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Is the mind all chemical and electricity?

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electronic voyeur
Profile Joined October 2012
United States133 Posts
July 01 2013 01:11 GMT
#1
Life is complex, we all get that. Let's focus a bit more, human beings, of all human life forms, is arguably the most complex one, having the only faculty of consciousness capable of complex language, ideas, architecture, composing orchestral pieces, feeling depressed, feel depressed about feeling depressed, writing novels, haikus, building a computer, cloning animals, brain studying itself, appreciating the sunset, and more.

This begs the question, and even impoverishes imagination if you really think hard about it, are all these things, art, architecture, the internet, religion, sociological theory, space rocket, Einstein's thought experiments, emotions, dance, self-reflection merely products of chemical and electrical impulses in the human brain?

To be more exact - is the mind, in all its complexity, physical, the is, the chemical and electric networks in the brain? What about morality, love, ideas, empathy, compassion, imagination? Are these mere byproducts of physiological processes that are in a way similar to the chemical and electrical impulses experienced by other animals?

What are your thoughts? Is the mind all physical?
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
July 01 2013 01:12 GMT
#2
yes.
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
July 01 2013 01:12 GMT
#3
As far as we can tell, yes. Although, one hopes there is more to it than that.
Zahir
Profile Joined March 2012
United States947 Posts
July 01 2013 01:12 GMT
#4
Is there supposed to be an alternative to "all physical"? Have yet to see any evidence for it.

What is best? To crush the Zerg, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of the Protoss.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 01 2013 01:13 GMT
#5
Your brain is all chemical and electricity. The mind is a type of phenomena that isn't physical.
Birnd
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany42 Posts
July 01 2013 01:13 GMT
#6
I'm 99,99999999999% sure
SergioCQH
Profile Joined October 2010
United States143 Posts
July 01 2013 01:13 GMT
#7
On July 01 2013 10:12 aksfjh wrote:
As far as we can tell, yes. Although, one hopes there is more to it than that.


Why? Why does one need anything more when what we have is already so wonderful?
divito
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1213 Posts
July 01 2013 01:15 GMT
#8
The way I've always viewed it, is that humans are simply biological computers. Scientific research and capabilities are slowly starting to merge those thoughts. Everything that we create on a computer is no more physical than what your computer body does.

Akin to The Last Question, I have to wonder if we become the civilization that plants the seed upon another planet and let those ingredients re-create life.
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waxypants
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States479 Posts
July 01 2013 01:15 GMT
#9
On July 01 2013 10:13 SergioCQH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2013 10:12 aksfjh wrote:
As far as we can tell, yes. Although, one hopes there is more to it than that.


Why? Why does one need anything more when what we have is already so wonderful?


maybe for you.
ZackAttack
Profile Joined June 2011
United States884 Posts
July 01 2013 01:15 GMT
#10
Yes.
It's better aerodynamics for space. - Artosis
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 01 2013 01:15 GMT
#11
I don't understand what any of you are saying. Obviously your experiences aren't physical. We can't measure experiences, we can only measure their correlates.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
July 01 2013 01:17 GMT
#12
everything is physics (and physics is math)
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
politik
Profile Joined September 2010
409 Posts
July 01 2013 01:18 GMT
#13
On July 01 2013 10:15 travis wrote:
I don't understand what any of you are saying. Obviously your experiences aren't physical. We can't measure experiences, we can only measure their correlates.


I think he's basically asking if you believe in a soul, or free will, or whatever other bullshit our ancestors came up with to explain consciousness.
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
July 01 2013 01:21 GMT
#14
I'm positive it is, it's just so complex people start imagining it isn't. I expect that in time we will figure the brain out quite well. (probably decades or centuries)
Acertos
Profile Joined February 2012
France852 Posts
July 01 2013 01:21 GMT
#15
Yes the mind is all physical but you are mistaken about human beings having consciousness and not animals.

Unlike what's said by most philosophers who think that humans are superior to animals, animals have consciousness but to a different degree.
Just like when a child feels alive the animals might feel alive too. Some octopuses are extremely smart and can solve complex things. Monkeys can learn the sign language and express their emotions with it.


Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
July 01 2013 01:22 GMT
#16
Im attempting to use rhetoric to try to poke a hole in the way people think about this stuff. People are disturbingly materialistic.
coverpunch
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2093 Posts
July 01 2013 01:23 GMT
#17
The brain is all "chemistry and electricity" like the internet is just a bunch of 0s and 1s.

On some simplistic level it's true, but once you dig into it, there's much more to it than just that.
julianto
Profile Joined December 2010
2292 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-01 01:32:45
July 01 2013 01:23 GMT
#18
What happens when an anencephalic child is born with a large part of its brain missing? Even if he had a "soul" (if souls exist) that soul cannot substitute for the lack of a cerebral brain. The soul is about as useful to us and science as a deistic god.

If you damage the brain, you can affect the personality of the person. What does it mean when you say a kind "soul" or mean "soul"? Phineas Gage is an example of a person whose personality (or -soul) changed due to a physical change to his brain.
Could you change a soul by physically changing the brain? The soul is absurd, unnecessary, and irrelevant.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
July 01 2013 01:24 GMT
#19
No.
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
TheBigO
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States97 Posts
July 01 2013 01:24 GMT
#20
I feel like this question is impossible to answer. It all comes down to your own beliefs on how you perceive a mind (including your own mind). Personally, this question is a bit too provocative and in depth for me to even consider.

It is these types of questions that we leave to philosophers .
I really need a better quote... but I have no ideas :( .
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