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Again, that's not by Toriyama. It's from a guide book released after the series.
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Daizenshuu isn't canon, it's not like toriyama wrote all the guidebooks. However I do agree with their powerlevels on this one though.
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I never watched/read/had any interest for Dragon Ball, but what do you guys think about the Superman vs Goku episode of Death Battle? :-) It also features some stats for Goku's powers.
+ Show Spoiler [video here] +
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On September 23 2013 20:00 thezanursic wrote:
Amm I've only seen like 3-4 episodes of the show, but
Goku: 416
SS3 Goku: 24 billion
What the fuck?
Hahaha.. "Aliens"
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LOL dat inflation post-Frieza
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I think Nappa needs to be higher, otherwise Piccolo could've dealt with him more easily. Also in Androidsaga SSJ Goku without desease should be better then SSJ Vegeta, because there is no reason to assume that Vegeta overtook Goku. ANd after the 1 year training Goku would obviously kick Vegetas butt.
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On September 23 2013 21:36 kwizach wrote:I never watched/read/had any interest for Dragon Ball, but what do you guys think about the Superman vs Goku episode of Death Battle? :-) It also features some stats for Goku's powers. + Show Spoiler [video here] +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyl97TG8jbA
Watched it.
Well just from pure semantics and logic Goku can NOT beat Superman. Superman literally has infinite potential especially sun-dipped Superman (literally God at this point). Goku has limitations of which can be increased over time. Superman can just...go.
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On September 23 2013 22:08 heroyi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 21:36 kwizach wrote:I never watched/read/had any interest for Dragon Ball, but what do you guys think about the Superman vs Goku episode of Death Battle? :-) It also features some stats for Goku's powers. + Show Spoiler [video here] +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyl97TG8jbA Watched it. Well just from pure semantics and logic Goku can NOT beat Superman. Superman literally has infinite potential especially sun-dipped Superman (literally God at this point). Goku has limitations of which can be increased over time. Superman can just...go.
Which is why Superman sucks as a superhero. :D
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On September 23 2013 22:22 Abominous wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 22:08 heroyi wrote:On September 23 2013 21:36 kwizach wrote:I never watched/read/had any interest for Dragon Ball, but what do you guys think about the Superman vs Goku episode of Death Battle? :-) It also features some stats for Goku's powers. + Show Spoiler [video here] +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyl97TG8jbA Watched it. Well just from pure semantics and logic Goku can NOT beat Superman. Superman literally has infinite potential especially sun-dipped Superman (literally God at this point). Goku has limitations of which can be increased over time. Superman can just...go. Which is why Superman sucks as a superhero. :D
seriously
He is boring imo. I never understood the whole hype of Superman. I mean I get it. He is intelligent, has combat experience, strong, fast etc... he is the damn DPS tank in mmo. Whereas other superheros aren't that invincible *cough Batman *cough.
I did like the justice league show on how they limited Superman (hell they even mentioned this issue multiple times in intelligent ways).
I still love Goku and DBZ but damn is this show inconsistent sometimes (Vegeta blowing up a planet in Season 1 but didn't have the power level to do so?).
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On September 23 2013 22:08 heroyi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 21:36 kwizach wrote:I never watched/read/had any interest for Dragon Ball, but what do you guys think about the Superman vs Goku episode of Death Battle? :-) It also features some stats for Goku's powers. + Show Spoiler [video here] +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyl97TG8jbA Watched it. Well just from pure semantics and logic Goku can NOT beat Superman. Superman literally has infinite potential especially sun-dipped Superman (literally God at this point). Goku has limitations of which can be increased over time. Superman can just...go.
Agreed. The only scenario where Goku would have any chance is if we add maluses for plot holes. 
Since somebody brought up fan-made DB stuff, is anybody else reading Dragonball Multiverse?
Probably my second favourite fan-made DB stuff after the abridged series. 
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Goku could easily beat Superman if he were willing to play dirty, even without Kryptonite.
Instant Transmission both of them to a planet with a red sun, and it's over right then and there.
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Is the multiplier for Super Saiyan they used even accurate? in that scenario , Superman may have won because Goku destroyed the Kryptonite (which there is not 100% chance that he will do it, even its in his traits ) also what if Superman did not hit the sun, it would have been a lot different.
If you look the difference in power levels from normal form to SSJ 3 , its cleary not x2 , x4 and so on.. (what the video says).
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On September 23 2013 22:40 LegalLord wrote:
Goku could easily beat Superman if he were willing to play dirty, even without Kryptonite.
Instant Transmission both of them to a planet with a red sun, and it's over right then and there.
Well yeah, but that requires some preparation. Non-training preperation. And while Goku might be a genius, he is also an idiot. :/
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On September 23 2013 22:40 LegalLord wrote:
Goku could easily beat Superman if he were willing to play dirty, even without Kryptonite.
Instant Transmission both of them to a planet with a red sun, and it's over right then and there.
How would Goku know he needs to teleport him to a red sun? Also, he would need to concentrate to teleport them both there, and Superman would probably not give him the time to do so :p
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On September 23 2013 22:27 heroyi wrote:
I still love Goku and DBZ but damn is this show inconsistent sometimes (Vegeta blowing up a planet in Season 1 but didn't have the power level to do so?).
It's extra dumb since you barely need any powerlevel to destroy a planet (Kame-sennin blowing up the moon with a kamehameha in dragonball).
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God damn DBZ was a terrible anime, but I eat up every bit of it.
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I loved the Dragon Ball saga and all, but lord hard core fans have way too much time
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One thing I noticed is an error in OP is that when Frieza comes to Earth mechanized, he says something to the effect of "I can probably handle [Goku] myself now that I'm even more powerful." meaning that Mecha Frieza is stronger than 100% Frieza on Namek.
EDIT: That's a quote from the manga btw.
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On September 23 2013 23:43 RPR_Tempest wrote:
One thing I noticed is an error in OP is that when Frieza comes to Earth mechanized, he says something to the effect of "I can probably handle [Goku] myself now that I'm even more powerful." meaning that Mecha Frieza is stronger than 100% Frieza on Namek.
EDIT: That's a quote from the manga btw.
Translated manga or original manga? Because I don't remember that line to be there in the German translation.
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