EPTIn reference to the DOTA 2 vids getting flagged.
Dear god. Next they will start flagging people who talk when they stream. "Sounds too much like artist x".
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Kurr
Canada2338 Posts
In reference to the DOTA 2 vids getting flagged. Dear god. Next they will start flagging people who talk when they stream. "Sounds too much like artist x". | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 08 2014 04:44 c0ldfusion wrote: I really like seeing all the communities, us, Dota, League, FGC, speed runners, united in this. Unite to complaint about VoDs we weren't really watching breaking? I mean, the crowd noise issue was fixed already, so it sounds like most of the problems are being dealt with very quickly. This isn't really as big of a deal as people are making it out to be. But people love dat drama. | ||
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Kurr
Canada2338 Posts
On August 08 2014 04:46 Plansix wrote: Unite to complaint about VoDs we weren't really watching breaking? I mean, the crowd noise issue was fixed already, so it sounds like most of the problems are being dealt with very quickly. This isn't really as big of a deal as people are making it out to be. But people love dat drama. You keep saying that but you didn't have an answer when I said ~70% of my twitch usage was VODs. Or how we will get to watch 100s of older tournaments now? SC2, DOTA, LoL, CSGO, MTG, etc etc. Stream marathons? Gone. Speedrun events? Gone. | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
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Tosstriss
Canada334 Posts
On August 08 2014 04:50 Kurr wrote: You keep saying that but you didn't have an answer when I said ~70% of my twitch usage was VODs. Or how we will get to watch 100s of older tournaments now? SC2, DOTA, LoL, CSGO, MTG, etc etc. Stream marathons? Gone. Speedrun events? Gone. Usually the Speedrun events and major tournaments post their videos on Youtube. So you are able to watch them, it's going to be the random streams where they just play games with no highlights in the session. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 08 2014 04:50 Kurr wrote: You keep saying that but you didn't have an answer when I said ~70% of my twitch usage was VODs. Or how we will get to watch 100s of older tournaments now? SC2, DOTA, LoL, CSGO, MTG, etc etc. Stream marathons? Gone. Speedrun events? Gone. That is sad, but from twitch's point of view its a pure business decision and that storage was likely costing them a lot with little return. And as long as the stuff was flagged as a highlight, it won't be deleted. The new two our limit is only on new stuff. The process of deleting hasn't even started yet, so people have time to flag their stuff. The only way you will miss out of things is if the people who recorded the broadcast don't flag it as a highlight in the next three weeks. I would rather companies provide services they can afford, rather than give us the moon and then go out of business one day and we lose everything. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
optimizeprime wrote We did need to change things. This is laying groundwork for some work in the future you guys are REALLY going to like. He is hinting at something interested | ||
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c0ldfusion
United States8293 Posts
We should give other stream services a chance, whether it's livestream or hitbox.tv or something else. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
And all the other streaming services are kinda trash or shady. Hitbox might be ok, but I don't trust the folks from Owned until they have proven they can pay people. | ||
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chiflutz
Romania1025 Posts
It'd be a shame if it turned out to be the same person's moneygrabbing scheme all over again. | ||
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
On August 08 2014 06:17 chiflutz wrote: I don't really know/care about the Owned CEO controversy, but tech-wise hitbox is miles ahead of the old Owned and quite a bit ahead of twitch, worldwide server coverage notwithstanding (although they said on their blog that they do have a worldwide network set up). It'd be a shame if it turned out to be the same person's moneygrabbing scheme all over again. Apparently it's the guy who took over as CEO of Own3d after all the crap had started going wrong, and was trying to sort it out, and not the guy who started Own3d and made everything go tits up. Apparently. Unsourced (Reddit). | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27262 Posts
The music industry had long since had my sympathies since they started paying these companies to implement scorched earth automated flagging etc. I'm not against flagging as a concept, but this implementation is horrible. | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/hpJIQIa.png) So hard | ||
Myles
United States5162 Posts
On August 08 2014 06:46 Disregard wrote: So hard Wow. I get his point, but way to stay classy. | ||
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Fleetfeet
Canada2806 Posts
On August 08 2014 04:59 Plansix wrote: That is sad, but from twitch's point of view its a pure business decision and that storage was likely costing them a lot with little return. And as long as the stuff was flagged as a highlight, it won't be deleted. The new two our limit is only on new stuff. The process of deleting hasn't even started yet, so people have time to flag their stuff. The only way you will miss out of things is if the people who recorded the broadcast don't flag it as a highlight in the next three weeks. I would rather companies provide services they can afford, rather than give us the moon and then go out of business one day and we lose everything. Them not properly monetizing vods really, really doesn't seem like a reason to remove them. An advertisement plays at the beginning of every stream or vod, and I think you grossly underestimate how much of twitch's use came through VoDs. I personally probably spend 30% of my time on twitch watching VoDs. If I had to put my future-predicting pants on, I'd expect a great google merger that allows you to have your twitch, youtube, google+ and everything associated with google all linked under a single profile. So VoDs won't be "gone", just the "highlight" button will change to "highlight to youtube" or something similar. A streamer I follow has a pretty good attitude towards all of this, though. "Give twitch a week. If it's still awful, or if it's worse in a week, let's start looking for alternatives. To get so fired up about a couple obvious mistakes seems both premature and immature" | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 08 2014 06:58 Myles wrote: Wow. I get his point, but way to stay classy. This was my favorite comment from the AMA. The person asking the question was such a troll through the whole thing and this sort of comeback is awesome. | ||
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On August 08 2014 06:46 Disregard wrote: So hard Can't find that anywhere on reddit. Did he delete his comment? | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 08 2014 07:40 Conti wrote: Can't find that anywhere on reddit. Did he delete his comment? He changed it to "Statements phrased as questions are still Statements" | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On August 08 2014 06:58 Myles wrote: Wow. I get his point, but way to stay classy. Not really his fault that the classic question for that fallacy is a bit crass. | ||
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