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dam, its crazy that probably 95% of the people in my class don't even know whats going on.
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On November 14 2015 07:51 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 07:49 DeepElemBlues wrote:On November 14 2015 07:48 Plansix wrote:On November 14 2015 07:46 WhiteDog wrote:On November 14 2015 07:40 Plansix wrote:On November 14 2015 07:37 WhiteDog wrote:On November 14 2015 07:36 PPN wrote: Innocent people suffering and dying not far from my place. Media confusing attention whoring and information. Stupid laws and hate speech being justified de facto. Muslims getting the short straw for years to come again and again.
That's all I wanted to say... I think the people getting the short straw are the people that get killed. Agreed. But if it turns out to be Islamic extremists, there will be a fare share of totally innocent Muslims that get a helping of undeserved hate. Which is what the Islamic extremists want, tbh. I'm very irritated by the fact that some people believe it is the right moment now to argue that muslim will suffer discrimination and that it is not islam but extremism that leads to such behaviors when people are shot dead like dogs. It's just not the moment, have some decency please. Sorry, I didn't mean to offend. I am just concerned with anyone who might be hurt by what is going on. Even indirectly. From the highly coordinated and successful (ugh) nature of the attacks I think it's more likely they aren't locals, they're guys with combat experience overseas. But who knows it could be anyone from anywhere. I bet you they have the french nationality, exactly like the previous attack on charlie.
If there are locals involved I'd think they'd have to have had help from overseas, possibly including non-locals participating in the attacks themselves. This is a big thing to be doing without help from people who are experienced at it.
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On November 14 2015 07:56 Holy_AT wrote: Friday the 13th, why are there even people out in the streets? Dont they know this day is dangerous?
Made me smile thanks. Hollande also said it was terrorist attacks and That we all knew who did it.
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On November 14 2015 07:57 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 07:54 Rocket-Bear wrote:On November 14 2015 07:52 PhoenixVoid wrote:On November 14 2015 07:51 SkrollK wrote:On November 14 2015 07:49 DeepElemBlues wrote:On November 14 2015 07:48 Plansix wrote:On November 14 2015 07:46 WhiteDog wrote:On November 14 2015 07:40 Plansix wrote:On November 14 2015 07:37 WhiteDog wrote:On November 14 2015 07:36 PPN wrote: Innocent people suffering and dying not far from my place. Media confusing attention whoring and information. Stupid laws and hate speech being justified de facto. Muslims getting the short straw for years to come again and again.
That's all I wanted to say... I think the people getting the short straw are the people that get killed. Agreed. But if it turns out to be Islamic extremists, there will be a fare share of totally innocent Muslims that get a helping of undeserved hate. Which is what the Islamic extremists want, tbh. I'm very irritated by the fact that some people believe it is the right moment now to argue that muslim will suffer discrimination and that it is not islam but extremism that leads to such behaviors when people are shot dead like dogs. It's just not the moment, have some decency please. Sorry, I didn't mean to offend. I am just concerned with anyone who might be hurt by what is going on. Even indirectly. From the highly coordinated and successful (ugh) nature of the attacks I think it's more likely they aren't locals, they're guys with combat experience overseas. But who knows it could be anyone from anywhere. Could be some french Guys coming back from jihad in syria or w\e. Which would raise the question of how they even got back into France in the first place if this was the case. In Sweden jihadists got priorty getting apartments over native Swedish people who are in queue. I wish I was joking But according to our government it would help them get integrated or whatever. Ignore the fact that they just fought AGAINST our country, murdering people, drowning children etc. But sure, let them stay in our country, feels super safe. The ISIS guys are the ones still in Syria. The refugees are the ones the ISIS guys chased out of Syria with all that murdering and drowning. If you were super into ISIS and the Islamic Caliphate and all that you wouldn't leave Syria, Syria would be a paradise to you. No it's people who are born and raised in Sweden. Decides to go out and fight for ISIS. And then come back, and to intergrate them better they get apartments.
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Hollande: we know who these terrorists are. ...
