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drumandbass
Profile Joined June 2014
Hungary63 Posts
October 06 2014 12:50 GMT
#16901
What rotta said... Or you could just spoiler it or something...

Aaaanyway, for anyone who didn't come here to read YokoKano's whatever-it-is, here is some nice and chilled music for your pleasure.



also, me rambling on taking a break from dugs, hopefully more coherently and understandibly then our aforementioned friend:
+ Show Spoiler +
I'm on an unintended break this week (and potentially for longer), coz I simply don't have any money, but this time I realized it's not actually that bad of a thing. I usually find it very hard to concentrate on anything in the first couple of days of a break, but after a 100% chilled and 100% clean week, my mind is ready for sobriety, and I can actually feel the effects of drug overuse/abuse. After months (more like years in my case, probably) of spending more waking hours high then not, being sober is like a new drug. It makes me see things I didn't notice before, it is just as eye-opening and liberating as smoking a joint after a week's worth of work/school.
I guess as with all things in life, balance and ratio is key. Drugs should be used to 'alter your consciousness' not to create and maintain a new one. If you (like I do these days) feel the need to basically be constatly high on something, then the problem is bigger than something you can solve by calming your mind with a spliff and just thinking, or partying your brains out, high on whatever you can find.
So try new stuff (not drugs), something you have never done before (I started writing down some of the stories I've had in mind for years). Phisical excerise is extremely helpful as well (you know, sound mind, sound body and all that good stuff). I guarantee you that if/after you can overcome the initial 'withdrawal symptoms', anything that takes you out of the usual (the life-is-bad-so-get-high) mindset will have good effects similar to those of drug use, but without the bad parts we all feel, just usually don't admit.
And if you are a casual (well, I guess you could call it wiser) drug user, just remember the reason you got high in the first place, because I guarantee you, if you ever fall on the side of daily drug use, you WILL find reasons to get high you've never thought existed. Hell, after a point you don't need a reason, an occasion or company, only your preferred stuff. Most importantly remember, drugs are not the solution even though they can be very helpful.
Fuck, I'm actually starting to feel unfocused again, after writing like 15 lines of text... Gotta go and do something useful and creative.

+ Show Spoiler +
Well I guess it's not as coherent and 'clean' as I wanted it to be, but I think I managed to say what I wanted. Stay safe and responsible! peace


"... you put water in a cup, it becomes the cup; you put water into a bottle it becomes the bottle; you put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
October 06 2014 13:54 GMT
#16902
tycho is chill, and that is also the chillest album.
i thought it was called past is prologue though!

feels great to relax after you have been disciplined for a while,
provided that you are not being drowned by an absurd workload.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
Angryhorse
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden387 Posts
October 06 2014 21:34 GMT
#16903
Hey, searching for more trip-music and especially the music similar to Asura, Solar Fields, Tripswitch, Carbon Based Lifeforms, N'to. I know alot of people enjoy music like Spongle but I find them a bit to .. fucky?! Especially when you are fucking surfing through space on a painting of Jesus*.. haha (*read tripping balls)
In my experience CBL, Solar Fields etc really sit wells with most people tripping, so any more tips of similar music?
Carbon Based Lifeforms:
www.youtube.com
Solar Fields:
www.youtube.com

Blasted on some heavy indica? Give the music a try, you will enjoy it! Enjoy your life people!
Don't cry blood, the world doesn't revolve around you
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-06 22:47:12
October 06 2014 22:06 GMT
#16904
On October 07 2014 06:34 Angryhorse wrote:
Hey, searching for more trip-music and especially the music similar to Asura, Solar Fields, Tripswitch, Carbon Based Lifeforms, N'to. I know alot of people enjoy music like Spongle but I find them a bit to .. fucky?! Especially when you are fucking surfing through space on a painting of Jesus*.. haha (*read tripping balls)
In my experience CBL, Solar Fields etc really sit wells with most people tripping, so any more tips of similar music?
Carbon Based Lifeforms:
www.youtube.com
Solar Fields:
www.youtube.com

Blasted on some heavy indica? Give the music a try, you will enjoy it! Enjoy your life people!

pretty nice with headphones on
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
October 06 2014 23:44 GMT
#16905
On October 07 2014 06:34 Angryhorse wrote:
Hey, searching for more trip-music and especially the music similar to Asura, Solar Fields, Tripswitch, Carbon Based Lifeforms, N'to. I know alot of people enjoy music like Spongle but I find them a bit to .. fucky?! Especially when you are fucking surfing through space on a painting of Jesus*.. haha (*read tripping balls)
In my experience CBL, Solar Fields etc really sit wells with most people tripping, so any more tips of similar music?
Carbon Based Lifeforms:
www.youtube.com
Solar Fields:
www.youtube.com

Blasted on some heavy indica? Give the music a try, you will enjoy it! Enjoy your life people!

