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MidKnight
Profile Joined December 2008
Lithuania884 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 15:37:15
August 08 2013 15:32 GMT
#881
On August 09 2013 00:07 sickless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 23:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:46 sickless wrote:
reading this thread i assumed the whole world community turned into homosexual society


Right, because not wanting to persecute homosexuals means you must be one too.

Just like being anti slave trade makes you black, or anti holocaust makes you jewish or anti holodomor makes you Ukranian.

You Russians slay me, you really do.

You shouldn't care about something in what you don't take in. Why would you, for example in russia, pay attention to hordes of workers from asia, who are working just everywhere in Moscow. Like it doesn't really relates to you unless they hurt someone of your friends, but whenever they do you change your mind immediatly. But man seriously, do you enjoy watching gays on tvs or kissing everywhere on the street? It's against the law of nature, this is not how the humanity lived for thousands years, we are not meant for this, but ok, since we have democracy, please be gays, but don't make other people to think it is normal. What do we mean under propaganda? It's simple, millions of people are watching tv, and even more children, do you really want your child to see kissing men and then he will try to repeat it? The mind of kid is not formed yet, at least until 16, he shouldn't choose it at that age.


Ignorance. Simply ignorance and the culture beating you over the head with same nonsense. It's not meant as an insult btw.

Here are some facts for you. Homosexual relationships are natural in a sense that they happen in nature. Plenty of species have them. Yes, it's not "normal" (gays can't reproduce). Yes, you can call it an anomaly. But your argument is terrible.
It's not any different than any other anomaly in nature. Most people are born with 2 arms and 5 fingers. Some aren't. Do you discriminate against them too? What's your criteria for discrimination?

Also, homosexuals existed long before "our times". A lot of famous figures have been speculated to be homosexuals. It's likely to be nature's way of controlling the population growth. The only thing happening nowadays is that people don't need to hide as much and live their lives in misery trying to pretend they're something they're not, so we hear it about it more. Saying that humanity is in danger because "more people are becoming gay" is simply ridiculous. No other word for it.

And NO, children won't become gay if they see gays. That's not how basic biological attraction works. You can't just choose to suddenly be attracted to a different sex. Did you ever have a thought "I guess I will make girls, not boys"? Did you ever have to make a decision be attracted to a certain girl? Well gays brains' are wired differently, they find same sex attractive. That's it. We can't change it, it doesn't hurt anyone and discriminating other human beings for that reason is illogical.

You're making these arguments because you never researched the subject and this is what your culture taught you. And IT'S WRONG. IT'S SIMPLY WRONG.
I know it's hard to accept that, but try.
sickless
Profile Joined April 2011
Russian Federation36 Posts
August 08 2013 15:35 GMT
#882
On August 09 2013 00:26 DoubleReed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 00:07 sickless wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:46 sickless wrote:
reading this thread i assumed the whole world community turned into homosexual society


Right, because not wanting to persecute homosexuals means you must be one too.

Just like being anti slave trade makes you black, or anti holocaust makes you jewish or anti holodomor makes you Ukranian.

You Russians slay me, you really do.

You shouldn't care about something in what you don't take in. Why would you, for example in russia, pay attention to hordes of workers from asia, who are working just everywhere in Moscow. Like it doesn't really relates to you unless they hurt someone of your friends, but whenever they do you change your mind immediatly. But man seriously, do you enjoy watching gays on tvs or kissing everywhere on the street? It's against the law of nature, this is not how the humanity lived for thousands years, we are not meant for this, but ok, since we have democracy, please be gays, but don't make other people to think it is normal. What do we mean under propaganda? It's simple, millions of people are watching tv, and even more children, do you really want your child to see kissing men and then he will try to repeat it? The mind of kid is not formed yet, at least until 16, he shouldn't choose it at that age.


Dude, it's two guys kissing. Who cares? Are you really that immature and childish? Grow up.