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On November 14 2015 07:57 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 07:54 Rocket-Bear wrote:On November 14 2015 07:52 PhoenixVoid wrote:On November 14 2015 07:51 SkrollK wrote:On November 14 2015 07:49 DeepElemBlues wrote:On November 14 2015 07:48 Plansix wrote:On November 14 2015 07:46 WhiteDog wrote:On November 14 2015 07:40 Plansix wrote:On November 14 2015 07:37 WhiteDog wrote:On November 14 2015 07:36 PPN wrote: Innocent people suffering and dying not far from my place. Media confusing attention whoring and information. Stupid laws and hate speech being justified de facto. Muslims getting the short straw for years to come again and again.
That's all I wanted to say... I think the people getting the short straw are the people that get killed. Agreed. But if it turns out to be Islamic extremists, there will be a fare share of totally innocent Muslims that get a helping of undeserved hate. Which is what the Islamic extremists want, tbh. I'm very irritated by the fact that some people believe it is the right moment now to argue that muslim will suffer discrimination and that it is not islam but extremism that leads to such behaviors when people are shot dead like dogs. It's just not the moment, have some decency please. Sorry, I didn't mean to offend. I am just concerned with anyone who might be hurt by what is going on. Even indirectly. From the highly coordinated and successful (ugh) nature of the attacks I think it's more likely they aren't locals, they're guys with combat experience overseas. But who knows it could be anyone from anywhere. Could be some french Guys coming back from jihad in syria or w\e. Which would raise the question of how they even got back into France in the first place if this was the case. In Sweden jihadists got priorty getting apartments over native Swedish people who are in queue. I wish I was joking But according to our government it would help them get integrated or whatever. Ignore the fact that they just fought AGAINST our country, murdering people, drowning children etc. But sure, let them stay in our country, feels super safe. The ISIS guys are the ones still in Syria. The refugees are the ones the ISIS guys chased out of Syria with all that murdering and drowning. If you were super into ISIS and the Islamic Caliphate and all that you wouldn't leave Syria, Syria would be a paradise to you.
Twice in the last few months suspected ISIS members have been arrested trying to enter Europe posing as refugees.
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On November 14 2015 07:59 Faust852 wrote:... of course, they are french, born in france
we all know that
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edit hit wrong button trying to edit another post
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On November 14 2015 08:00 DeepElemBlues wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 07:57 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 07:54 Rocket-Bear wrote:On November 14 2015 07:52 PhoenixVoid wrote:On November 14 2015 07:51 SkrollK wrote:On November 14 2015 07:49 DeepElemBlues wrote:On November 14 2015 07:48 Plansix wrote:On November 14 2015 07:46 WhiteDog wrote:On November 14 2015 07:40 Plansix wrote:On November 14 2015 07:37 WhiteDog wrote: [quote] I think the people getting the short straw are the people that get killed. Agreed. But if it turns out to be Islamic extremists, there will be a fare share of totally innocent Muslims that get a helping of undeserved hate. Which is what the Islamic extremists want, tbh. I'm very irritated by the fact that some people believe it is the right moment now to argue that muslim will suffer discrimination and that it is not islam but extremism that leads to such behaviors when people are shot dead like dogs. It's just not the moment, have some decency please. Sorry, I didn't mean to offend. I am just concerned with anyone who might be hurt by what is going on. Even indirectly. From the highly coordinated and successful (ugh) nature of the attacks I think it's more likely they aren't locals, they're guys with combat experience overseas. But who knows it could be anyone from anywhere. Could be some french Guys coming back from jihad in syria or w\e. Which would raise the question of how they even got back into France in the first place if this was the case. In Sweden jihadists got priorty getting apartments over native Swedish people who are in queue. I wish I was joking But according to our government it would help them get integrated or whatever. Ignore the fact that they just fought AGAINST our country, murdering people, drowning children etc. But sure, let them stay in our country, feels super safe. The ISIS guys are the ones still in Syria. The refugees are the ones the ISIS guys chased out of Syria with all that murdering and drowning. If you were super into ISIS and the Islamic Caliphate and all that you wouldn't leave Syria, Syria would be a paradise to you. Twice in recent weeks ISIS members have been arrested trying to enter Europe posing as refugees.
And you don't want to know how many made it thanks to Merkel. Read up on how germany decides who gets in and who doesn't.
