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PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32742 Posts
June 10 2015 03:54 GMT
#141
Bill C-51 passed.

https://openmedia.ca/blog/bill-c-51-just-passed-where-do-we-go-here

Even less reason to vote Conservatives.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
June 10 2015 04:51 GMT
#142
On June 10 2015 12:54 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Bill C-51 passed.

https://openmedia.ca/blog/bill-c-51-just-passed-where-do-we-go-here

Even less reason to vote Conservatives.

Aaaaand now the election is basically a single issue matter for me.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
June 10 2015 04:55 GMT
#143
I feel super well versed in American politics, not bad on foreign affairs, but know nothing about Canadian politics.
Why is C-51 bad? Is it just pretty much having the NSA in Canada or smth?
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
June 10 2015 05:46 GMT
#144
On June 10 2015 13:55 SK.Testie wrote:
I feel super well versed in American politics, not bad on foreign affairs, but know nothing about Canadian politics.
Why is C-51 bad? Is it just pretty much having the NSA in Canada or smth?

Sort of, though technically we already have CSIS, which cover much of the same ground as the US NSA.

C-51 is basically an overreaching surveillance and data collection bill that will let government agencies invade citizen privacy all under extremely weak pretenses, all pushed through under the "anti-terrorism" scare tactics.

Or, I guess if you only know US politics, it's the kind of bill that allowed NSA to do all the data collection that everyone's just finding out about.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
soul55555
Profile Joined January 2015
Canada45 Posts
June 11 2015 19:42 GMT
#145
Wow big news from the Supreme Court of Canada they ruled Medical Marijuana legal in all forms.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/medical-marijuana-legal-in-all-forms-supreme-court-rules-1.3109148

Maybe Marijuana Legalization will become a big political issue.
killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
June 11 2015 19:48 GMT
#146
On June 12 2015 04:42 soul55555 wrote:
Wow big news from the Supreme Court of Canada they ruled Medical Marijuana legal in all forms.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/medical-marijuana-legal-in-all-forms-supreme-court-rules-1.3109148

Maybe Marijuana Legalization will become a big political issue.


Don't see how. It's pretty hard to be completely against marijuana, given most of the supposed negatives have been disproved time and time again. At most it should be a split between people going "I think it's a bad idea because it's not our main concern" and "I think we should do it (so young voters will vote for me)".
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23447 Posts
June 11 2015 20:52 GMT
#147
On June 12 2015 04:48 killa_robot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2015 04:42 soul55555 wrote:
Wow big news from the Supreme Court of Canada they ruled Medical Marijuana legal in all forms.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/medical-marijuana-legal-in-all-forms-supreme-court-rules-1.3109148

Maybe Marijuana Legalization will become a big political issue.


Don't see how. It's pretty hard to be completely against marijuana, given most of the supposed negatives have been disproved time and time again. At most it should be a split between people going "I think it's a bad idea because it's not our main concern" and "I think we should do it (so young voters will vote for me)".


Normally the US campaigns hard to keep stuff like that from passing. Think this is an indication the senate bill in the US is going to see a similar outcome.

About damn time.

Thanks Canada, now don't go all refer madness on us or you'll screw us out of our legalization
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11369 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-11 22:59:24
June 11 2015 22:40 GMT
#148
On June 10 2015 14:46 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2015 13:55 SK.Testie wrote:
I feel super well versed in American politics, not bad on foreign affairs, but know nothing about Canadian politics.
Why is C-51 bad? Is it just pretty much having the NSA in Canada or smth?

Sort of, though technically we already have CSIS, which cover much of the same ground as the US NSA.

C-51 is basically an overreaching surveillance and data collection bill that will let government agencies invade citizen privacy all under extremely weak pretenses, all pushed through under the "anti-terrorism" scare tactics.

Or, I guess if you only know US politics, it's the kind of bill that allowed NSA to do all the data collection that everyone's just finding out about.

