EPTWhy is this legal ?? - Page 3
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besiger
Croatia2452 Posts
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Hysterisk
Sweden128 Posts
On October 08 2006 07:25 BlackJack wrote: An unconcious person doesn't have an understanding of its nakedness either. Neither will they be humiliated. "No, because I dont believe humans and animals are the same" Oh, now it's okay to legislate our beliefs. No, because humans fall under morale in every sense, whereas animals dont. Its wrong to rape, molest and kill humans. You could molest a human when the person is unconsious, you can kill a human and get away with it, but its both illegal and morally wrong. Animals however are killed an eaten all the time. And if you stroke a dog, not only will it not care, but even if it did it would still be just a dog if the dog dont want to be owned, walked around on a leash or molested, what do people care? The dog isnt a fucking human. | ||
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Hysterisk
Sweden128 Posts
On October 08 2006 07:30 BeSiGeR wrote: i would say i am against fucking animals, and im totaly antireligious too, so its got nothing to do with that, and for eating animals, its natural, if i would not eat a cow, some other animal would, on the other hand in nature only a sheep will fuck a sheep, wolfs will eat the sheep but wont fuck them. Even if you call youself an atheist, every aspect of what you consider morale is religious morale. In europe and america, morale based on christian values. And no matter my arguments you will always believe fucking animals is wrong, because of this morale, because of what you feel in your heart. You cant win an argument over a person who believes himself to be morally justified. And I dont really want you to change your mind, Im just explaining the logic behind having animalsex legal in certain countries. | ||
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besiger
Croatia2452 Posts
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besiger
Croatia2452 Posts
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
On October 08 2006 07:31 Hysterisk wrote:And if you stroke a dog, not only will it not care, but even if it did it would still be just a dog if the dog dont want to be owned, walked around on a leash or molested, what do people care? The dog isnt a fucking human. Get help. | ||
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Hysterisk
Sweden128 Posts
On October 08 2006 07:29 ToT)Testie( wrote: ............................................................................................................. What are you people retarded? How can long posts be made about this? Zizou, not only are you high but you defended NAMBLA in your post basically. Go stab your penis. Pedofiles DO need to be locked up. FOR LIFE IF THEY EVER, EVEN ONCE OFFEND. If you have any fatherly feelings at all, you would agree. Animal fuckers. 1. IT'S FUCKING SICK 2. No one wants to fuck a human who regularily visits the animal brothel 3. IT'S FUCKING SICK 4. What are you mother fuckers, bat shit crazy? It is simply wrong to fuck, kill, hurt, animals. We kill them for survival. Yes there are some extreme cases, but the majority of animal slaughter isn't what PETA shows. What do we fuck them for? Because you're too ugly to get laid? Fuck you, fuck an ugly person. 5. I'm not wasting my time debating ethics of this. I'm not being one of those mindless anti-abortionists either. Here's what i'm going to leave you with. If you do not know that this is wrong and sick, you sir may be a psychopath, sociopath, or have lost all touch with reality. This is a good argument, he clearly makes it know that he thinks fucking animals is wrong. I talked to this american guy once and he thought gaysex was wrong. His and this persons argument looked somewhat similar. | ||
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
If a doggy wants a lil wee wee loving, I'll give it to him~ He loves me, I love him back. Plus, come on~ you live in a capitalist society, if there is a demand, someone will supply and make money off it. Animal sex seems completely a great way to make some cash to me. Oh man... that was supposed to come out sarcastic but didn't come out as nice. Anyways, I too am rather disturbed by the thoughts of animal sex, but I am smart enough to know that sex does not constituate harm in any way of the physical nature. Therefore, it is morally incorrect in my views, to restrict or limit it's actions. So you can fuck animals in my world, as long as it isn't some hardcore bondage shit. Sheep might not dig the whole leather thing... | ||
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Hysterisk
Sweden128 Posts
On October 08 2006 07:37 BeSiGeR wrote: its not so much moral, but sympathy, i like animals and dont want them to suffer just so people can get kicks out of it, i once saw a retard set a dog on fire just for fun, thinking, hey its only a dog, that kind of thinking discusts me Dont get me wrong, I dont fuck animals. But we kill animals all the time to eat them, how can you talk about sympathy? If you were a vegan who honestly said that you dont hurt animals in any way and think other people should follow your example, then I'd be able to take you seriously. You can survive without eating meat, you can survive not fucking animals, in the end its your choice. Maybe people who fuck animals have a stronger urge to fuck them than you have to eat them. | ||
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Hysterisk
Sweden128 Posts