Emmaboda man
drumandbass
Profile Joined June 2014
Hungary63 Posts
October 07 2014 07:53 GMT
#16906
On October 07 2014 06:34 Angryhorse wrote:
Hey, searching for more trip-music and especially the music similar to Asura, Solar Fields, Tripswitch, Carbon Based Lifeforms, N'to. I know alot of people enjoy music like Spongle but I find them a bit to .. fucky?! Especially when you are fucking surfing through space on a painting of Jesus*.. haha (*read tripping balls)
In my experience CBL, Solar Fields etc really sit wells with most people tripping, so any more tips of similar music?
Carbon Based Lifeforms:
www.youtube.com
Solar Fields:
www.youtube.com

Blasted on some heavy indica? Give the music a try, you will enjoy it! Enjoy your life people!


Wow, Tripswitch is pretty nice, never heard of him before, thanks. If you are into a bit more 'tech-y' stuff, I also recommend Acces to Arasaka. And I know you said Spongle isn't exactly your thing, but you should still try pretty much everything Simon Posford was ever involved in, the guy is a genius. And I also found Younger Brother and Benji Vaughan while 'exploring his music'.
"... you put water in a cup, it becomes the cup; you put water into a bottle it becomes the bottle; you put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
October 07 2014 13:11 GMT
#16907
just imagine humans as intelligent monkeys...and go through the world liek this
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18838 Posts
October 07 2014 13:15 GMT
#16908
That certainly helped me in reading your blog.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-11 23:16:36
October 11 2014 23:15 GMT
#16909
I made a pipe out of an apple since I still haven't gotten around to replacing the bowl for my bong:

[image loading]

(used http://www.wikihow.com/Make-an-Apple-Pipe for reference)

It works... really well actually lol. My stopper even fits in perfectly at the bottom of the bowl at the top as you can see. Dunno why the picture embeds sideways; if you click the image it shows it upright on imgur.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Angryhorse
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden387 Posts
October 12 2014 10:31 GMT
#16910
On October 07 2014 16:53 drumandbass wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 06:34 Angryhorse wrote:
Hey, searching for more trip-music and especially the music similar to Asura, Solar Fields, Tripswitch, Carbon Based Lifeforms, N'to. I know alot of people enjoy music like Spongle but I find them a bit to .. fucky?! Especially when you are fucking surfing through space on a painting of Jesus*.. haha (*read tripping balls)
In my experience CBL, Solar Fields etc really sit wells with most people tripping, so any more tips of similar music?
Carbon Based Lifeforms:
www.youtube.com
Solar Fields:
www.youtube.com

Blasted on some heavy indica? Give the music a try, you will enjoy it! Enjoy your life people!


Wow, Tripswitch is pretty nice, never heard of him before, thanks. If you are into a bit more 'tech-y' stuff, I also recommend Acces to Arasaka. And I know you said Spongle isn't exactly your thing, but you should still try pretty much everything Simon Posford was ever involved in, the guy is a genius. And I also found Younger Brother and Benji Vaughan while 'exploring his music'.


Thank you for the recommendations man! Live long and prosper!
Don't cry blood, the world doesn't revolve around you
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
October 12 2014 15:28 GMT
#16911
Coming back from an amazing shroom trip. The spirals of numbers and cog wheels are still so clear in my head :o
YokoKano
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States612 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-19 16:31:53
October 18 2014 18:51 GMT
#16912
does the ancient chinese salt buddha represent a diplomatic failure. from a game theoretic standpoint i argue that it does from the wider perspective. #wataaaaaaa

#fire
IQ 155.905638752
Striker.superfreunde
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany1120 Posts
October 19 2014 21:04 GMT
#16913
Okay, you are allowed to stay. :x
But no more blog posts!!!

