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This is an interesting point. A white tory comes out as having extreme views (for the UK) on abortion etc.
Note the difference in coverage between this guy Rees-Mogg and that of Sadiq Kahn, the muslim mayor who repeatedly voted in favour of same sex marriage and is outwardly pro choice. Rees-Mogg is an authentic 'Englishman' and Kahn is labelled a terrorist sympathizer and a supporter of extremism.
Where are these liberal British values we hear about when there's a difference in religion or skin colour in play?
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I keep seeing this Rees-Mogg fellow talked up by conservative Brits as a shining example of competent political conservatism. What's his deal, he seems like a normal "I'm scared of non-straight non-white people" POS.
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On September 10 2017 21:26 farvacola wrote:
I keep seeing this Rees-Mogg fellow talked up by conservative Brits as a shining example of competent political conservatism. What's his deal, he seems like a normal "I'm scared of non-straight non-white people" POS.
If political careers were built on smarmy comments alone I could understand his rise.
Call me cynical, hell get me a tinfoil hat, but it certainly seems like his type are always wheeled out at troubled times for the tories. All of a sudden while the party makes an utter fucking mess out of Brexit and is divided, falling apart, and corrupt to the core, here comes the loveable rogueish tory boy with a witty putdown, authentic british values and a posh accent.
He's no more the saviour of the tory party than Boris fucking Johnson.
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On September 10 2017 21:37 Jockmcplop wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2017 21:26 farvacola wrote:
I keep seeing this Rees-Mogg fellow talked up by conservative Brits as a shining example of competent political conservatism. What's his deal, he seems like a normal "I'm scared of non-straight non-white people" POS. If political careers were built on smarmy comments alone I could understand his rise. Call me cynical, hell get me a tinfoil hat, but it certainly seems like his type are always wheeled out at troubled times for the tories. All of a sudden while the party makes an utter fucking mess out of Brexit and is divided, falling apart, and corrupt to the core, here comes the loveable rogueish tory boy with a witty putdown, authentic british values and a posh accent. He's no more the saviour of the tory party than Boris fucking Johnson.
Would Labour deal with Brexit better? If so, how?
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On September 11 2017 05:00 sc-darkness wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2017 21:37 Jockmcplop wrote:On September 10 2017 21:26 farvacola wrote:
I keep seeing this Rees-Mogg fellow talked up by conservative Brits as a shining example of competent political conservatism. What's his deal, he seems like a normal "I'm scared of non-straight non-white people" POS. If political careers were built on smarmy comments alone I could understand his rise. Call me cynical, hell get me a tinfoil hat, but it certainly seems like his type are always wheeled out at troubled times for the tories. All of a sudden while the party makes an utter fucking mess out of Brexit and is divided, falling apart, and corrupt to the core, here comes the loveable rogueish tory boy with a witty putdown, authentic british values and a posh accent. He's no more the saviour of the tory party than Boris fucking Johnson. Would Labour deal with Brexit better? If so, how?
I'm not sure they would. I'm 50/50 on it I think. However, they aren't in charge and the people who are seem to not have a clue what they are doing, which considering half of them campaigned for Brexit is very worrying. Labour, however, would have put Keir Starmer in charge of it, a top lawyer, instead of David Davis, a bumbling fool. At least then we would have had a fighting chance of being able to negotiate with the EU instead of what appears to be an indefinite stalling strategy until our government can be bothered to do the requisite homework.
I don't think Labour would have really tried very hard to honour what the British public voted for though.
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Speaking of Brexit, I remember one of my colleagues saying that he voted for Brexit. Guess where he lives now. He lives in Spain. That said, he might still have a house in the UK, but it goes to show how ignorant some people are. Why vote for Brexit, then go to live in the EU?
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Well, that is best answered by himself, isn't it?
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Sure, but to hate the EU so much to vote to leave, then to do a 180-degree flip and to live in the EU is beyond my understanding.
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Norway28677 Posts
I agree that's beyond the norm, but we're mostly all hypocritical in some ways.  That said, in Norway, there's also a very, very significant overlap between the 'migrates to spain' and 'doesn't want immigrants in norway' groups.
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I don't know. In my opinion, it's like rats escaping a sinking ship because Brexit is exactly a sinking ship. Titanic 2.0. I don't expect any significant gain in economy for the UK. Maybe a few trade deals here and there to pretend something is happening, but nothing nice unless there are some sacrifices (e.g. trade deal with the US).
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Would you mind actually asking him? Maybe he has a specific reasoning or something.
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United Kingdom13775 Posts
Meh, it's not much different from voting against a tax cut for the wealthy when it would benefit you personally. It's often times best to vote against your short-term interests in favor of a matter more meaningful in a larger scale.
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Some stats
June 2015: 709 GBP = 1000 euros
Now: 900 GBP = 1000 euros
gg Brexit
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United Kingdom13775 Posts
This just in: currency exchange rates respond to market shocks such as a large political development.
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Well it seems relevant to point out considering that a certain pro-BREXIT poster who has now left the forum argued that UK economy wouldn't suffer in any way and that the GBP would be strengthened compared to the euro because of all the magnificent potential trade deals they would get.
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On September 14 2017 07:06 Ghostcom wrote:
Well it seems relevant to point out considering that a certain pro-BREXIT poster who has now left the forum argued that UK economy wouldn't suffer in any way and that the GBP would be strengthened compared to the euro because of all the magnificent potential trade deals they would get.
A poster who will remain nameless then revised their argument to say that a weakening pound was beneficial to the UK economy so his prediction was true.
Welcome to Brexit logic.
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Well, I guess half-right at least  Although I'm unsure how a weakened pound is going to help when you can't actually export anything.
Sidenote: I honestly just couldn't remember his name - wasn't actually trying to be cute about it.
EDIT: Found the name!
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To be fair I believe Bardtown was of the opinion that any short term economic damage was worth the price for sovereignty.
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Oh he was. He just didn't think there would be any to speak of. He literally gave weekly updates on the development of the exchange rate between GBP and EUR.
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In this thread now all we can do is argue with the ghost of bardtown.
Its a shame really.
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