On October 08 2006 07:38 SuperJongMan wrote: No dogs are not human, but it's obvious you've never had a pet before either (Hysterisk). If a doggy wants a lil wee wee loving, I'll give it to him~ He loves me, I love him back. Plus, come on~ you live in a capitalist society, if there is a demand, someone will supply and make money off it. Animal sex seems completely a great way to make some cash to me. Oh man... that was supposed to come out sarcastic but didn't come out as nice. Anyways, I too am rather disturbed by the thoughts of animal sex, but I am smart enough to know that sex does not constituate harm in any way of the physical nature. Therefore, it is morally incorrect in my views, to restrict or limit it's actions. So you can fuck animals in my world, as long as it isn't some hardcore bondage shit. Sheep might not dig the whole leather thing... Actually I have 2 dogs and 3 cats, and I would never burn, fuck or eat any of them. Im just trying to answer the original question of this thread "why is it legal to fuck animals in the netherlands?" | ||
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besiger
Croatia2452 Posts
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Hysterisk
Sweden128 Posts
On October 08 2006 07:46 BeSiGeR wrote: i dont kill the animals i eat myself, although it might be better that way, u would respect it more, i respect that something has give life so i may eat, but if i dont eat meat, the cow will still die, if not by human hand then by some carnivoruos animal, so no, i dont have nothing against eating animals, but the way they are raised for slaughter bothers me, but no im not gonna be a vegetarian, and i can say that im not hurting animals, atleast not that i know of, i mean the people will kill the cow even if only one person will eat it, they are not killing the animals so only i could eat, and if i stop, there are still milions of meat eaters, and animals will be killed even for just one meat eater. oh and vegetarians cause alot of animal deaths too "Why did you do it?" "But he did it too!" Not the best excuse, do you think? It's ok if you dont hurt them yourself? That is just so wrong. So you dont condone fucking animals, but you have nothing against watching animalporn since the animal would get fucked anyway? What about childporn, the kid would get her cherry popped anyway, right? Its not hurting anone, atleast your not hurting anyone? It would be more honest if every man killed the animals he ate himselves, that way we wouldnt be able pretend the animals dont suffer. Let someone else slit the pigs throat, im not responsible, I just bought the meat! | ||
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besiger
Croatia2452 Posts
*So you dont condone fucking animals, but you have nothing against watching animalporn since the animal would get fucked anyway?* no, in nature the animal would not get fucked, at least not by some animal that would it eat, it would on the other hand most likley get eaten | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33723 Posts
On October 08 2006 07:41 Hysterisk wrote: [removed quote within quote] Dont get me wrong, I dont fuck animals. But we kill animals all the time to eat them, how can you talk about sympathy? If you were a vegan who honestly said that you dont hurt animals in any way and think other people should follow your example, then I'd be able to take you seriously. You can survive without eating meat, you can survive not fucking animals, in the end its your choice. Maybe people who fuck animals have a stronger urge to fuck them than you have to eat them. I don't eat meat. I don't kill insects. I don't fuck animals. I fit your criteria for being taken seriously. It is wrong because in my opinion animals are no lesser beings than humans, you need their consent every bit as much as you do a humans. I still don't think it's exactly eh a good thing if you could somehow get their consent but -_- Eh, I think the main point is not wether or not it's disgusting or not, it's about consent (primarily) and less about disgust. I don't know much about wether or not you risk hurting them or anything like that, so not going to comment. Of course, now someone is going to bring up the example of dog male, human female.. However, it's simply a lot easier to just ban it all together. | ||
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besiger
Croatia2452 Posts
here, during harvest season a whole bunch of animals gets run over by farming veichles, and they dont even get eaten, they died for nothing, except that you could eat *off topic. wheeee my 100 post* *off topic #2 FA can i ob more games of you and nazgul, ur terran is great  * | ||
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besiger
Croatia2452 Posts
that prety much are all my views simplified, now i might be moraly wrong, but i think that its not the same if animal dies for food, or for no reason except so you can laugh | ||
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Luhh
Sweden2974 Posts
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distant_voice
Germany2521 Posts
On October 08 2006 07:37 BlackJack wrote: [removed quote within quote] Get help. seriously | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33723 Posts
On October 08 2006 08:12 BeSiGeR wrote: i eat animas for food, but i wont kill them for fun, i wont fuck them for fun that prety much are all my views simplified, now i might be moraly wrong, but i think that its not the same if animal dies for food, or for no reason except so you can laugh That's some good reasoning  And nazgul's P has gone back to better strength now, so my terran can't compete And PvP isn't that fun! | ||
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fusionsdf
Canada15390 Posts
On October 08 2006 05:53 BeSiGeR wrote: it is not okay to hunt for sport, it is not okay to experiment it is okay to eat them, although i dont like the way animals are beeing raised for slaughter it is NOT OK TO fuck animals so will somebody tell me how the hell do laws like these get passed sure it is | ||
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