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Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
August 07 2014 19:42 GMT
#601
"That was crowd noise getting flagged, not music."

In reference to the DOTA 2 vids getting flagged.

Dear god. Next they will start flagging people who talk when they stream. "Sounds too much like artist x".
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ | ┻━┻ ︵╰(°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
August 07 2014 19:44 GMT
#602
I really like seeing all the communities, us, Dota, League, FGC, speed runners, united in this.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 07 2014 19:46 GMT
#603
On August 08 2014 04:44 c0ldfusion wrote:
I really like seeing all the communities, us, Dota, League, FGC, speed runners, united in this.

Unite to complaint about VoDs we weren't really watching breaking? I mean, the crowd noise issue was fixed already, so it sounds like most of the problems are being dealt with very quickly. This isn't really as big of a deal as people are making it out to be.

But people love dat drama.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Kurr
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2338 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-07 19:50:56
August 07 2014 19:50 GMT
#604
On August 08 2014 04:46 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2014 04:44 c0ldfusion wrote:
I really like seeing all the communities, us, Dota, League, FGC, speed runners, united in this.

Unite to complaint about VoDs we weren't really watching breaking? I mean, the crowd noise issue was fixed already, so it sounds like most of the problems are being dealt with very quickly. This isn't really as big of a deal as people are making it out to be.

But people love dat drama.


You keep saying that but you didn't have an answer when I said ~70% of my twitch usage was VODs.

Or how we will get to watch 100s of older tournaments now? SC2, DOTA, LoL, CSGO, MTG, etc etc. Stream marathons? Gone. Speedrun events? Gone.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ | ┻━┻ ︵╰(°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-07 19:58:32
August 07 2014 19:58 GMT
#605
Regardless of how/if the current controversies get resolved, I think we can all agree that we all benefit from competition in this space.
Tosstriss
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada334 Posts
August 07 2014 19:58 GMT
#606
On August 08 2014 04:50 Kurr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2014 04:46 Plansix wrote:
On August 08 2014 04:44 c0ldfusion wrote:
I really like seeing all the communities, us, Dota, League, FGC, speed runners, united in this.

Unite to complaint about VoDs we weren't really watching breaking? I mean, the crowd noise issue was fixed already, so it sounds like most of the problems are being dealt with very quickly. This isn't really as big of a deal as people are making it out to be.

But people love dat drama.


You keep saying that but you didn't have an answer when I said ~70% of my twitch usage was VODs.

Or how we will get to watch 100s of older tournaments now? SC2, DOTA, LoL, CSGO, MTG, etc etc. Stream marathons? Gone. Speedrun events? Gone.

Usually the Speedrun events and major tournaments post their videos on Youtube. So you are able to watch them, it's going to be the random streams where they just play games with no highlights in the session.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 07 2014 19:59 GMT
#607
On August 08 2014 04:50 Kurr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2014 04:46 Plansix wrote:
On August 08 2014 04:44 c0ldfusion wrote:
I really like seeing all the communities, us, Dota, League, FGC, speed runners, united in this.

Unite to complaint about VoDs we weren't really watching breaking? I mean, the crowd noise issue was fixed already, so it sounds like most of the problems are being dealt with very quickly. This isn't really as big of a deal as people are making it out to be.

But people love dat drama.


You keep saying that but you didn't have an answer when I said ~70% of my twitch usage was VODs.

Or how we will get to watch 100s of older tournaments now? SC2, DOTA, LoL, CSGO, MTG, etc etc. Stream marathons? Gone. Speedrun events? Gone.

That is sad, but from twitch's point of view its a pure business decision and that storage was likely costing them a lot with little return. And as long as the stuff was flagged as a highlight, it won't be deleted. The new two our limit is only on new stuff. The process of deleting hasn't even started yet, so people have time to flag their stuff. The only way you will miss out of things is if the people who recorded the broadcast don't flag it as a highlight in the next three weeks.

I would rather companies provide services they can afford, rather than give us the moon and then go out of business one day and we lose everything.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
August 07 2014 20:01 GMT
#608
Back to the namesake topic

optimizeprime wrote
We did need to change things. This is laying groundwork for some work in the future you guys are REALLY going to like.


He is hinting at something interested
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
August 07 2014 21:01 GMT
#609
I still think this is a wake-up call of sorts.

We should give other stream services a chance, whether it's livestream or hitbox.tv or something else.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 07 2014 21:05 GMT
#610
I sort of agree with TB on this one and folks should have seen this coming. Unlimited VOD storage was not going go happen forever and the same with being able to place licensed music. It will happen to every service no matter who they are, because its how copyright works. People are going to have to pick what they want to keep, rather than just save everything like pack rats.