+ Show Spoiler [Warning, downer!] +
I`m feeling bad for posting here, because of the mexican drug war thread.
It`s a fucking shame i have to support the war, in one way or another, cause weed isn`t legalized yet.
'Your ak is pretty... uhm... dank!'
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
October 19 2014 21:25 GMT
#16914
yes, i agree, that's a big shame.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
DrCooper
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany261 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-19 22:04:00
October 19 2014 22:03 GMT
#16915
On October 20 2014 06:04 Striker.superfreunde wrote:
Okay, you are allowed to stay. :x
But no more blog posts!!!

+ Show Spoiler [Warning, downer!] +
I`m feeling bad for posting here, because of the mexican drug war thread.
It`s a fucking shame i have to support the war, in one way or another, cause weed isn`t legalized yet.

Well the odds that you buy weed from South America/Mexico is pretty small if you live in Europe. Except of course if you buy specifically weed from that region.
So cheer up and roll another joint
freewareplayer
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany403 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-19 22:18:19
October 19 2014 22:16 GMT
#16916
On October 20 2014 06:04 Striker.superfreunde wrote:
Okay, you are allowed to stay. :x
But no more blog posts!!!

+ Show Spoiler [Warning, downer!] +
I`m feeling bad for posting here, because of the mexican drug war thread.
It`s a fucking shame i have to support the war, in one way or another, cause weed isn`t legalized yet.

Dont feel bad, and its not a shame, at least not more than every other non smoking citizen should have. We all support murder in one way passively, ALL of us (few excpetion maybe). Coltan for example. But if its in everyday products that normal law abiding citizens use, then it is not worth informing people about.

Better keep telling Drug-Users they support the war the goverment starts by making it illegal lol. The shame is that provenly not working prohibition is still being upheld and people die for no reason.
YokoKano
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States612 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-20 18:07:49
October 20 2014 12:49 GMT
#16917
i think humanity's huge fail is not to combine eastern mind technology with the positive elements of christianity. basically "blind" cooperation although it seems stupid in the short run or in small sample sizes generates a lot of fat which is really what we need today in a world that is coming to recognize scarcity of mind-space. i think if there's a problem with the east it's that the culture of mind is so old that you've got guys using nth level gun-blade-armor instead of infinite-resource moonwells. imo you could have both; historically they're at odds but in theory the synergy is like nuclear fusion.

from a mind-space perspective "inexplicable" infinite-mana moonwells are scientifically speaking not much more difficult to explain than nth level gun-blade armor (basically returns to scope instead of returns to scale) or the sacred feminine (the west) vs the sacred masculine (the east). drugs and logical skepticism have basically destroyed the essentially feminine institution of faith in the universal application of higher ethics. this happened basically for the same reason that one-base was initially preferred to early expo. the practical reality of higher ethics takes a lot longer to develop (but is also potentially a lot stronger) than defection-based strategies. imo this explains the "fall" of christianity in the short-term as psychoactive drugs were introduced to the west, but predicts that the essential emergent principles of christianity will make a long term resurgence if a wise capitalist like gandalf jump starts it.

imo there is empirical evidence for this expectation if you look at the top of historically "black" pyramids: true black bosses like charles, vicious, arthur, and the godfather are basically evil but peaceful cat-like creatures. essentially we are asymptotically approaching some convergence of returns to scale and returns to scope that yields the cooperation equilibrium predicted by my analysis of the prisoner's dilemma. imo this is really important if we don't want the world to end on account of nukes or some bullshit in the short-run. scientific breakthrough is basically a short-run manifestation of humanity's long-term life expectancy which could accelerate rapidly. in turn this could result in major mind-related scientific breakthroughs in the short run that improved the life expectancy of our generation dramatically.

I guess what I'm arguing is that while I'm not 100% sure yet how to define the positive elements of Christian faith-based tech, I'm 100% sure that we got really unlucky that all the Christian mind-tech was completely at odds with our initial conception of empirical science and drug use. It's like the emergent properties of Christianity were such that at the time drugs came to the West drugs and Christianity were antithetical. Likewise with Christian politics and empirical science.

It was like saying all like Light-side Jedi who follow Master Windu also can't use a lightsaber. Naturally there was a huge backlash against this as drugs, especially "acid" rose in popularity. Also the popularity and influence of empirical science rapidly overtook development of what could be termed science of the mind.

