EPTOn September 04 2006 18:52 NonY wrote:
Mani I mean that you can find a gem of a post anywhere on these forums, but in order to do that you must read all of the bad posts too. That's how content is sacrificed. The reason I relate this to the philosophy of moderating here is because I believe the preferential treatment encourages bad content. That's my pet theory.
I would prefer to have a very tightly moderated rule like this: All posts must have good content and be on topic. Of course "good content" could just be posting "hahaha" in response to a joke-thread, or it could be simply stating "iloveoov" in the liquibet thread you just voted in. On the other hand, it'd be unacceptable to post an opinion without supporting it when it would be appropriate to support it. Inside jokes would almost disappear (but they could be added into a post with on-topic content). There'd be some exceptions, like if midian posted in a strategy thread "lurkers would be better" then his post contains good content just by the authority of his name, although it'd be nice if he'd explain in the first place he wouldnt necessarily be punished.
So in a sense, if you want to be technical with me, you could say you're already doing that but the standards aren't as strict as I would like them to be. But in reality, the site would be entirely different. Posts couldn't be made without each one being an on-topic contribution. I would suggest (and this would happen naturally anyway) for one forum to not be strictly moderated. It'd be a place where everyone could "cut loose." (and yes you should know what I'm referring to). And posters would easily be able to observe the contrast in moderation between this "having fun, hanging out, being with the community" forum and all the other forums which are strictly dedicated to content.
Hopefully I've expressed my vision. And with that in mind, I'll now say this: I don't necessarily think my vision is better than what currently exists. It would certainly be my preference since I'd like to be able to access the great content of this site in pure form, but I know a lot of people like their content mixed with off-topic things (it adds to the atmosphere, I guess).
ps: how many topics have I created? I don't think very many...
pps: this is my last post.
Mani I mean that you can find a gem of a post anywhere on these forums, but in order to do that you must read all of the bad posts too. That's how content is sacrificed. The reason I relate this to the philosophy of moderating here is because I believe the preferential treatment encourages bad content. That's my pet theory.
I would prefer to have a very tightly moderated rule like this: All posts must have good content and be on topic. Of course "good content" could just be posting "hahaha" in response to a joke-thread, or it could be simply stating "iloveoov" in the liquibet thread you just voted in. On the other hand, it'd be unacceptable to post an opinion without supporting it when it would be appropriate to support it. Inside jokes would almost disappear (but they could be added into a post with on-topic content). There'd be some exceptions, like if midian posted in a strategy thread "lurkers would be better" then his post contains good content just by the authority of his name, although it'd be nice if he'd explain in the first place he wouldnt necessarily be punished.
So in a sense, if you want to be technical with me, you could say you're already doing that but the standards aren't as strict as I would like them to be. But in reality, the site would be entirely different. Posts couldn't be made without each one being an on-topic contribution. I would suggest (and this would happen naturally anyway) for one forum to not be strictly moderated. It'd be a place where everyone could "cut loose." (and yes you should know what I'm referring to). And posters would easily be able to observe the contrast in moderation between this "having fun, hanging out, being with the community" forum and all the other forums which are strictly dedicated to content.
Hopefully I've expressed my vision. And with that in mind, I'll now say this: I don't necessarily think my vision is better than what currently exists. It would certainly be my preference since I'd like to be able to access the great content of this site in pure form, but I know a lot of people like their content mixed with off-topic things (it adds to the atmosphere, I guess).
ps: how many topics have I created? I don't think very many...
pps: this is my last post.
I skimmed most of your post, but what you're asking for is nearly impossible with the limited amount of resources we have here. You'd need a moderating team ten times the size of the one we have in order to do that. It's a harsh reality that you have to deal with when posting on a public forum. You have to deal with shitty posts. Eventually you know who the shitty posters are, so you can just skip right over them when you see their names.
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