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mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
May 26 2019 19:28 GMT
#10541
Because they do magic on the UKIP/Brexit seats.

The Brexit Party currently has 14 seats, which are all(?) former UKIP seats, who are right now down to 2 seats but won much more in the last election.

But hey, this 0->24 story line reads much better...
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-26 19:31:04
May 26 2019 19:29 GMT
#10542
Makes perfect sense that way. How could I forget ukip...
so how much costs for a seat for the UK in 2019 until halloween?
I hope this will be refunded in the exit package
passive quaranstream fan
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
May 26 2019 20:53 GMT
#10543
Apparently Labour have done very badly and expecting a very bad night losing Remainers to the Lib Dems and Greens and Leavers to the Brexit Party.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-26 21:13:56
May 26 2019 21:09 GMT
#10544








first few results





Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2014 Posts
May 26 2019 21:11 GMT
#10545
Brexit party looking like they are smashing it.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
Rasalased
Profile Joined May 2019
89 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-26 21:16:48
May 26 2019 21:15 GMT
#10546
Yes, but it also means that according to them, Brexit has lost because they didn't get 50% or more, and all other parties are against Brexit.

Still truly amazing that people still voted for Brexit after the compete shitshow it has been.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
May 26 2019 21:16 GMT
#10547


Labour tanking hard and letting the more concentrated Brexit Party win the areas.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
May 26 2019 21:16 GMT
#10548
On May 27 2019 06:15 Rasalased wrote:
Yes, but it also means that according to them, Brexit has lost because they didn't get 50% or more, and all other parties are against Brexit.


Conservatives and UKIP are also pro brexit, Labour is 50:50 on Brexit the leadership is certainly pro Brexit.
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2014 Posts
May 26 2019 21:19 GMT
#10549
On May 27 2019 06:15 Rasalased wrote:
Yes, but it also means that according to them, Brexit has lost because they didn't get 50% or more, and all other parties are against Brexit.

Still truly amazing that people still voted for Brexit after the compete shitshow it has been.


That isn't true, you can't simplify it like that. If anything these initial polls show a glowing endorsement for Brexit.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22459 Posts
May 26 2019 21:23 GMT
#10550
It looks amazing for the Brexit Prty until you realize their seats should be compared against what UKIP got last time in which case its more of a plateau, people that hated the EU 5 years ago still hate the EU today, which is no surprise.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-26 21:25:34
May 26 2019 21:25 GMT
#10551
On May 27 2019 06:23 Gorsameth wrote:
It looks amazing for the Brexit Prty until you realize their seats should be compared against what UKIP got last time in which case its more of a plateau, people that hated the EU 5 years ago still hate the EU today, which is no surprise.


Its not a plateu UKIP got 27% in 2014 and now Brexit Party is looking around 35% meanwhile UKIP still exist getting a few %
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22459 Posts
May 26 2019 21:27 GMT
#10552
On May 27 2019 06:25 Zaros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2019 06:23 Gorsameth wrote:
It looks amazing for the Brexit Prty until you realize their seats should be compared against what UKIP got last time in which case its more of a plateau, people that hated the EU 5 years ago still hate the EU today, which is no surprise.


Its not a plateu UKIP got 27% in 2014 and now Brexit Party is looking around 35% meanwhile UKIP still exist getting a few %
This says 24 seats, which is the same UKIP got last time.
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1132707971669086212/photo/1
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-26 21:37:52
May 26 2019 21:30 GMT
#10553





Brexit party beating cons in scotland



erm these are some big results



Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-26 21:57:13
May 26 2019 21:55 GMT
#10554
east of england declared



iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
May 26 2019 22:03 GMT
#10555
One hell of a set of protest votes.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-26 22:18:39
May 26 2019 22:06 GMT
#10556
London Results





Brexit Party gain an additional MEP in London vs 2014 UKIP

Brexit Party Win Peterborough big, could be interesting stats for the incoming by election

Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-26 23:35:43
May 26 2019 22:26 GMT
#10557
Wales has declared



West Midlands:



Yorkshire and the Humber:



South West:



South East:



North West:

Rasalased
Profile Joined May 2019
89 Posts
May 26 2019 23:33 GMT
#10558
On May 27 2019 06:16 Zaros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2019 06:15 Rasalased wrote:
Yes, but it also means that according to them, Brexit has lost because they didn't get 50% or more, and all other parties are against Brexit.


Conservatives and UKIP are also pro brexit, Labour is 50:50 on Brexit the leadership is certainly pro Brexit.


Not according to Farage & co. In their worldview, Brexit lost this vote.
iPlaY.NettleS
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Australia4428 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-26 23:48:28
May 26 2019 23:48 GMT
#10559
On May 27 2019 08:33 Rasalased wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2019 06:16 Zaros wrote:
On May 27 2019 06:15 Rasalased wrote:
Yes, but it also means that according to them, Brexit has lost because they didn't get 50% or more, and all other parties are against Brexit.


Conservatives and UKIP are also pro brexit, Labour is 50:50 on Brexit the leadership is certainly pro Brexit.


Not according to Farage & co. In their worldview, Brexit lost this vote.

You're really clutching at straws here buddy.
Anyway if Farage can retain his one Scotland seat from UKIP then he finishes on 29, a 5 seat improvement from 2014.Brexit party wins all English regions outside of London, Brexit party wins Wales with 2/4.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7PvoI6gvQs
Kerotan
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
England2111 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-05-26 23:58:03
May 26 2019 23:55 GMT
#10560
Labour lost this vote badly and here is why its worse than the tories

The tories have been divided down brexit lines for sometime: from the polling the party members seem to be in favour of hard Brexit approaches, and while they have sunk down and suffered in the past year, the path is clear. Get Boris, get No Deal, steal all the Brexit Party votes, ??? Profit!

The labour stance however has been a unmitigated disaster however: While not taking a strong enough stance on either side of the brexit debate in order to try and not lose their "working class" heartlands in the north. And doing this waiting for the tories to self destruct before aggressive moves: they have been haemorrhaging votes to all comers. There is no centre ground for labour, maybe not for anyone on this issue. You can try and be a wizard and exact compromise and negotiate, but look how well that worked out for May.

Further, unlike the Tory party, the much larger labour membership is very pro remain, and for the leadership to go against their members is not a winning strategy in the long term.

So Labour, you need to categorically pick a side, and it needs to be a strong anti-pole of whatever the new tory leader promotes. The tory party is the weakest its been in ages and still you fucking suck.

Its amazing.
Nerdette // External revolution - Internal revolution // Fabulous // I raise my hands to heaven of curiosity // I don't know what to ask for // What has it got for me? // Kerribear
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