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On November 14 2015 07:59 Rocket-Bear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 07:57 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 07:54 Rocket-Bear wrote:On November 14 2015 07:52 PhoenixVoid wrote:On November 14 2015 07:51 SkrollK wrote:On November 14 2015 07:49 DeepElemBlues wrote:On November 14 2015 07:48 Plansix wrote:On November 14 2015 07:46 WhiteDog wrote:On November 14 2015 07:40 Plansix wrote:On November 14 2015 07:37 WhiteDog wrote: [quote] I think the people getting the short straw are the people that get killed. Agreed. But if it turns out to be Islamic extremists, there will be a fare share of totally innocent Muslims that get a helping of undeserved hate. Which is what the Islamic extremists want, tbh. I'm very irritated by the fact that some people believe it is the right moment now to argue that muslim will suffer discrimination and that it is not islam but extremism that leads to such behaviors when people are shot dead like dogs. It's just not the moment, have some decency please. Sorry, I didn't mean to offend. I am just concerned with anyone who might be hurt by what is going on. Even indirectly. From the highly coordinated and successful (ugh) nature of the attacks I think it's more likely they aren't locals, they're guys with combat experience overseas. But who knows it could be anyone from anywhere. Could be some french Guys coming back from jihad in syria or w\e. Which would raise the question of how they even got back into France in the first place if this was the case. In Sweden jihadists got priorty getting apartments over native Swedish people who are in queue. I wish I was joking But according to our government it would help them get integrated or whatever. Ignore the fact that they just fought AGAINST our country, murdering people, drowning children etc. But sure, let them stay in our country, feels super safe. The ISIS guys are the ones still in Syria. The refugees are the ones the ISIS guys chased out of Syria with all that murdering and drowning. If you were super into ISIS and the Islamic Caliphate and all that you wouldn't leave Syria, Syria would be a paradise to you. No it's people who are born and raised in Sweden. Decides to go out and fight for ISIS. And then come back, and to intergrate them better they get apartments. We have had military people go full extremist and then shoot up our own bases. The worst part is that the writing is on the wall if anyone bothered to check.
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Please French people, try to avoid mindless Hollande bashing, criticism does not bring solutions
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On November 14 2015 08:01 OtherWorld wrote: Please French people, try to avoid mindless Hollande bashing, criticism does not bring solutions
Actually though, that's kinda exactly what criticism does. Bashing doesn't equal criticising.
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French guy on bfm Just said he ran for his life to get safe, and doing That he ran over at least ten corpses...
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This looks to be of a proportion greater than "usual," as terrible and odd a thing that is to say. Let's hope it resolves as soon as possible.
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On November 14 2015 08:02 m4ini wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 08:01 OtherWorld wrote: Please French people, try to avoid mindless Hollande bashing, criticism does not bring solutions Actually though, that's kinda exactly what criticism does. Bashing doesn't equal criticising. Random people criticizing the president of France for not preventing a terrorist attack? Do people know what presidents do? Doesn't give them superpowers.
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United States43616 Posts
On November 14 2015 08:00 DeepElemBlues wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 07:57 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 07:54 Rocket-Bear wrote:On November 14 2015 07:52 PhoenixVoid wrote:On November 14 2015 07:51 SkrollK wrote:On November 14 2015 07:49 DeepElemBlues wrote:On November 14 2015 07:48 Plansix wrote:On November 14 2015 07:46 WhiteDog wrote:On November 14 2015 07:40 Plansix wrote:On November 14 2015 07:37 WhiteDog wrote: [quote] I think the people getting the short straw are the people that get killed. Agreed. But if it turns out to be Islamic extremists, there will be a fare share of totally innocent Muslims that get a helping of undeserved hate. Which is what the Islamic extremists want, tbh. I'm very irritated by the fact that some people believe it is the right moment now to argue that muslim will suffer discrimination and that it is not islam but extremism that leads to such behaviors when people are shot dead like dogs. It's just not the moment, have some decency please. Sorry, I didn't mean to offend. I am just concerned with anyone who might be hurt by what is going on. Even indirectly. From the highly coordinated and successful (ugh) nature of the attacks I think it's more likely they aren't locals, they're guys with combat experience overseas. But who knows it could be anyone from anywhere. Could be some french Guys coming back from jihad in syria or w\e. Which would raise the question of how they even got back into France in the first place if this was the case. In Sweden jihadists got priorty getting apartments over native Swedish people who are in queue. I wish I was joking But according to our government it would help them get integrated or whatever. Ignore the fact that they just fought AGAINST our country, murdering people, drowning children etc. But sure, let them stay in our country, feels super safe. The ISIS guys are the ones still in Syria. The refugees are the ones the ISIS guys chased out of Syria with all that murdering and drowning. If you were super into ISIS and the Islamic Caliphate and all that you wouldn't leave Syria, Syria would be a paradise to you. Twice in the last few months suspected ISIS members have been arrested trying to enter Europe posing as refugees. I'm not sure what your point is. There are an awful lot of refugees, it's a huge humanitarian crisis, two incidents doesn't disqualify them from needing help. And surely if we can help the refugees while arresting ISIS members that's a good thing.