And all the other streaming services are kinda trash or shady. Hitbox might be ok, but I don't trust the folks from Owned until they have proven they can pay people.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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chiflutz
Profile Joined June 2006
Romania1025 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-07 21:18:08
August 07 2014 21:17 GMT
#611
I don't really know/care about the Owned CEO controversy, but tech-wise hitbox is miles ahead of the old Owned and quite a bit ahead of twitch, worldwide server coverage notwithstanding (although they said on their blog that they do have a worldwide network set up).

It'd be a shame if it turned out to be the same person's moneygrabbing scheme all over again.
kt violet Korea (South). July 27 2012 15:54. Posts 23
Lonyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United Kingdom3884 Posts
August 07 2014 21:27 GMT
#612
On August 08 2014 06:17 chiflutz wrote:
I don't really know/care about the Owned CEO controversy, but tech-wise hitbox is miles ahead of the old Owned and quite a bit ahead of twitch, worldwide server coverage notwithstanding (although they said on their blog that they do have a worldwide network set up).

It'd be a shame if it turned out to be the same person's moneygrabbing scheme all over again.

Apparently it's the guy who took over as CEO of Own3d after all the crap had started going wrong, and was trying to sort it out, and not the guy who started Own3d and made everything go tits up. Apparently. Unsourced (Reddit).
HOLY CHECK!
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27265 Posts
August 07 2014 21:38 GMT
#613
I'm more concerned about the VoD change. Makes sense and it will remove a lot of stress on the servers but I hope there aren't a bunch of classic tournaments etc lost forever because they forgot/were unable to get the VoDs chopped up.

The music industry had long since had my sympathies since they started paying these companies to implement scorched earth automated flagging etc. I'm not against flagging as a concept, but this implementation is horrible.

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
August 07 2014 21:46 GMT
#614
[image loading]

So hard
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
August 07 2014 21:58 GMT
#615
On August 08 2014 06:46 Disregard wrote:
[image loading]

So hard

Wow. I get his point, but way to stay classy.
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Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2806 Posts
August 07 2014 22:33 GMT
#616
On August 08 2014 04:59 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2014 04:50 Kurr wrote:
On August 08 2014 04:46 Plansix wrote:
On August 08 2014 04:44 c0ldfusion wrote:
I really like seeing all the communities, us, Dota, League, FGC, speed runners, united in this.

Unite to complaint about VoDs we weren't really watching breaking? I mean, the crowd noise issue was fixed already, so it sounds like most of the problems are being dealt with very quickly. This isn't really as big of a deal as people are making it out to be.

But people love dat drama.


You keep saying that but you didn't have an answer when I said ~70% of my twitch usage was VODs.

Or how we will get to watch 100s of older tournaments now? SC2, DOTA, LoL, CSGO, MTG, etc etc. Stream marathons? Gone. Speedrun events? Gone.

That is sad, but from twitch's point of view its a pure business decision and that storage was likely costing them a lot with little return. And as long as the stuff was flagged as a highlight, it won't be deleted. The new two our limit is only on new stuff. The process of deleting hasn't even started yet, so people have time to flag their stuff. The only way you will miss out of things is if the people who recorded the broadcast don't flag it as a highlight in the next three weeks.

I would rather companies provide services they can afford, rather than give us the moon and then go out of business one day and we lose everything.


Them not properly monetizing vods really, really doesn't seem like a reason to remove them. An advertisement plays at the beginning of every stream or vod, and I think you grossly underestimate how much of twitch's use came through VoDs. I personally probably spend 30% of my time on twitch watching VoDs.

If I had to put my future-predicting pants on, I'd expect a great google merger that allows you to have your twitch, youtube, google+ and everything associated with google all linked under a single profile. So VoDs won't be "gone", just the "highlight" button will change to "highlight to youtube" or something similar.

A streamer I follow has a pretty good attitude towards all of this, though. "Give twitch a week. If it's still awful, or if it's worse in a week, let's start looking for alternatives. To get so fired up about a couple obvious mistakes seems both premature and immature"
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 07 2014 22:36 GMT
#617
On August 08 2014 06:58 Myles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2014 06:46 Disregard wrote:
[image loading]

So hard

Wow. I get his point, but way to stay classy.

This was my favorite comment from the AMA. The person asking the question was such a troll through the whole thing and this sort of comeback is awesome.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
August 07 2014 22:40 GMT
#618
On August 08 2014 06:46 Disregard wrote:
[image loading]

So hard

Can't find that anywhere on reddit. Did he delete his comment?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 07 2014 22:44 GMT
#619
On August 08 2014 07:40 Conti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2014 06:46 Disregard wrote:
[image loading]

So hard

Can't find that anywhere on reddit. Did he delete his comment?

He changed it to "Statements phrased as questions are still Statements"
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
August 07 2014 22:47 GMT
#620
On August 08 2014 06:58 Myles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2014 06:46 Disregard wrote:
[image loading]

So hard

Wow. I get his point, but way to stay classy.


Not really his fault that the classic question for that fallacy is a bit crass.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
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