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frontgarden2222
Profile Joined June 2024
58 Posts
July 14 2024 05:02 GMT
#27761
A lot of governments regardless of political persuasion are actually OK with illegal immigration. Just so long they benefit the state economically and they're not visible, like at the "employment" of big farmers.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26225 Posts
July 14 2024 09:17 GMT
#27762
On July 14 2024 14:02 frontgarden2222 wrote:
A lot of governments regardless of political persuasion are actually OK with illegal immigration. Just so long they benefit the state economically and they're not visible, like at the "employment" of big farmers.

As do the industries that benefit, and almost certainly lobby in this direction. Although not openly given it’s not exactly a particularly popular political position in this climate.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Razyda
Profile Joined March 2013
896 Posts
July 25 2024 01:35 GMT
#27763
https://coinedition.com/eus-controversial-asset-registry-proposal-sparks-privacy-debate/#:~:text=The European Union is exploring,on privacy and data protection.

"The European Union is exploring a controversial proposal to establish a centralized “Asset Register,” a comprehensive database designed to track citizens’ assets across the bloc. This initiative aims to combat money laundering and terrorist financing, but has also raised concerns on privacy and data protection.

The proposed register would encompass a wide range of assets, such as real estate, bank accounts, securities, vehicles, art, and precious metals. The final list will be determined based on the outcomes of a feasibility study and subsequent legislative decisions."

Congrats on winning cold war
r00ty
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1061 Posts
July 25 2024 07:09 GMT
#27764
Why do i feel dumber after reading this article? Oh it's crypto bro news.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12009 Posts
August 12 2024 17:10 GMT
#27765
How does France and other European nations finance nuclear power plants? The investigations I see mostly seem to say that you need to offer price guarantees and favorable loans to get anybody to build and run them.
areoryn
Profile Joined August 2024
5 Posts
August 13 2024 07:01 GMT
#27766
On August 13 2024 02:10 Yurie wrote:
How does France and other European nations finance nuclear power plants? The investigations I see mostly seem to say that you need to offer price guarantees and favorable loans to get anybody to build and run them.


Basically, state financed.

France currently has ~20 nuclear power plants active (up to 58 reactors), all of them built between 1978 and 1998, which provide ~70% of the powergrid energy. All of those where built by EDF, state power supply company who had the monopoly of the market until 2000. EDF payed for the power plants, with the state backing it.

Since 2007, European directives have kind of opened the market and EDF's market share is down to ~70%. EDF was publicly traded for a while (2003?) with a state share down to 84%, but when back to full state ownership recently following a buyout (2022).

Buyout was made around the time when the government decided to build a new set of nuclear power plants (project started end 2022/early 2023). So the new power plants that are planned / being built have roughly the same financing structure as the previous ones: EDF paying for them through bank loans, backed by the state.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23600 Posts
October 12 2024 17:18 GMT
#27767
With the increasingly likely probability that Trump wins in November, I find myself wondering what Europeans are planning if Trump is the fascist dictator many believe him to be.

How fascist can the US get before Europeans demand their politicians cut off relations/start sanctions/etc?

Or does Europe just follow Trump's lead?

"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22065 Posts
October 12 2024 17:23 GMT
#27768
On October 13 2024 02:18 GreenHorizons wrote:
With the increasingly likely probability that Trump wins in November, I find myself wondering what Europeans are planning if Trump is the fascist dictator many believe him to be.

How fascist can the US get before Europeans demand their politicians cut off relations/start sanctions/etc?

Or does Europe just follow Trump's lead?
Just look at how the EU deals with China?
cutting of relations isn't really an option unless you want to completely blow up your own economy.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23600 Posts
October 12 2024 17:47 GMT
#27769
On October 13 2024 02:23 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2024 02:18 GreenHorizons wrote:
With the increasingly likely probability that Trump wins in November, I find myself wondering what Europeans are planning if Trump is the fascist dictator many believe him to be.

How fascist can the US get before Europeans demand their politicians cut off relations/start sanctions/etc?