How does it actually make you immature and childish whenever you don't like to see anything?
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
August 08 2013 15:37 GMT
#883
On August 09 2013 00:35 sickless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 00:26 DoubleReed wrote:
On August 09 2013 00:07 sickless wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:46 sickless wrote:
reading this thread i assumed the whole world community turned into homosexual society


Right, because not wanting to persecute homosexuals means you must be one too.

Just like being anti slave trade makes you black, or anti holocaust makes you jewish or anti holodomor makes you Ukranian.

You Russians slay me, you really do.

You shouldn't care about something in what you don't take in. Why would you, for example in russia, pay attention to hordes of workers from asia, who are working just everywhere in Moscow. Like it doesn't really relates to you unless they hurt someone of your friends, but whenever they do you change your mind immediatly. But man seriously, do you enjoy watching gays on tvs or kissing everywhere on the street? It's against the law of nature, this is not how the humanity lived for thousands years, we are not meant for this, but ok, since we have democracy, please be gays, but don't make other people to think it is normal. What do we mean under propaganda? It's simple, millions of people are watching tv, and even more children, do you really want your child to see kissing men and then he will try to repeat it? The mind of kid is not formed yet, at least until 16, he shouldn't choose it at that age.


Dude, it's two guys kissing. Who cares? Are you really that immature and childish? Grow up.


How does it actually make you immature and childish whenever you don't like to see anything?


"Ewww kissing! That's gross! Girls have cooties!!"

That's my impression of you.
sickless
Profile Joined April 2011
Russian Federation36 Posts
August 08 2013 15:44 GMT
#884
On August 09 2013 00:32 MidKnight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 00:07 sickless wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:46 sickless wrote:
reading this thread i assumed the whole world community turned into homosexual society


Right, because not wanting to persecute homosexuals means you must be one too.

Just like being anti slave trade makes you black, or anti holocaust makes you jewish or anti holodomor makes you Ukranian.

You Russians slay me, you really do.

You shouldn't care about something in what you don't take in. Why would you, for example in russia, pay attention to hordes of workers from asia, who are working just everywhere in Moscow. Like it doesn't really relates to you unless they hurt someone of your friends, but whenever they do you change your mind immediatly. But man seriously, do you enjoy watching gays on tvs or kissing everywhere on the street? It's against the law of nature, this is not how the humanity lived for thousands years, we are not meant for this, but ok, since we have democracy, please be gays, but don't make other people to think it is normal. What do we mean under propaganda? It's simple, millions of people are watching tv, and even more children, do you really want your child to see kissing men and then he will try to repeat it? The mind of kid is not formed yet, at least until 16, he shouldn't choose it at that age.


Ignorance. Simply ignorance and the culture beating you over the head with same nonsense.

Here are some facts for you. Homosexual relationships are natural in a sense that they happen in nature. Plenty of species have them. Yes, it's not "normal" (gays can't reproduce). Yes, you can call it an anomaly. But your argument is terrible.
It's not any different than any other anomaly in nature. Most people are born with 2 arms and 5 fingers. Some aren't. Do you discriminate against them too? What's your criteria for discrimination?

Also, homosexuals existed long before "our times". A lot of famous figures have been speculated to be homosexuals. It's likely to be nature's way of controlling the population growth. The only thing happening nowadays is that people don't need to hide as much and live their lives in misery trying to pretend they're something they're not, so we hear it about it more. Saying that humanity is in danger because "more people are becoming gay" is simply ridiculous. No other word for it.

And NO, children won't become gay if they see gays. That's not how basic biological attraction works. You can't just choose to suddenly be attracted to a different sex. Did you ever have a thought "I guess I will make girls, not boys"? Did you ever have to make a decision be attracted to a certain girl? Well gays brains' are wired differently, they find same sex attractive. That's it. We can't change it, it doesn't hurt anyone and discriminating other human beings for that reason is illogical.

You're making these arguments because you never researched the subject and this is what your culture taught you. And IT'S WRONG. IT'S SIMPLY WRONG.
I know it's hard to accept that, but try.