If you've got any suggestions for solving the refugee crisis while also solving the ISIS problem I will happily hear them though.
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Wow, i'm so glad Merkel decided to welcome all refugees in Germany, then when she realized she couldn't, she basically forced the rest of the EU to welcome them.  I'm also so glad we should, as the EU, follow the economic german model. You know, the one with no minimal wages and legal slaves. Oh, and their states totally work, especially when it doesn't, but we should follow it ahahha lets all be dumbs ahaha
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Northern Ireland22212 Posts
On November 14 2015 08:03 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 08:00 DeepElemBlues wrote:On November 14 2015 07:57 KwarK wrote:On November 14 2015 07:54 Rocket-Bear wrote:On November 14 2015 07:52 PhoenixVoid wrote:On November 14 2015 07:51 SkrollK wrote:On November 14 2015 07:49 DeepElemBlues wrote:On November 14 2015 07:48 Plansix wrote:On November 14 2015 07:46 WhiteDog wrote:On November 14 2015 07:40 Plansix wrote: [quote] Agreed. But if it turns out to be Islamic extremists, there will be a fare share of totally innocent Muslims that get a helping of undeserved hate. Which is what the Islamic extremists want, tbh. I'm very irritated by the fact that some people believe it is the right moment now to argue that muslim will suffer discrimination and that it is not islam but extremism that leads to such behaviors when people are shot dead like dogs. It's just not the moment, have some decency please. Sorry, I didn't mean to offend. I am just concerned with anyone who might be hurt by what is going on. Even indirectly. From the highly coordinated and successful (ugh) nature of the attacks I think it's more likely they aren't locals, they're guys with combat experience overseas. But who knows it could be anyone from anywhere. Could be some french Guys coming back from jihad in syria or w\e. Which would raise the question of how they even got back into France in the first place if this was the case. In Sweden jihadists got priorty getting apartments over native Swedish people who are in queue. I wish I was joking But according to our government it would help them get integrated or whatever. Ignore the fact that they just fought AGAINST our country, murdering people, drowning children etc. But sure, let them stay in our country, feels super safe. The ISIS guys are the ones still in Syria. The refugees are the ones the ISIS guys chased out of Syria with all that murdering and drowning. If you were super into ISIS and the Islamic Caliphate and all that you wouldn't leave Syria, Syria would be a paradise to you. Twice in the last few months suspected ISIS members have been arrested trying to enter Europe posing as refugees. I'm not sure what your point is. There are an awful lot of refugees, it's a huge humanitarian crisis, two incidents doesn't disqualify them from needing help. And surely if we can help the refugees while arresting ISIS members that's a good thing. If you've got any suggestions for solving the refugee crisis while also solving the ISIS problem I will happily hear them though. how about looking after our own first? shit sucks, u cant help everyone in the world, but ultimately france should put the safety of its own people first
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On November 14 2015 07:57 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 07:56 Makro wrote: hollande has confirmed that he's gonna deploy every french soldier and policeman of paris
the state emergency has been activated on whole france
hollande just declared that he's gonna suspend schengen Way too late idiot president. Totally idiotic, panic decision taken at the worst possible time. Resilience, have we heard of it ? The horror...
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On November 14 2015 08:03 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 14 2015 08:02 m4ini wrote:On November 14 2015 08:01 OtherWorld wrote: Please French people, try to avoid mindless Hollande bashing, criticism does not bring solutions Actually though, that's kinda exactly what criticism does. Bashing doesn't equal criticising. Random people criticizing the president of France for not preventing a terrorist attack? Do people know what presidents do? Doesn't give them superpowers. the constitution of france gives françois hollande more power than louis 14 and 16 had
huge reform could have been done but he did nothing
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