Or does Europe just follow Trump's lead?
Just look at how the EU deals with China?
cutting of relations isn't really an option unless you want to completely blow up your own economy.

That perspective provides an interesting conundrum if Trump and Putin are as aligned as many would suggest.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10135 Posts
October 12 2024 19:21 GMT
#27770
On October 13 2024 02:47 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2024 02:23 Gorsameth wrote:
On October 13 2024 02:18 GreenHorizons wrote:
With the increasingly likely probability that Trump wins in November, I find myself wondering what Europeans are planning if Trump is the fascist dictator many believe him to be.

How fascist can the US get before Europeans demand their politicians cut off relations/start sanctions/etc?

Or does Europe just follow Trump's lead?
Just look at how the EU deals with China?
cutting of relations isn't really an option unless you want to completely blow up your own economy.

That perspective provides an interesting conundrum if Trump and Putin are as aligned as many would suggest.

Interesting is quite a funny way to call it. Nothing about It is interesting, just fuck up.
ZeroByte13
Profile Joined March 2022
781 Posts
October 12 2024 19:40 GMT
#27771
On October 13 2024 02:18 GreenHorizons wrote:
With the increasingly likely probability that Trump wins in November, I find myself wondering what Europeans are planning if Trump is the fascist dictator many believe him to be.
Does this probability really become increasingly likely, that Trump wins? I don't really follow US pre-election race but from what I heard here and there, people say Harris is ahead in polls?
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22065 Posts
October 12 2024 19:44 GMT
#27772
On October 13 2024 04:40 ZeroByte13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2024 02:18 GreenHorizons wrote:
With the increasingly likely probability that Trump wins in November, I find myself wondering what Europeans are planning if Trump is the fascist dictator many believe him to be.
Does this probability really become increasingly likely, that Trump wins? I don't really follow US pre-election race but from what I heard here and there, people say Harris is ahead in polls?
no, but GH is going to GH.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28736 Posts
October 12 2024 19:54 GMT
#27773
On October 13 2024 04:40 ZeroByte13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2024 02:18 GreenHorizons wrote:
With the increasingly likely probability that Trump wins in November, I find myself wondering what Europeans are planning if Trump is the fascist dictator many believe him to be.
Does this probability really become increasingly likely, that Trump wins? I don't really follow US pre-election race but from what I heard here and there, people say Harris is ahead in polls?


Ahead in national polls, but the electoral college is at best a flip.
Moderator
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12382 Posts
October 12 2024 19:57 GMT
#27774
The polls are basically useless, every (true) swing state has had polls going in every direction by now. There are now a lot of partisan pollsters in the average, and regardless you can't really poll a representative sample of people anymore because the average person won't answer the phone.

There are some other factors that look good for her, I still think she's going to win. But I like the narrative that she loses support for running as a republican so I'm tempted to pretend I find value in the polls. It also should never be this close considering who she's running against, and on that alone everyone at Future Forward should be fired and I should be given all of their jobs and their salaries
No will to live, no wish to die
ZeroByte13
Profile Joined March 2022
781 Posts
October 12 2024 20:07 GMT
#27775
You can have all their jobs alright, but I want all their salaries, thank you very much.
My wife somehow keeps finding things she wants to buy...
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23600 Posts
October 12 2024 20:45 GMT
#27776
On October 13 2024 04:21 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2024 02:47 GreenHorizons wrote:
On October 13 2024 02:23 Gorsameth wrote:
On October 13 2024 02:18 GreenHorizons wrote:
With the increasingly likely probability that Trump wins in November, I find myself wondering what Europeans are planning if Trump is the fascist dictator many believe him to be.

How fascist can the US get before Europeans demand their politicians cut off relations/start sanctions/etc?

Or does Europe just follow Trump's lead?
Just look at how the EU deals with China?
cutting of relations isn't really an option unless you want to completely blow up your own economy.

That perspective provides an interesting conundrum if Trump and Putin are as aligned as many would suggest.

Interesting is quite a funny way to call it. Nothing about It is interesting, just fuck up.