I don't really understand you telling me my culture is wrong just because your argument rely on comparison gays between people borning with 1 hand or whatever so, it's hard to not follow the society which consists fully out of gays? don't you think so? We can argue for infinite but the thing the western culture wants to force us to think like they do is already wrong, homosexuality was never appreciated in our country and why would we change our mind in favor of homosexuals? Noone forced you to vote for Olympics in Russia, it's only your choose, and since so you need to respect our laws and culture.
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
August 08 2013 15:47 GMT
#885
do ya'll homophobic Russians hate lesbians too or just gay men?
like your kid is seeing men and women kiss on tv and thats okay. then they see a man and a man kiss and that's not okay. is two girls kissing okay? have you ever looked up lesbian porn or anythin? im just wondering
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
sickless
Profile Joined April 2011
Russian Federation36 Posts
August 08 2013 15:47 GMT
#886
On August 09 2013 00:37 DoubleReed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 00:35 sickless wrote:
On August 09 2013 00:26 DoubleReed wrote:
On August 09 2013 00:07 sickless wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:46 sickless wrote:
reading this thread i assumed the whole world community turned into homosexual society


Right, because not wanting to persecute homosexuals means you must be one too.

Just like being anti slave trade makes you black, or anti holocaust makes you jewish or anti holodomor makes you Ukranian.

You Russians slay me, you really do.

You shouldn't care about something in what you don't take in. Why would you, for example in russia, pay attention to hordes of workers from asia, who are working just everywhere in Moscow. Like it doesn't really relates to you unless they hurt someone of your friends, but whenever they do you change your mind immediatly. But man seriously, do you enjoy watching gays on tvs or kissing everywhere on the street? It's against the law of nature, this is not how the humanity lived for thousands years, we are not meant for this, but ok, since we have democracy, please be gays, but don't make other people to think it is normal. What do we mean under propaganda? It's simple, millions of people are watching tv, and even more children, do you really want your child to see kissing men and then he will try to repeat it? The mind of kid is not formed yet, at least until 16, he shouldn't choose it at that age.


Dude, it's two guys kissing. Who cares? Are you really that immature and childish? Grow up.


How does it actually make you immature and childish whenever you don't like to see anything?


"Ewww kissing! That's gross! Girls have cooties!!"

That's my impression of you.

My impression would be " Oh wait, he isn't kissing a girl *vomit* "
MidKnight
Profile Joined December 2008
Lithuania884 Posts
August 08 2013 15:47 GMT
#887
On August 09 2013 00:35 sickless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 00:26 DoubleReed wrote:
On August 09 2013 00:07 sickless wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:46 sickless wrote:
reading this thread i assumed the whole world community turned into homosexual society


Right, because not wanting to persecute homosexuals means you must be one too.

Just like being anti slave trade makes you black, or anti holocaust makes you jewish or anti holodomor makes you Ukranian.

You Russians slay me, you really do.

You shouldn't care about something in what you don't take in. Why would you, for example in russia, pay attention to hordes of workers from asia, who are working just everywhere in Moscow. Like it doesn't really relates to you unless they hurt someone of your friends, but whenever they do you change your mind immediatly. But man seriously, do you enjoy watching gays on tvs or kissing everywhere on the street? It's against the law of nature, this is not how the humanity lived for thousands years, we are not meant for this, but ok, since we have democracy, please be gays, but don't make other people to think it is normal. What do we mean under propaganda? It's simple, millions of people are watching tv, and even more children, do you really want your child to see kissing men and then he will try to repeat it? The mind of kid is not formed yet, at least until 16, he shouldn't choose it at that age.


Dude, it's two guys kissing. Who cares? Are you really that immature and childish? Grow up.


How does it actually make you immature and childish whenever you don't like to see anything?


