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PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
June 16 2011 23:03 GMT
#10341
Sup all

I started smoking pot again after about 2 years off and it seems to be affecting my play lol.

Now before I started smoking again I was beating high masters on ladder ( i'm high diamond) and vsing mostly masters players. 3 weeeks later I have gone from rank 1 to rank 9 and am now vsing plats/diamonds (alot of plats).

So basicly in 3 weeks I have gone from being on the verge of getting promoted to masters compared to now where I seem to be closer to getting demoted to plat then ever getting to masters

I think I just forget to scout as much as i used to and my apm has defiantly dropped by about 40 lol




Does getting stoned and doing 1v1's effect anyone else's results in a positive or negative way?
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
June 16 2011 23:12 GMT
#10342
When SCII launched commercially I was smoking every day and when I would play before smoking I would do better than after smoking.

I think it is common to experience better results without the added complexity of cannabis affecting the nervous system and pleasure-feedback responses in the body.
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PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
June 17 2011 00:10 GMT
#10343
I've gotta re-learn sc2 stoned lol

Masters when sober, platinum when high.....

and

HAPPY BIRTHDAY Alabasern
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
Homard
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada92 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-17 00:16:05
June 17 2011 00:14 GMT
#10344
The problem you are encountering has a simple solution. Learn to play high and learn to play sober. It is two different things and your mind will be doing two different things high or sober. When I am high I tend to be dreamier and have big plans for a certain timing and focus a lot on those timings, but having a nagging thought to try and scout and counter what the opponent is doing. When I am sober I find it easy to scout and know what they are doing but my macro and timings are harder to reach.

Just the way I work and not sure if it will be the same for you.

So basically I hit sick timings while stoned and have better map/player awareness when sober but suck at timings.

Could you try to explain some of the mindset that you are in? Or is it some other type of problem?
Dronessssssd
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
June 17 2011 00:20 GMT
#10345
On June 16 2011 11:58 randommuch wrote:
If you put a light layer of syrup/honey on your wraps and then let them dry, you smoke candy flavored awesomeness.

plus it hides the smell nicely.

Idk if there's any bad side effects from it.. just feels like im eating pancakes everytime =)

I just went out to buy a pack of rollies to try this hehe. I'm just letting it dry now (I used syrup, got no honey). I'll let you guys know how it goes later
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
June 17 2011 00:45 GMT
#10346
On June 17 2011 09:14 Homard wrote:
The problem you are encountering has a simple solution. Learn to play high and learn to play sober. It is two different things and your mind will be doing two different things high or sober. When I am high I tend to be dreamier and have big plans for a certain timing and focus a lot on those timings, but having a nagging thought to try and scout and counter what the opponent is doing. When I am sober I find it easy to scout and know what they are doing but my macro and timings are harder to reach.

Just the way I work and not sure if it will be the same for you.

So basically I hit sick timings while stoned and have better map/player awareness when sober but suck at timings.

Could you try to explain some of the mindset that you are in? Or is it some other type of problem?



I think your right about having to learn to play high. When high sometimes i think im playing amazing and then as time goes by i realise that opps I havnt scouted for 10minutes or i havnt even been looking at my mini-map all game. I need to basicly remind myself while playing to do all the things i have already learnt to do lol.

Seems so weird coming to the conclusion that i need to learn to play high.

I used to only play FPS's and getting blazed didnt realy have any negative effect of my gameply. This proves how fucking awesome sc2 in terms of how much ur brain is actually processing when you play 1v1's

Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
CurLy[]
Profile Joined August 2010
United States759 Posts
June 17 2011 00:50 GMT
#10347
Yeah scouting while high is the hardest part. On the other hand my micro and special tactics are on point. sometimes my probe production slips but otherwise my macro is usually okay.

