, like actually.

schooled

Canada46 Posts

June 26 2003 20:03 GMT

#52

And you aint gonna fry your processor, all motherboards within 2 years old shut off before they get a chance to heat up. Frying a MB or a processor is pretty dam rare. STFU HovZ, no one listen to him, if your going to overclock, dont worry about it, as long as ure not doing huge ones, you will be absolutely fine.

mindspike

Canada1902 Posts

June 26 2003 21:05 GMT

#53

Overclocking is fine but theres very little performance increase
At most u get 15% boost and in 6 months there will be a new processor with 50% more power at the same cost.

Artenus

United States162 Posts

June 26 2003 22:37 GMT

#54

On June 27 2003 00:41 HovZ wrote:
for 50 bucks u wont get anything other then a low speed budget chip(which u can then fry trying to OC again)

like i said...the chance of frying your cpu is very low. just make sure the cpu temp doesnt get over 45c and it will be fine. seriously...stop posting bs and misconceptions.

Artenus

United States162 Posts

June 26 2003 22:44 GMT

#55

On June 27 2003 06:05 mindspike wrote:
Overclocking is fine but theres very little performance increase
At most u get 15% boost and in 6 months there will be a new processor with 50% more power at the same cost.

it varies. some application will benefit a lot from faster cpu. besides whos going upgrade a comp every 6months... gets really expensive and its hard to keep up(unless youre rich)

HovZ

United States1917 Posts

June 26 2003 22:46 GMT

#56

schooled are u an idiot? U DONT OC A MULTIPLIER, A MULTIPLIER IS THE RATE AT WHICH THE FSB IS MULTIPLIED TO ACHIEVE THE CPU SPEED, SO IF THE MULTIPLIER ISNT RELATED TO THE CPU, WHAT IS IT RELATED TO? AND U SAID U GOT UR ATHLON TO 2300 MHZ WITH STOCK COOLING, LIE MORE PLZ

iSuXOr

United States606 Posts

June 26 2003 22:58 GMT

#57

Artenus, how about instead of having a 1.4 and spending $40 on a heatsink and fan for a marginal increase in speed you just buy a 1700+ since it's about the same price. Overclocking just isn't worth it and it's stupid in almost every situation. You either don't get a big increase in performance and possibly lose stability. Or you pay the equivalent of just buying a better processor for some cooling. Overclocking is NOT worth it and only a retard would think the pros outweigh the cons...

Klogon

MURICA15980 Posts

June 26 2003 23:02 GMT

#58

unless you get the latest chip and overclock it.

Artenus

United States162 Posts

June 26 2003 23:25 GMT

#59

On June 27 2003 07:46 HovZ wrote:
schooled are u an idiot? U DONT OC A MULTIPLIER, A MULTIPLIER IS THE RATE AT WHICH THE FSB IS MULTIPLIED TO ACHIEVE THE CPU SPEED, SO IF THE MULTIPLIER ISNT RELATED TO THE CPU, WHAT IS IT RELATED TO? AND U SAID U GOT UR ATHLON TO 2300 MHZ WITH STOCK COOLING, LIE MORE PLZ

u overclock BY CHANGING(PLZ READ CAREFULLY) the multiplier not oc!!!...sigh...and WHEN DID I POST I GOT MY ATHLON TO 2300 MHZ WITH STOCK COOLING??? LEARN TO READ???

Artenus

United States162 Posts

June 26 2003 23:33 GMT

#60

On June 27 2003 07:58 iSuXOr wrote:
Artenus, how about instead of having a 1.4 and spending $40 on a heatsink and fan for a marginal increase in speed you just buy a 1700+ since it's about the same price. Overclocking just isn't worth it and it's stupid in almost every situation. You either don't get a big increase in performance and possibly lose stability. Or you pay the equivalent of just buying a better processor for some cooling. Overclocking is NOT worth it and only a retard would think the pros outweigh the cons...

DID READY WHAT I WROTE??? I SAID SOME CPUS ARE UNDERCLOCKED. SO ITS POSSIBLE TO GET YOUR CPU UP TO HIGHER CLOCK WITHOUT USING TOP OF THE LINE HEATSINKS. AND WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TRYING TO SHOW WITH 1.4 AND 1700+? YOURE SEEMED CONFUSED ABOUT THE RATING SYSTEM. AND LIKE I SAID EARLIER... OVERCLOCKING CAN BE VERY GOOD SOMETIMES BUT NOT ALL THE TIME. SOMETIMES ITS POSSIBLE TO GET AN HUGE PERFORMANCE GAIN WHILE LOSING NO STABILITY. ILL STOP POSTING ABOUT THIS NOW. IF YOU GUYS THINK ITS RETARDED THEN SO BE IT. ITS YOUR LOSS NOT MINE, SO I DO NOT GIVE A SHIT. JUST STOP TRYING TO CONFUSE OTHERS BY POSTING BS.

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