Yes, straight people may not "like it". You may find it "disgusting".
But have you ever thought that gays have to put up with whole society built around straight people? All the movies having a boy and a girl falling in love? Straight couples having no trouble kissing each other in public?
Have you thought they might find it "disgusting" too because that's just not what they find attractive? No one is telling you to watch it, but you could also be a lot more tolerant and be happy that two people have this kind of relationship.

That's why we like to separate ourselves from other animals, it's because we have this brain and can make rational decisions rather than "ew this makes me sick" ones.
No one is asking you to suddenly change, but maybe the next time you see some gay guy on TV you shouldn't think "kakoj pidor", but stop yourself and understand that it's just another person like you and me who just wants to be treated fairly.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
August 08 2013 15:47 GMT
#888
On August 09 2013 00:07 sickless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2013 23:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:46 sickless wrote:
reading this thread i assumed the whole world community turned into homosexual society


Right, because not wanting to persecute homosexuals means you must be one too.

Just like being anti slave trade makes you black, or anti holocaust makes you jewish or anti holodomor makes you Ukranian.

You Russians slay me, you really do.

You shouldn't care about something in what you don't take in.


So as a non Jewish Caucasian I shouldn't care about the holocaust or the slave trade?

Why would you, for example in russia, pay attention to hordes of workers from asia, who are working just everywhere in Moscow. Like it doesn't really relates to you unless they hurt someone of your friends, but whenever they do you change your mind immediatly.


Okay this is instance number of you totally missing the entire point. This is clearly the foundations of how you came to such a idiotic mindset. There is no "they". "They" do no exist, "They" is not a thing nor have "they" ever been a thing ever. People are individuals, if a Chinese man kills your sister that has absolutely fuck all to do with any of the other 1 billion people on this earth of Chinese origin. If a gay man runs over your dog that has fuck all to do with any other gay men. If a black man steals all your money posing as a Nigerian prince that has nothing at all to do with the other 2 billion+ black people in the world. Do you understand this basic concept?

But man seriously, do you enjoy watching gays on tvs or kissing everywhere on the street?


I don't really care, I don't get any sexual arousal from but neither do if old people or people I find unattractive are kissing but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be allowed because what other people do or put on TV is none of my business.

It's against the law of nature, this is not how the humanity lived for thousands years, we are not meant for this,


Men have been having sex with other men since the dawn of time, homosexuality is as old as heterosexuality. There are people throughout history in every society who have been gay.

but ok, since we have democracy, please be gays, but don't make other people to think it is normal.


No, you do not have democracy. Russia had democracy for about 6 months in 1917 and has never had it before or since then. I live in a democracy, you most certainly do not.

What do we mean under propaganda? It's simple, millions of people are watching tv, and even more children, do you really want your child to see kissing men and then he will try to repeat it? The mind of kid is not formed yet, at least until 16, he shouldn't choose it at that age.


People do not choose to be gay, and even if they did it's absolutely none of your business what consenting adults choose to do. Watching men kiss does not make me want to do it myself anymore than watching a 30 stone woman have sex would make me want to have sex with a 30 stone woman.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 08 2013 15:47 GMT
#889
On August 09 2013 00:44 sickless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 00:32 MidKnight wrote:
On August 09 2013 00:07 sickless wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:46 sickless wrote:
reading this thread i assumed the whole world community turned into homosexual society


Right, because not wanting to persecute homosexuals means you must be one too.

Just like being anti slave trade makes you black, or anti holocaust makes you jewish or anti holodomor makes you Ukranian.

You Russians slay me, you really do.

You shouldn't care about something in what you don't take in. Why would you, for example in russia, pay attention to hordes of workers from asia, who are working just everywhere in Moscow. Like it doesn't really relates to you unless they hurt someone of your friends, but whenever they do you change your mind immediatly. But man seriously, do you enjoy watching gays on tvs or kissing everywhere on the street? It's against the law of nature, this is not how the humanity lived for thousands years, we are not meant for this, but ok, since we have democracy, please be gays, but don't make other people to think it is normal. What do we mean under propaganda? It's simple, millions of people are watching tv, and even more children, do you really want your child to see kissing men and then he will try to repeat it? The mind of kid is not formed yet, at least until 16, he shouldn't choose it at that age.