I usually do best like an hour after the smoke though
Great pasta mom, very Korean. Even my crown leans to the side. Gangsta. --------->
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-17 03:05:40
June 17 2011 03:05 GMT
#10348
I made peanut butter cookies with chocolate chips. They turned out fucking amazing, especially since I usually burn/undercook desserts I make. Those combined with syrup joint is going to be one hell of a good night

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If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
June 17 2011 03:05 GMT
#10349
On June 16 2011 21:46 muse5187 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 16:38 FragKrag wrote:
On June 16 2011 13:55 muse5187 wrote:
On June 16 2011 11:50 FragKrag wrote:
As far as benzos go I'm not aware of any glaring side effects, but as with any addictive drug, there's definitely a withdrawal period if you go without it for too long (which can be quite bad I've heard). I think some things like panic attacks or something can occur.

the only reasons to put screens in pipes is to either smoke kief/hash or to keep the ash from snapping into your mouth :<

I think brass sometimes does have lead in it as well.

You're not aware of any side effects? Have you taken those things? Glaring side effects include; Inability to think, inability to count past 10, amnesia, narcolepsy, last but not least complete retardation.


those arent side effects those are main effects


Show nested quote +
Side effects: Problems that occur when treatment goes beyond the desired effect. Or problems that occur in addition to the desired therapeutic effect.

http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=5489

How are any of those intended effects? Oh wait they aren't you just don't know the definition of the word you are using, which is pretty ridiculous seeing how common a word it is.


+ Show Spoiler +
Common Xanax Side Effects:

Check with your doctor if any of the following side effects continue or are bothersome:
Clumsiness or unsteadiness; dizziness or lightheadedness; drowsiness; slurred speech

Less Common or Rare Xanax Side Effects:

Check with your doctor if any of the following side effects continue or are bothersome:
Abdominal or stomach cramps or pain; blurred vision or other changes in vision; changes in sexual desire or ability; constipation; diarrhea; dryness of mouth or increased thirst; false sense of well-being; headache; increased bronchial secretions or watering of mouth; muscle spasm; nausea or vomiting; problems with urination; trembling or shaking; unusual tiredness or weakness

Always notify your doctor if you experience any of these Xanax side effects:

Less Common: Anxiety; confusion (may be more common in the elderly); fast, pounding, or irregular heartbeat; lack of memory of events taking place after another benzodiazepine is taken (may be more common with triazolam); mental depression
Rare: Abnormal thinking, including disorientation, delusions (holding false beliefs that cannot be changed by facts), or loss of sense of reality; agitation; behavior changes, including aggressive behavior, bizarre behavior, decreased inhibition, or outbursts of anger; convulsions (seizures); hallucinations (seeing, hearing, or feeling things that are not there); hypotension (low blood pressure); muscle weakness; skin rash or itching; sore throat, fever, and chills; trouble in sleeping; ulcers or sores in mouth or throat (continuing); uncontrolled movements of body, including the eyes; unusual bleeding or bruising; unusual excitement, nervousness, or irritability; unusual tiredness or weakness (severe); yellow eyes or skin

Xanax Withdrawal Side Effects - Notify Doctor:

More common: Irritability; nervousness; trouble in sleeping
Less common: Abdominal or stomach cramps; confusion; fast or pounding heartbeat; increased sense of hearing; increased sensitivity to touch and pain; increased sweating; loss of sense of reality; mental depression; muscle cramps; nausea or vomiting; sensitivity of eyes to light; tingling, burning, or prickly sensations; trembling or shaking

Rare - Notify doctor immediately: Confusion as to time, place, or person; convulsions (seizures); feelings of suspicion or distrust; hallucinations (seeing, hearing, or feeling things that are not there)

Xanax Overdose Effects - Notify Doctor Immediately:

Confusion (continuing); convulsions (seizures); drowsiness (severe) or coma; shakiness; slow heartbeat; slow reflexes; slurred speech (continuing) ; staggering; troubled breathing; weakness (severe)


Yep no side effects, except the 100+ listed on their website.


who in the high thread is using benzos to treat anything?
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
June 17 2011 03:10 GMT
#10350
those who are trying to treat their sobriety imo
Don't believe the florist when he tells you that the roses are free
randommuch
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States370 Posts
June 17 2011 03:31 GMT
#10351
On June 17 2011 09:20 Grobyc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 11:58 randommuch wrote:
If you put a light layer of syrup/honey on your wraps and then let them dry, you smoke candy flavored awesomeness.

plus it hides the smell nicely.

