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Rescue Teams were already called back 3PM GMT+1, since nobody could have possibly survived.
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plgElwood
Germany518 Posts
Edit: Rescue Teams were already called back 3PM GMT+1, since nobody could have possibly survived. | ||
SixStrings
Germany2046 Posts
On March 25 2015 00:04 ahswtini wrote: Show nested quote + Sixteen schoolchildren and two teachers are believed to have been on the aircraft, a spokeswoman for the German town of Haltern am See has said. "We don't have any official confirmation yet," she added. Local media reports (in German) that the children are from the Joseph Koenig school. It says the building has been closed and students sent home. bless their souls Haltern am See? That's where I grew up... How weird to see that town mentioned in such a context... | ||
plgElwood
Germany518 Posts
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
On March 24 2015 22:37 Djzapz wrote: Very sad to hear . Hopefully they figure out what happened and make sure it doesn't happen again. Show nested quote + On March 24 2015 21:23 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: So thats 7 big plane crash in last 5 years? Is that significantly more than average? (Civil Aircraft with 19 or More Passengers) This don't include military planes crashed. So I think it doesn't include(?) Tupolev 154M in 2010 that killed polish president and 95 other were killed) We are losing less and less people to crashes but 2014 was bad year and this is bad addition to 2015. (TransAsia dropped down earlier) | ||
Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32732 Posts
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Maenander
Germany4919 Posts
On March 24 2015 21:35 sharkie wrote: I am starting to think all airbus planes are ticking time bombs... and I say this as someone who loves airbus... Statistics say otherwise ... 0,08 deaths per 1 million flights in the 320-series, that's way safer than the average plane and at least as good as direct competitors. | ||
ahswtini
Northern Ireland22203 Posts
christ, are all those white specks pieces of the plane? | ||
plgElwood
Germany518 Posts
The descend lastet for roughly 10 minutes, so there was plenty of time ? Or not? The drop must have been noticeably http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/4u9525/#5d42675 Can't think about a reason. Either one did this intentionally or some crucial electronics failed at once, only allowing the transponder to operate but not the radio, or flight controlls. Or the flight controlls/ cockpit were inaccessible at the time. But why would the autopilot begin to drop 1000s of feet per Minute on it's own?? I thought the pilot is setting parameters altitude/time manually and the autopilot controlls those parameters. The plane also did hold it's course, so something must have worked. If all controls failed I would have guessed the decend would have been steeper and the flight path rather uncontrolled, and not this stable and linear. Edit: The drop in altitude follows the "standard emergency descend by auto pilot", but doing such a maneuver over the alps without changing the course? Or is this a standard procedure after pressure loss engaged automatically, regardless of position? Edit2: Watching yesterdays flight BCN-DUS the data might be incorrect, since the diagramm says it bumped from 10 to 30.000 feet for a minute.. | ||
Makro
France16890 Posts
french lands had been doomed by something since the beginning of the years the interior minister said that everything will be done for the famility of the victims to access to the site, and they are working on a solution to be also hosted for some days RIP | ||
sharkie
Austria18213 Posts
On March 25 2015 02:58 Maenander wrote: Show nested quote + On March 24 2015 21:35 sharkie wrote: I am starting to think all airbus planes are ticking time bombs... and I say this as someone who loves airbus... Statistics say otherwise ... 0,08 deaths per 1 million flights in the 320-series, that's way safer than the average plane and at least as good as direct competitors. I mean that after a set period of time they just break down... The 320 is pretty old now | ||
Clonester
Germany2808 Posts
On March 25 2015 03:34 sharkie wrote: Show nested quote + On March 25 2015 02:58 Maenander wrote: On March 24 2015 21:35 sharkie wrote: I am starting to think all airbus planes are ticking time bombs... and I say this as someone who loves airbus... Statistics say otherwise ... 0,08 deaths per 1 million flights in the 320-series, that's way safer than the average plane and at least as good as direct competitors. I mean that after a set period of time they just break down... The 320 is pretty old now Boings 737 has a ratio of 0,28, while the 320 family (318-321) has a ratio of 0.08. There are older 320 flying all around the world. Over 6000 of these where build We know nothing about what happend and it will maybe take a long time to find out. Saying "320s" are killing machines after time is just not working, you could say the same stuff for other planes which are way older. Ask U.S. President how old his planes are. But as public goes, the guessing game will go on. Meanwhile some crews of Lufthansa and GermanWings do not want to fly with 320 leading to cancelation of some flights at Düsseldorf and Stuttguart Airport. | ||
plgElwood
Germany518 Posts
http://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/wiki.php?id=171411 after a AoA (angle of attack)-sensor failure the Autopilot started a "rapid" decline, and the "flight envelope protection" - System blocked the pilots from control, since the plane "thought" it was already in a steep climb. Pilots had to shut down the flight computer completly to regain controll. | ||
Clonester
Germany2808 Posts
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plgElwood
Germany518 Posts
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chroniX
517 Posts
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Kleinmuuhg
Vanuatu4091 Posts
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andrewlt
United States7692 Posts
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Dingodile
4130 Posts
10th class school excursion. | ||
Biff The Understudy
France7699 Posts
On March 24 2015 21:35 sharkie wrote: I am starting to think all airbus planes are ticking time bombs... and I say this as someone who loves airbus... In Liberation, an expert was saying that Boeing loses as many planes as Airbus these years, but that while Being planes were mostly lost for mechanical failures, Airbus planes were almost always crashing because of computer or human computer interface problems. That's interesting... | ||
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