Ignorance. Simply ignorance and the culture beating you over the head with same nonsense.

Here are some facts for you. Homosexual relationships are natural in a sense that they happen in nature. Plenty of species have them. Yes, it's not "normal" (gays can't reproduce). Yes, you can call it an anomaly. But your argument is terrible.
It's not any different than any other anomaly in nature. Most people are born with 2 arms and 5 fingers. Some aren't. Do you discriminate against them too? What's your criteria for discrimination?

Also, homosexuals existed long before "our times". A lot of famous figures have been speculated to be homosexuals. It's likely to be nature's way of controlling the population growth. The only thing happening nowadays is that people don't need to hide as much and live their lives in misery trying to pretend they're something they're not, so we hear it about it more. Saying that humanity is in danger because "more people are becoming gay" is simply ridiculous. No other word for it.

And NO, children won't become gay if they see gays. That's not how basic biological attraction works. You can't just choose to suddenly be attracted to a different sex. Did you ever have a thought "I guess I will make girls, not boys"? Did you ever have to make a decision be attracted to a certain girl? Well gays brains' are wired differently, they find same sex attractive. That's it. We can't change it, it doesn't hurt anyone and discriminating other human beings for that reason is illogical.

You're making these arguments because you never researched the subject and this is what your culture taught you. And IT'S WRONG. IT'S SIMPLY WRONG.
I know it's hard to accept that, but try.


I don't really understand you telling me my culture is wrong just because your argument rely on comparison gays between people borning with 1 hand or whatever so, it's hard to not follow the society which consists fully out of gays? don't you think so? We can argue for infinite but the thing the western culture wants to force us to think like they do is already wrong, homosexuality was never appreciated in our country and why would we change our mind in favor of homosexuals? Noone forced you to vote for Olympics in Russia, it's only your choose, and since so you need to respect our laws and culture.


If I were to go to Russia, I'd probably do what I needed to do to avoid getting arrested.

However, in general, there is absolutely no need to "respect" bigotry.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
sickless
Profile Joined April 2011
Russian Federation36 Posts
August 08 2013 15:48 GMT
#890
On August 09 2013 00:47 ComaDose wrote:
do ya'll homophobic Russians hate lesbians too or just gay men?
like your kid is seeing men and women kiss on tv and thats okay. then they see a man and a man kiss and that's not okay. is two girls kissing okay? have you ever looked up lesbian porn or anythin? im just wondering

haha, personally i don't have anything about lesbians since i'm a man haha :D
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
August 08 2013 15:49 GMT
#891
On August 09 2013 00:47 ComaDose wrote:
do ya'll homophobic Russians hate lesbians too or just gay men?
like your kid is seeing men and women kiss on tv and thats okay. then they see a man and a man kiss and that's not okay. is two girls kissing okay? have you ever looked up lesbian porn or anythin? im just wondering


I'm presuming they only watch lesbian porn as by watching straight porn there's the chance your eyes might move a little too close to the man's throbbing penis and turn you into a gay. At least that's how our Russian comrades tell me it happens.
sickless
Profile Joined April 2011
Russian Federation36 Posts
August 08 2013 15:52 GMT
#892
On August 09 2013 00:47 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 00:44 sickless wrote:
On August 09 2013 00:32 MidKnight wrote:
On August 09 2013 00:07 sickless wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:46 sickless wrote:
reading this thread i assumed the whole world community turned into homosexual society


Right, because not wanting to persecute homosexuals means you must be one too.

Just like being anti slave trade makes you black, or anti holocaust makes you jewish or anti holodomor makes you Ukranian.

You Russians slay me, you really do.