Idk if there's any bad side effects from it.. just feels like im eating pancakes everytime =)

I just went out to buy a pack of rollies to try this hehe. I'm just letting it dry now (I used syrup, got no honey). I'll let you guys know how it goes later


On June 17 2011 12:05 Grobyc wrote:
I made peanut butter cookies with chocolate chips. They turned out fucking amazing, especially since I usually burn/undercook desserts I make. Those combined with syrup joint is going to be one hell of a good night

[image loading]


<3 you :DDD
let me know if your experience with the magic stuff is as good tasting as it was with mine.
Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food." Genesis 1:29
muse5187
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
1125 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-17 04:32:35
June 17 2011 04:32 GMT
#10352
On June 17 2011 12:05 FragKrag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 21:46 muse5187 wrote:
On June 16 2011 16:38 FragKrag wrote:
On June 16 2011 13:55 muse5187 wrote:
On June 16 2011 11:50 FragKrag wrote:
As far as benzos go I'm not aware of any glaring side effects, but as with any addictive drug, there's definitely a withdrawal period if you go without it for too long (which can be quite bad I've heard). I think some things like panic attacks or something can occur.

the only reasons to put screens in pipes is to either smoke kief/hash or to keep the ash from snapping into your mouth :<

I think brass sometimes does have lead in it as well.

You're not aware of any side effects? Have you taken those things? Glaring side effects include; Inability to think, inability to count past 10, amnesia, narcolepsy, last but not least complete retardation.


those arent side effects those are main effects


Side effects: Problems that occur when treatment goes beyond the desired effect. Or problems that occur in addition to the desired therapeutic effect.

http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=5489

How are any of those intended effects? Oh wait they aren't you just don't know the definition of the word you are using, which is pretty ridiculous seeing how common a word it is.


+ Show Spoiler +
Common Xanax Side Effects:

Check with your doctor if any of the following side effects continue or are bothersome:
Clumsiness or unsteadiness; dizziness or lightheadedness; drowsiness; slurred speech

Less Common or Rare Xanax Side Effects:

Check with your doctor if any of the following side effects continue or are bothersome:
Abdominal or stomach cramps or pain; blurred vision or other changes in vision; changes in sexual desire or ability; constipation; diarrhea; dryness of mouth or increased thirst; false sense of well-being; headache; increased bronchial secretions or watering of mouth; muscle spasm; nausea or vomiting; problems with urination; trembling or shaking; unusual tiredness or weakness

Always notify your doctor if you experience any of these Xanax side effects:

Less Common: Anxiety; confusion (may be more common in the elderly); fast, pounding, or irregular heartbeat; lack of memory of events taking place after another benzodiazepine is taken (may be more common with triazolam); mental depression
Rare: Abnormal thinking, including disorientation, delusions (holding false beliefs that cannot be changed by facts), or loss of sense of reality; agitation; behavior changes, including aggressive behavior, bizarre behavior, decreased inhibition, or outbursts of anger; convulsions (seizures); hallucinations (seeing, hearing, or feeling things that are not there); hypotension (low blood pressure); muscle weakness; skin rash or itching; sore throat, fever, and chills; trouble in sleeping; ulcers or sores in mouth or throat (continuing); uncontrolled movements of body, including the eyes; unusual bleeding or bruising; unusual excitement, nervousness, or irritability; unusual tiredness or weakness (severe); yellow eyes or skin

Xanax Withdrawal Side Effects - Notify Doctor:

More common: Irritability; nervousness; trouble in sleeping
Less common: Abdominal or stomach cramps; confusion; fast or pounding heartbeat; increased sense of hearing; increased sensitivity to touch and pain; increased sweating; loss of sense of reality; mental depression; muscle cramps; nausea or vomiting; sensitivity of eyes to light; tingling, burning, or prickly sensations; trembling or shaking

Rare - Notify doctor immediately: Confusion as to time, place, or person; convulsions (seizures); feelings of suspicion or distrust; hallucinations (seeing, hearing, or feeling things that are not there)

Xanax Overdose Effects - Notify Doctor Immediately:

Confusion (continuing); convulsions (seizures); drowsiness (severe) or coma; shakiness; slow heartbeat; slow reflexes; slurred speech (continuing) ; staggering; troubled breathing; weakness (severe)


Yep no side effects, except the 100+ listed on their website.


who in the high thread is using benzos to treat anything?