Had the science of mind developed faster, I think there would have been much more harmony between drugs, science and Christianity. IMO the failure of the science of mind to develop at the same pace as what we term "empirical science" is the casual factor behind most tragedies of the 20th century.

Basically the east was going through "science tech shock" while the west was going through "mind and drug shock". Science tech killed Buddhism or something and drug and mind tech killed Christianity. So instead of the possible awesome synergy that could have occurred (think Final Fantasy), you ended up with a giant cluster fuck that imo continues to plague humanity.

Hmm so the most important point is that we rapidly develop a more cogent "science" of mind to justify the ancient superstitions and salvage all the potentially super powerful mind technology now deemed "irrational" or "unreasonable" when in fact a thorough understanding of mysticism could find all of the so-called superstitious elements completely explicable.

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it doesn't have to be this way, yo. da spirit bomb plzz
IQ 155.905638752
YokoKano
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States612 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-21 03:17:27
October 21 2014 03:11 GMT
#16918
attack strategy has a huge range like loose aggressive poker but at its essence it's information asymmetry abuse. this creates problematic societal memes that say, "attacking like this is polite and proper", attack all the time according to this schema but make sure not to actually reveal. (because if you reveal then you destroy the information asymmetry which the game depends upon). this sort of intelligence creates weird shadow prices that are potentially problematic. i guess you could say the problem is that you gain the upperhand until your opponent resigns instead of outright winning and achieving checkmate. thus many black styles suffer from the "limit" problem where the strategy asymptotically approaches a number but in fact ultimately stops short.

in other words, throw darts to open holes. the more you probe your opponent's mind the more likely you are to find holes in their game. naturally it's a lot easier to attack than to defend unless your style is really clean. thus jin from samurai champloo. opening holes isn't necessarily a plus because the temptation to exploit your edge leads to "sin" or behavior that damages society. there is the attitude that "if you're willing to behave in this way then i'm willing to go along with it so that your mistakes become clear". thus an abundance of cynicism leads to inefficiency not unlike that of blind faith.

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thus to be truly gosu at black one must play with the rigid code of the samurai. in my mind this is the east's biggest potential pitfall. attack style is in most cases exploitative and human ego and desire end up being its swan song. i think this is kind of an interesting analysis of how the idea of freeing oneself of egoistic desires often leads to sadism as a mode of helping others or masochism as a mode of freeing oneself. thus to be a true buddha one must first be a true yogi.

white isn't much different in this regard, and is probably more prone to an opposite sort of egoism. defensive style tends to establish very cut and dried rules and then attempts to adhere to or improve the rules. thus the style is very much ego oriented because it depends heavily on one's proficiency at living up to a generative rule set. while both styles create an unique form of intelligence defensive style is probably more prone to getting tied up in one's own devices and developing bias against those who don't follow one's ruleset while attack style is more prone to getting tied up in the knots of others or a reliance on having something to attack (a sort of ripple effect of attacking is that puncturing one point draws attention to that point to the exclusion of other points).\

i guess i would summarize that a black warrior shouldn't become a pin cushion and a white warrior shouldn't become a dry wall.

imo it's interesting how human language has evolved where black = attack and white = defense while in chess it's just the opposite. the parallel is that chess is a game of complete information where real life is a game of incomplete information.
IQ 155.905638752
CyDe
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States1010 Posts
November 02 2014 20:47 GMT
#16919
On October 12 2014 08:15 Grobyc wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I made a pipe out of an apple since I still haven't gotten around to replacing the bowl for my bong:

[image loading]

(used http://www.wikihow.com/Make-an-Apple-Pipe for reference)

It works... really well actually lol. My stopper even fits in perfectly at the bottom of the bowl at the top as you can see. Dunno why the picture embeds sideways; if you click the image it shows it upright on imgur.


Haha, the last time I posted in this thread, January 2013, I was still smoking out of apples. Now I got myself an Arizer Solo as well as a VaporGenie which I let my roommate use most of the time, haha. Brings back some memories.
Still feeling the effects of the two bowls I smoked in the early morning, also still feeling the Adderall I took yesterday. Time for some computer science, good thing I'm a god amongst men when I do it high .
youtube.com/GamingCyDe-- My totally abandoned youtube channel that I might revisit at some point
EngrishTeacher
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Canada1109 Posts
November 06 2014 02:29 GMT
#16920
All this progress being made in 'murica is really making people happy ^_^

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