You shouldn't care about something in what you don't take in. Why would you, for example in russia, pay attention to hordes of workers from asia, who are working just everywhere in Moscow. Like it doesn't really relates to you unless they hurt someone of your friends, but whenever they do you change your mind immediatly. But man seriously, do you enjoy watching gays on tvs or kissing everywhere on the street? It's against the law of nature, this is not how the humanity lived for thousands years, we are not meant for this, but ok, since we have democracy, please be gays, but don't make other people to think it is normal. What do we mean under propaganda? It's simple, millions of people are watching tv, and even more children, do you really want your child to see kissing men and then he will try to repeat it? The mind of kid is not formed yet, at least until 16, he shouldn't choose it at that age.


Ignorance. Simply ignorance and the culture beating you over the head with same nonsense.

Here are some facts for you. Homosexual relationships are natural in a sense that they happen in nature. Plenty of species have them. Yes, it's not "normal" (gays can't reproduce). Yes, you can call it an anomaly. But your argument is terrible.
It's not any different than any other anomaly in nature. Most people are born with 2 arms and 5 fingers. Some aren't. Do you discriminate against them too? What's your criteria for discrimination?

Also, homosexuals existed long before "our times". A lot of famous figures have been speculated to be homosexuals. It's likely to be nature's way of controlling the population growth. The only thing happening nowadays is that people don't need to hide as much and live their lives in misery trying to pretend they're something they're not, so we hear it about it more. Saying that humanity is in danger because "more people are becoming gay" is simply ridiculous. No other word for it.

And NO, children won't become gay if they see gays. That's not how basic biological attraction works. You can't just choose to suddenly be attracted to a different sex. Did you ever have a thought "I guess I will make girls, not boys"? Did you ever have to make a decision be attracted to a certain girl? Well gays brains' are wired differently, they find same sex attractive. That's it. We can't change it, it doesn't hurt anyone and discriminating other human beings for that reason is illogical.

You're making these arguments because you never researched the subject and this is what your culture taught you. And IT'S WRONG. IT'S SIMPLY WRONG.
I know it's hard to accept that, but try.


I don't really understand you telling me my culture is wrong just because your argument rely on comparison gays between people borning with 1 hand or whatever so, it's hard to not follow the society which consists fully out of gays? don't you think so? We can argue for infinite but the thing the western culture wants to force us to think like they do is already wrong, homosexuality was never appreciated in our country and why would we change our mind in favor of homosexuals? Noone forced you to vote for Olympics in Russia, it's only your choose, and since so you need to respect our laws and culture.


If I were to go to Russia, I'd probably do what I needed to do to avoid getting arrested.

However, in general, there is absolutely no need to "respect" bigotry.

The most important thing i saw in your post, is that most of people are still thinking stereotypic. OMG RUSSIA, bears, vodka, everyone kills each other. haha i can say the opposite thing trying to popularize homosexuality is the biggest bigotry nowadays
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
August 08 2013 15:52 GMT
#893
On August 09 2013 00:48 sickless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 00:47 ComaDose wrote:
do ya'll homophobic Russians hate lesbians too or just gay men?
like your kid is seeing men and women kiss on tv and thats okay. then they see a man and a man kiss and that's not okay. is two girls kissing okay? have you ever looked up lesbian porn or anythin? im just wondering

haha, personally i don't have anything about lesbians since i'm a man haha :D


... wow.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
MidKnight
Profile Joined December 2008
Lithuania884 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 15:58:39
August 08 2013 15:54 GMT
#894
On August 09 2013 00:44 sickless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 00:32 MidKnight wrote:
On August 09 2013 00:07 sickless wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:46 sickless wrote:
reading this thread i assumed the whole world community turned into homosexual society


Right, because not wanting to persecute homosexuals means you must be one too.

Just like being anti slave trade makes you black, or anti holocaust makes you jewish or anti holodomor makes you Ukranian.

You Russians slay me, you really do.