Anyone who takes enough of that trash to achieve those effects is self medicating something. Doesn't change the context.
AeroGear
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada652 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-17 04:37:34
June 17 2011 04:36 GMT
#10353
Gaming skills while high/drunk is a parabola. Its really hard to judge (or stop at) the amount you need to hit the peak

Each game has a different parabola as well! SC2 or Quakelive/CSS require different amount.

One thing for sure, it sure as hell beats sober gaming, regardless of where you stand on the curve!


Edit: Those cookies look amazing btw! When I'm too lazy to split them into cookies, I just make one huge motherfucker with all the dough.
Driven by hate, fueled by rage
ZiegFeld
Profile Joined April 2011
351 Posts
June 17 2011 04:45 GMT
#10354
GM player here. Smoked weed, one weekend, went from rank 130ish to rank 48.

Stopped smoking the following week, now rank 140.

I don't know, just thought I'd share that.
randommuch
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States370 Posts
June 17 2011 17:36 GMT
#10355
irony
[image loading]
Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food." Genesis 1:29
iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
June 17 2011 17:38 GMT
#10356
^ lol.

I'm sooooooooo fucking high right now holy shit... imba weed i got...
SichuanPanda
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-17 17:47:24
June 17 2011 17:40 GMT
#10357
On June 18 2011 02:38 iNfeRnaL wrote:
^ lol.

I'm sooooooooo fucking high right now holy shit... imba weed i got...


Firing some Lemon Kush right now! Been smoking so long if I'm not high I suck at video games, Lol. I actually have to be high to play them good.


On June 17 2011 13:45 ZiegFeld wrote:
GM player here. Smoked weed, one weekend, went from rank 130ish to rank 48.

Stopped smoking the following week, now rank 140.

I don't know, just thought I'd share that.



For me I find it helps me to focus on the game and more importantly lets me get really into my micro and unit control (I guess you could say I trip out to my micro?). In any case when I'm not sober my mind runs a mile a minute and I have trouble concentrating on gaming in particular, as soon as I get high I forget everything else and only think of the task at hand.
i-bonjwa
Liight
Profile Joined March 2011
Iceland103 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-17 17:50:13
June 17 2011 17:48 GMT
#10358
Rofl at the pic above.

Anyway, was playing last night when i was higher than a kite, and i play zerg.
Wierdly enough the my opponents nickname was "420" something so i started talking to him at the start of the game..

and before i knew it i was at like 30 drones before i noticed i hadnt put down a pool or a hatch, derp.

Questoin: anyone ever played Portal2 on ps3 while baked? that shit is insane.
It's been interesting.
Zeburial
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden1126 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-17 23:35:54
June 17 2011 23:35 GMT
#10359
As a regular smoker myself, I just took a week off from smoking to lower my tolerance a bit and tonight one of my dealers just got some very nice (and very very potent) afghan hash. Holy mama, this is going to be an evening filled with joy. ^^
Empires are not brought down by outside forces - they are destroyed by weaknesses from within
Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
June 17 2011 23:38 GMT
#10360
On June 17 2011 09:10 Za7oX wrote:
I've gotta re-learn sc2 stoned lol

Masters when sober, platinum when high.....

and

HAPPY BIRTHDAY Alabasern


Thank you! My family and I are having a steak dinner, with caramelized onions/mushrooms, a hearty salad, baked whole wheat loaf, and a cocoa cake for dessert. I'm satisfied.
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