Not only that, but it's is increased intrusive powers of the state without increasing the checks and balances. I watched two Committee hearings on CPAC and the experts were explaining that funding for the watchdog groups have not increased since the 80's, while the power and scope of our intelligence agencies have increased massively. They said something like 16 out of the 17 organizations currently have no oversight. Furthermore, data sharing between the agencies have increased over time and this bill will do the same again. However, currently the watchdog can only trace the information up until it transfers to a new agency. They cannot follow the trail any farther. C51 does nothing to change this despite the fact that information sharing is increasing.

There was also a more technical concern which I didn't understand entirely- that is we already have a definition for terror acts in our criminal code, so why is there new descriptions for something that is already covered.

Initially there was a clause that said only legal forms of protest would be protected against government intrusion, the experts wanted 'legal' taken out to just say 'protest.' I believe 'legal' got taken out in the end after much grumbling.

There was also concern that C51 could be used against environmental protests because of the sort of language used by police and government 'anti-Canadian' 'foreign.' I have no idea how valid that concern is.

Another thing that got brought in Committee by a few experts is the need for a Parliament committee with security clearance to form another oversight body. The experts were emphasizing this is needful not just a check and balance, but also as part of the evaluative, feedback process. That is, are the programs in place actually doing what they claim to be doing or are there parts that are ineffective.
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16925 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-15 01:27:36
June 15 2015 01:27 GMT
#149
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2015/06/14/tories-keep-introducing-bills-that-have-no-chance-of-becoming-law.html

i guess when meeting with whatever specific group really wants a certain bill to eventually get passed.. the Conservatives can promise them they tried their best and they will re-introduce the bill and push it through if they get re-elected.

interesting strat
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
nikj
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada669 Posts
June 26 2015 02:12 GMT
#150
So a friend of mine from High School just won the NDP nomination in Huron-Bruce. I wish I still lived in the area so could support him with my vote! It would be pretty cool to know someone in parliament.

If anyone happens to live in the riding and is interested in checking out what he has to say here is his facebook page.
Y'know sometimes people ask me y'know like "What's your religion and stuff?" And I'm like "y' know it's like RTS." Uh, and they're like, "What's that?" And I'm like, "Y'know it's kinda like, kinda like Buddism."
iMOOrtal
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada144 Posts
June 30 2015 12:36 GMT
#151
On June 15 2015 10:27 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2015/06/14/tories-keep-introducing-bills-that-have-no-chance-of-becoming-law.html

i guess when meeting with whatever specific group really wants a certain bill to eventually get passed.. the Conservatives can promise them they tried their best and they will re-introduce the bill and push it through if they get re-elected.

interesting strat


Thankfully we have the Charter, if politics was hockey, the Charter would be our goalie.

For the last 8 years, SAVE, SAVE, SAVE, SAVE... We just need to get some better players now..

God I miss Hockey..
Nine to Five? Or, Five to Nine?
Wolfstan
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada605 Posts
July 20 2015 15:29 GMT
#152
OTTAWA - Most of what is billed as the largest, one-time benefit payment in federal history is likely to hit suburban voters living in federal ridings where the Conservatives can be considered the party to beat, an analysis by The Canadian Press shows.

Number-crunching based on the last census reveals many of the ridings in line to get the biggest cheques from the newly increased Universal Child Care Benefit are in Alberta and around Toronto.

Of the top 20 destinations for the enriched UCCB payments landing Monday, 17 seats could be considered Conservative-leaning, home to the voters who could receive the biggest windfall when almost $3 billion in child care benefit payments are mailed on Monday.

...

Opposition parties have criticized the government for the increased benefit payment, backdated to the start of the year, as an election ploy.

But all three main parties have released platform planks to woo families who tend to concentrate in the key suburban ridings that could swing the federal election.

...

Employment Minister Pierre Poilievre, who oversees the expanded child benefit, offered a simple explanation.

“Families have supported the Conservative party because the Conservative government has supported families,” Poilievre said. “It’s no coincidence that many families live in ridings that have elected Conservative MPs.”

Toronto-area 905 ridings remain a key battleground: The Conservatives want to maintain their support, the Liberals are looking to regain votes they lost, and the NDP want to expand support in the suburbs beyond downtown Toronto

...

“We can be cynical about it, but on the other hand this is also democratic responsiveness,” she said.

