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AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
July 15 2013 14:48 GMT
#21
Honestly if Snowden really is only leaking the immoral shit the US of A is doing, then he deserves it. Mother of god, he deserves it. He sacrificed everything to do what he did. Few people can say as much.
"How are you?" "I am fine, because it is not normal to scream in pain."
Vanimar
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
220 Posts
July 15 2013 14:49 GMT
#22
On July 15 2013 23:45 DannyJ wrote:
He should win MTV Best Kiss award. Seems to hold as much value lately...


You, sir, just won the thread.
I figured out the EG Curse. It was set in motion by Voodoo Shamans working for Millenium. Whenever EG aquires a player, Voodoo energies start slowly draining skill from the EG guy into an Millenium newcomer. Think about it!
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
July 15 2013 14:50 GMT
#23
Depends, on what basis is the Nobel peace prize handed out for? I mean, lately I've seen it handed out for everything but keeping peace.
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
July 15 2013 14:51 GMT
#24
I don't see how he contributed to "peace" exactly. But yeah, if Obama got it. everyone can.
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-15 14:55:18
July 15 2013 14:54 GMT
#25
I don't see it either... he revealed things that generated a shit storm, tensions across the world between a LOT of countries. How is this peace ?

Ok he revealed bad things about the us (but.. maybe i don't know all he revealed) but every country is spying on everyone (or i really would hope so. Because you never know what/who can hit you). So i don't see all the fuss. Maybe because i'm not american or maybe i didn't get all of what he did...

But really... for me he genereted tensions between countries. And that is no peace for me.
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Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1350 Posts
July 15 2013 14:57 GMT
#26
Of course he deserves it. He is sacrificing pretty much everything he has, to keep on doing this....
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dr.fahrenheit
Profile Joined January 2013
Austria101 Posts
July 15 2013 14:58 GMT
#27
On July 15 2013 23:39 Vivax wrote:
I don't even understand how the disclosed information surprised so many people, it was pretty obvious already that secret services collected information without consent, you just had to look at Echelon, and media wrote of a NSA supercomputer being activated a few years ago, what were they supposed to do with such capacities if they only could handpick a few suspects with a legal permission? (the NSA lol)


The difference now is that you are able to write or say something like that and people wont tell you to take your tinfoil hat and to seek help in the mental institution near you.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
aka_star
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United Kingdom1546 Posts
July 15 2013 15:00 GMT
#28
Piece prize is reserved for idiots to which Snowden is not.
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Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-15 15:03:55
July 15 2013 15:00 GMT
#29
On July 15 2013 23:54 FFW_Rude wrote:
I don't see it either... he revealed things that generated a shit storm, tensions across the world between a LOT of countries. How is this peace ?

Ok he revealed bad things about the us (but.. maybe i don't know all he revealed) but every country is spying on everyone (or i really would hope so. Because you never know what/who can hit you). So i don't see all the fuss. Maybe because i'm not american or maybe i didn't get all of what he did...

But really... for me he genereted tensions between countries. And that is no peace for me.


In the american eye, his contribution is much more about the fact he uncovered a network spying on Americans, not so much about the foreign implications.

I don't really see how he would really deserve a "peace Nobel prize" but the again I don't really see how he can be treated as a traitor either.

On July 15 2013 23:58 dr.fahrenheit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 23:39 Vivax wrote:
I don't even understand how the disclosed information surprised so many people, it was pretty obvious already that secret services collected information without consent, you just had to look at Echelon, and media wrote of a NSA supercomputer being activated a few years ago, what were they supposed to do with such capacities if they only could handpick a few suspects with a legal permission? (the NSA lol)


The difference now is that you are able to write or say something like that and people wont tell you to take your tinfoil hat and to seek help in the mental institution near you.