You shouldn't care about something in what you don't take in. Why would you, for example in russia, pay attention to hordes of workers from asia, who are working just everywhere in Moscow. Like it doesn't really relates to you unless they hurt someone of your friends, but whenever they do you change your mind immediatly. But man seriously, do you enjoy watching gays on tvs or kissing everywhere on the street? It's against the law of nature, this is not how the humanity lived for thousands years, we are not meant for this, but ok, since we have democracy, please be gays, but don't make other people to think it is normal. What do we mean under propaganda? It's simple, millions of people are watching tv, and even more children, do you really want your child to see kissing men and then he will try to repeat it? The mind of kid is not formed yet, at least until 16, he shouldn't choose it at that age.


Ignorance. Simply ignorance and the culture beating you over the head with same nonsense.

Here are some facts for you. Homosexual relationships are natural in a sense that they happen in nature. Plenty of species have them. Yes, it's not "normal" (gays can't reproduce). Yes, you can call it an anomaly. But your argument is terrible.
It's not any different than any other anomaly in nature. Most people are born with 2 arms and 5 fingers. Some aren't. Do you discriminate against them too? What's your criteria for discrimination?

Also, homosexuals existed long before "our times". A lot of famous figures have been speculated to be homosexuals. It's likely to be nature's way of controlling the population growth. The only thing happening nowadays is that people don't need to hide as much and live their lives in misery trying to pretend they're something they're not, so we hear it about it more. Saying that humanity is in danger because "more people are becoming gay" is simply ridiculous. No other word for it.

And NO, children won't become gay if they see gays. That's not how basic biological attraction works. You can't just choose to suddenly be attracted to a different sex. Did you ever have a thought "I guess I will make girls, not boys"? Did you ever have to make a decision be attracted to a certain girl? Well gays brains' are wired differently, they find same sex attractive. That's it. We can't change it, it doesn't hurt anyone and discriminating other human beings for that reason is illogical.

You're making these arguments because you never researched the subject and this is what your culture taught you. And IT'S WRONG. IT'S SIMPLY WRONG.
I know it's hard to accept that, but try.


I don't really understand you telling me my culture is wrong just because your argument rely on comparison gays between people borning with 1 hand or whatever so, it's hard to not follow the society which consists fully out of gays? don't you think so? We can argue for infinite but the thing the western culture wants to force us to think like they do is already wrong, homosexuality was never appreciated in our country and why would we change our mind in favor of homosexuals? Noone forced you to vote for Olympics in Russia, it's only your choose, and since so you need to respect our laws and culture.


Again, you are simply wrong, but again, it's not your fault. There CANNOT be a "society full of gays" because that's not how nature works .No one can "become" gay or "transform" to being gay. I don't think you understand this part. You keep coming back to the same argument. I know it's hard for you to realise that homosexuality doesn't work the way you think it does and you have certain "pride" for being heterosexual. I grew up in the similar environment, but slowly realised that it's simply hate filled irrational belief and I tried to change it.

Why would you change your mind? Because it's a decent and humane thing to do? Because you're discriminating against people for something they cannot choose and aren't harming anyone which is completely irrational?

Your cultural norms are outdated and illogical. What you're saying is the same what people who supported racism were saying 50 years ago. We are better than that.
People do respect your culture. But you take pride in wrong things. Discriminating people is not something you should be proud of.

EDIT: After what he wrote about lesbians, I would LIKE him to be just a troll to restore a little bit faith in humanity for me... But I know this culture and, yeah, unfortunately some people DO think this way and take some kind of pathetic pride in it. It's interesting..
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
August 08 2013 15:56 GMT
#895
On August 09 2013 00:48 sickless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 00:47 ComaDose wrote:
do ya'll homophobic Russians hate lesbians too or just gay men?
like your kid is seeing men and women kiss on tv and thats okay. then they see a man and a man kiss and that's not okay. is two girls kissing okay? have you ever looked up lesbian porn or anythin? im just wondering

haha, personally i don't have anything about lesbians since i'm a man haha :D


Ahhh... I get it. So basically if something isn't meant to turn you on it should be BANNED!!!
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
August 08 2013 15:57 GMT
#896
On August 09 2013 00:47 sickless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 00:37 DoubleReed wrote:
On August 09 2013 00:35 sickless wrote:
On August 09 2013 00:26 DoubleReed wrote:
On August 09 2013 00:07 sickless wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On August 08 2013 23:46 sickless wrote:
reading this thread i assumed the whole world community turned into homosexual society


Right, because not wanting to persecute homosexuals means you must be one too.