So it seems Europeans are just not really considering the about 50-50 shot they have a US president that gets along better with Putin than some of them in 4 months.

I mean if he loses no problem, but if he wins, seems like some stuff people should have thought through for a bit before being confronted with it.

Clearly there isn't a plan, or even concepts of a plan.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22065 Posts
October 12 2024 20:54 GMT
#27777
On October 13 2024 05:45 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2024 04:21 Godwrath wrote:
On October 13 2024 02:47 GreenHorizons wrote:
On October 13 2024 02:23 Gorsameth wrote:
On October 13 2024 02:18 GreenHorizons wrote:
With the increasingly likely probability that Trump wins in November, I find myself wondering what Europeans are planning if Trump is the fascist dictator many believe him to be.

How fascist can the US get before Europeans demand their politicians cut off relations/start sanctions/etc?

Or does Europe just follow Trump's lead?
Just look at how the EU deals with China?
cutting of relations isn't really an option unless you want to completely blow up your own economy.

That perspective provides an interesting conundrum if Trump and Putin are as aligned as many would suggest.

Interesting is quite a funny way to call it. Nothing about It is interesting, just fuck up.

So it seems Europeans are just not really considering the about 50-50 shot they have a US president that gets along better with Putin than some of them in 4 months.

I mean if he loses no problem, but if he wins, seems like some stuff people should have thought through for a bit before being confronted with it.

Clearly there isn't a plan, or even concepts of a plan.
yes, people on a 23 year old Starcraft site have correctly told you that EU leaders have no plan for Trumps potential win.

Because we all know that starcraft nerds are the ultimate trove of knowledge about top level confidential political strategy...


It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15359 Posts
October 12 2024 21:11 GMT
#27778
Clearly us Europeans all know each other so we should be able to tell what they have planned in Paris and Berlin.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7953 Posts
October 12 2024 21:15 GMT
#27779
On October 13 2024 04:54 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2024 04:40 ZeroByte13 wrote:
On October 13 2024 02:18 GreenHorizons wrote:
With the increasingly likely probability that Trump wins in November, I find myself wondering what Europeans are planning if Trump is the fascist dictator many believe him to be.
Does this probability really become increasingly likely, that Trump wins? I don't really follow US pre-election race but from what I heard here and there, people say Harris is ahead in polls?


Ahead in national polls, but the electoral college is at best a flip.

Both Silver Bulletin and 538 give Harris around 55% to win the electoral college.

Those are two very close models, they might have the same flaws. And we still have a few more weeks of campaigning to go.

Still 55% is an odd a poker player would take every day of the week.

It’s going to be very, very close, it looks like. I understand why some folks would not vote for Harris, but I am absolutely baffled almost half of American voters would still trust Trump with the job. That’s completely insane.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7953 Posts
October 12 2024 21:26 GMT
#27780
On October 13 2024 05:45 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2024 04:21 Godwrath wrote:
On October 13 2024 02:47 GreenHorizons wrote:
On October 13 2024 02:23 Gorsameth wrote:
On October 13 2024 02:18 GreenHorizons wrote:
With the increasingly likely probability that Trump wins in November, I find myself wondering what Europeans are planning if Trump is the fascist dictator many believe him to be.

How fascist can the US get before Europeans demand their politicians cut off relations/start sanctions/etc?

Or does Europe just follow Trump's lead?
Just look at how the EU deals with China?
cutting of relations isn't really an option unless you want to completely blow up your own economy.

That perspective provides an interesting conundrum if Trump and Putin are as aligned as many would suggest.

Interesting is quite a funny way to call it. Nothing about It is interesting, just fuck up.

So it seems Europeans are just not really considering the about 50-50 shot they have a US president that gets along better with Putin than some of them in 4 months.

I mean if he loses no problem, but if he wins, seems like some stuff people should have thought through for a bit before being confronted with it.

Clearly there isn't a plan, or even concepts of a plan.

I would think Europeans leaders are probably thinking / discussing what their strategy will be if that happens. I think a lot has changed in european capitals already after 2016 in terms of how much the US are perceived as an ally that can be trusted.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
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