Exactly, there was a very funny Jon Stewart (actually John Oliver) bit called "good news! you're not paranoid" after this scandal was unraveled
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
Uracil
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany422 Posts
July 15 2013 15:01 GMT
#30
The Nobel Peace Prize has lost all his value for me. It is just used to support different political agendas.
Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1350 Posts
July 15 2013 15:02 GMT
#31
On July 15 2013 23:58 dr.fahrenheit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 23:39 Vivax wrote:
I don't even understand how the disclosed information surprised so many people, it was pretty obvious already that secret services collected information without consent, you just had to look at Echelon, and media wrote of a NSA supercomputer being activated a few years ago, what were they supposed to do with such capacities if they only could handpick a few suspects with a legal permission? (the NSA lol)


The difference now is that you are able to write or say something like that and people wont tell you to take your tinfoil hat and to seek help in the mental institution near you.


IMO one of the main reasons why he should get it.
monchi | IdrA | Flash
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
July 15 2013 15:10 GMT
#32
The prize is meaningless, so why not.
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
July 15 2013 15:11 GMT
#33
On July 16 2013 00:00 Diavlo wrote:
In the american eye, his contribution is much more about the fact he uncovered a network spying on Americans, not so much about the foreign implications.


Oh ok I did not know that. Thanks for the clarification.
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TheRealArtemis
Profile Joined October 2011
687 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-15 15:31:40
July 15 2013 15:31 GMT
#34
If Obama can get a Nobel Peace Prize, then sure, everybody can. But I honestly dont think snowden deserves it. Im stuck in between he gave the public knowledge that the gov is watching them, but at the same time, gave headups to anybody planning to commit acts of terrorism.
religion is like a prison for the seekers of wisdom
stormssc
Profile Joined September 2009
Poland125 Posts
July 15 2013 15:40 GMT
#35
I vote "yes," but I have a feeling there are many people out there who deserve it just as much or more than him.
Cereb
Profile Joined November 2011
Denmark3388 Posts
July 15 2013 15:42 GMT
#36
On July 15 2013 23:58 dr.fahrenheit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2013 23:39 Vivax wrote:
I don't even understand how the disclosed information surprised so many people, it was pretty obvious already that secret services collected information without consent, you just had to look at Echelon, and media wrote of a NSA supercomputer being activated a few years ago, what were they supposed to do with such capacities if they only could handpick a few suspects with a legal permission? (the NSA lol)


The difference now is that you are able to write or say something like that and people wont tell you to take your tinfoil hat and to seek help in the mental institution near you.



Haha, spot on! I'm totally stealing this comment for all the future discussion where people bring this up



I would say he should get it. His insane level of sacrifice in the name of others' rights is an incredibly rare thing. I also like the political statement of this.
"Until the very very top in almost anything, all that matters is how much work you put in. The only problem is most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for. -Greg "IdrA" Fields
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
July 15 2013 15:51 GMT
#37
I'm probably one of the only people who thinks this, but I think Snowden should have stood trial for treason. As a US citizen, he is entitled to a fair trial at risk of the ruling being overturned.

The Latin American nations that offer asylum do so as a "screw you" to the US rather than because they support transparency in government. What really happened was a guy stole and revealed important details of a government program. PRISM isn't bad, but if he has the "insurance" files he claims he has, then revealing those is straight up treason. So no, he doesn't deserve any awards. Not that the Peace Prize is anything but a farce anymore.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-15 15:53:14
July 15 2013 15:52 GMT
#38
I don't really think Snowden is Nobel Prize material, but after the joke with Obama in 2009 I should have lowered my requirements of the prize winner a long time ago.
TriO
Profile Joined July 2011
United States421 Posts
July 15 2013 15:52 GMT
#39
Yes, lets give him the nobel prize for something we already knew the government was doing. All he did was confirmed it.
My dream is to tear up your dream.
DarkInfinity
Profile Joined July 2011
121 Posts
July 15 2013 15:54 GMT
#40
...So the guy who thinks he should get it compares the US spying to Nazi atrocities, and jail to the murder of not only yourself but also the likely enslavement of your family. What? Snowden didn't do **** for peace, just look at his second leak about spying on Europe.
And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee!
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