What families wind up spending will bump consumption spending by about 1%, the central bank said. And the spending may not be on daycare alone.

“There are four million different families with four million different situations. So parents can spend it however they like,”


The parent demographic is being fought over with the incumbents firing the first salvo.

Source
EG - ROOT - Gambit Gaming
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16925 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-20 15:51:14
July 20 2015 15:49 GMT
#153
On June 30 2015 21:36 iMOOrtal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2015 10:27 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2015/06/14/tories-keep-introducing-bills-that-have-no-chance-of-becoming-law.html
i guess when meeting with whatever specific group really wants a certain bill to eventually get passed.. the Conservatives can promise them they tried their best and they will re-introduce the bill and push it through if they get re-elected.
interesting strat

Thankfully we have the Charter, if politics was hockey, the Charter would be our goalie.
For the last 8 years, SAVE, SAVE, SAVE, SAVE... We just need to get some better players now..
God I miss Hockey..


my theory is they'll never even try to pass most of that stuff upon re-election.
it just lets them promise to different groups that they'll do it if they're re-elected.... and they can point to how hard they tried to pass it before parliament was dissolved.

they take the votes... get in .. and find a new excuse not to pass whatever legislation they promised.

sounds like almost as much fun as hitting the referee over the head with a steel chair when you are losing your pro wrestling match in WWE '14.... you may lose on a DQ but at least your shoulders never got pinned to the mat

Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
soul55555
Profile Joined January 2015
Canada45 Posts
July 22 2015 15:52 GMT
#154
Deficit projected for federal government this year

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/deficit-projected-for-federal-government-this-year-1.3163097


New projections by the parliamentary budget officer suggest the federal government's budget won't be balanced this year, despite the Conservatives' promise to have no deficit in 2015.

The budget officer released the report Wednesday morning, following a July 16 request from the Liberals and July 18 request by the New Democrats. The parties made the requests based on a decline in real GDP in the first quarter of 2015, which results in lower corporate tax revenue and HST for the federal government.


The government had projected a slim, $1.4 billion surplus for 2015 in its budget, which was presented last April.

The PBO estimates a budget outlook updated with the lower GDP numbers alone would show a $1.5 billion deficit at the end of this year and a $0.1 billion, or $100 million, deficit in 2016-17. Canada would be back at a $1.5 billion surplus in 2017-18, according to the PBO projection.

But that's not the whole picture: weak GDP growth, the budget office says, would be partially offset by higher inflation and lower interest rates. Once those are taken into account, the projected deficit is $1 billion this year, with a small surplus of $0.6 billion, or $600 million, in 2016-17, and $2.2 billion in 2017-18.

Then again, "including a new set‐aside for contingencies would reduce the budgetary balance further."

The government currently has a $1 billion set-aside for contingencies.

The PBO projection came about an hour after Finance Canada said the federal government posted a $3.9 billion surplus for the first two months of the 2015-16 fiscal year. Those numbers include the estimated $3.4 billion of General Motors shares the government sold.



WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
July 23 2015 06:44 GMT
#155
"Balanced budgets" are some of the most annoying buzzwords regardless. The only way any party balances a budget is with all kinds of accounting trickery.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16925 Posts
August 03 2015 16:46 GMT
#156
NDP in the lead...

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2015/08/03/ndp-surges-past-conservatives-liberals-in-latest-poll.html
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
August 03 2015 17:10 GMT
#157
Only real question is what kind of damage the Conservatives can do with their overwhelming campaign funds.

Of course, they've been spamming attack ads for the last two years anyway, so who knows if it'll make a difference.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 23:09:33
August 06 2015 23:09 GMT
#158
First leaders debate tonight.

PROBABLY the only one in english.

Two of 8 hours that Stephen Harper may be asked more than just 5 vetted questions in one day.

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11369 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-06 23:22:59
August 06 2015 23:20 GMT
#159
Is there going to be a livestream of the debate?
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
August 06 2015 23:37 GMT
#160
Live streamed by macleans, its on CPAC and all rogers radio AM stations.

https://www.youtube.com/user/MacleansMagazine
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
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