Just like being anti slave trade makes you black, or anti holocaust makes you jewish or anti holodomor makes you Ukranian.

You Russians slay me, you really do.

You shouldn't care about something in what you don't take in. Why would you, for example in russia, pay attention to hordes of workers from asia, who are working just everywhere in Moscow. Like it doesn't really relates to you unless they hurt someone of your friends, but whenever they do you change your mind immediatly. But man seriously, do you enjoy watching gays on tvs or kissing everywhere on the street? It's against the law of nature, this is not how the humanity lived for thousands years, we are not meant for this, but ok, since we have democracy, please be gays, but don't make other people to think it is normal. What do we mean under propaganda? It's simple, millions of people are watching tv, and even more children, do you really want your child to see kissing men and then he will try to repeat it? The mind of kid is not formed yet, at least until 16, he shouldn't choose it at that age.


Dude, it's two guys kissing. Who cares? Are you really that immature and childish? Grow up.


How does it actually make you immature and childish whenever you don't like to see anything?


"Ewww kissing! That's gross! Girls have cooties!!"

That's my impression of you.

My impression would be " Oh wait, he isn't kissing a girl *vomit* "


The height of maturity.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
August 08 2013 15:57 GMT
#897
I think I like Russians more when they're feeding like idiots and spamming chat in a language I don't understand in Dota. I mean I had a pretty low opinion of them before but now I can actually know what they're thinking...

The Lincoln quote "Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt" comes to mind.

User was temp banned for this post.
Feartheguru
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1334 Posts
August 08 2013 15:58 GMT
#898
On August 09 2013 00:49 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 00:47 ComaDose wrote:
do ya'll homophobic Russians hate lesbians too or just gay men?
like your kid is seeing men and women kiss on tv and thats okay. then they see a man and a man kiss and that's not okay. is two girls kissing okay? have you ever looked up lesbian porn or anythin? im just wondering


I'm presuming they only watch lesbian porn as by watching straight porn there's the chance your eyes might move a little too close to the man's throbbing penis and turn you into a gay. At least that's how our Russian comrades tell me it happens.


The comrades part killed me.
Don't sweat the petty stuff, don't pet the sweaty stuff.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
August 08 2013 15:58 GMT
#899
On August 09 2013 00:56 DoubleReed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 00:48 sickless wrote:
On August 09 2013 00:47 ComaDose wrote:
do ya'll homophobic Russians hate lesbians too or just gay men?
like your kid is seeing men and women kiss on tv and thats okay. then they see a man and a man kiss and that's not okay. is two girls kissing okay? have you ever looked up lesbian porn or anythin? im just wondering

haha, personally i don't have anything about lesbians since i'm a man haha :D


Ahhh... I get it. So basically if something isn't meant to turn you on it should be BANNED!!!


That's been the logical basis for the Russian state for about 1500 years, why stop now? No surprise they missed the whole liberalism and democracy bandwagon.
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-08 16:00:57
August 08 2013 16:00 GMT
#900
On August 09 2013 00:48 sickless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2013 00:47 ComaDose wrote:
do ya'll homophobic Russians hate lesbians too or just gay men?
like your kid is seeing men and women kiss on tv and thats okay. then they see a man and a man kiss and that's not okay. is two girls kissing okay? have you ever looked up lesbian porn or anythin? im just wondering

haha, personally i don't have anything about lesbians since i'm a man haha :D

does this align with your morals okay?
or are you comfortable admitting that the reason you support this law is because men being intimate makes you uncomfortable?

EDIT: would you prefer the law only apply to men?
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