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On June 24 2013 23:37 Liquid`TLO wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 23:35 namste wrote:On June 24 2013 23:33 Big-t wrote:On June 24 2013 23:32 theodorus12 wrote: That's pretty sad, this is supposed to be a gaming site. Stop shoving your political agenda in peoples faces. This! You will loose so many visitors! + Show Spoiler +Your internet has to be pretty freaking small if you can't visit any site that doesn't discriminate people. Speaking for myself and not Team Liquid, but I don't mind losing people from our community that are sexist, racist or discriminate people for any other reason.
Quoted for truth, i can only agree here.
Can people who want to show active support get the possibility to use the rainbow horsie as an icon?
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On June 24 2013 23:39 Big-t wrote: Please create an option for disabling this banner....
Or you can just stop coming to the site. Then those pesky challenges to your worldview won't be a problem!
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On June 24 2013 23:38 theodorus12 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 23:35 renaissanceMAN wrote:On June 24 2013 23:32 theodorus12 wrote: That's pretty sad, this is supposed to be a gaming site. Stop shoving your political agenda in peoples faces. how is changing the website's logo "shoving their political agenda in your face?" go crawl back into whatever hole you came out from. Well, putting the gay pride colours at the most viewed place pretty much is shoving it in our faces. And nice personal attack there. Are you worried that looking at the rainbow colored logo will make you gay?
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On June 24 2013 23:37 Liquid`TLO wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 23:35 namste wrote:On June 24 2013 23:33 Big-t wrote:On June 24 2013 23:32 theodorus12 wrote: That's pretty sad, this is supposed to be a gaming site. Stop shoving your political agenda in peoples faces. This! You will loose so many visitors! + Show Spoiler +Your internet has to be pretty freaking small if you can't visit any site that doesn't discriminate people. Speaking for myself and not Team Liquid, but I don't mind losing people from our community that are sexist, racist or discriminate people for any other reason.
Now that's a viewpoint I can side with. If a decision happens to weed out the scum from our site, well then, who gives a crap?
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On June 24 2013 23:40 renaissanceMAN wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 23:38 theodorus12 wrote:On June 24 2013 23:35 renaissanceMAN wrote:On June 24 2013 23:32 theodorus12 wrote: That's pretty sad, this is supposed to be a gaming site. Stop shoving your political agenda in peoples faces. how is changing the website's logo "shoving their political agenda in your face?" go crawl back into whatever hole you came out from. Well, putting the gay pride colours at the most viewed place pretty much is shoving it in our faces. And nice personal attack there. what's wrong with a rainbow? the fact that the colors are used by an organization to promote EQUALITY shouldn't mean anything. that's like saying using red white and blue in any instance is calling attention to america, they're colors, get over it.
I think you missed the fact that "rainbow-color" is something like the inofficial gay-symbol.
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United Kingdom36156 Posts
On June 24 2013 23:40 graNite wrote: im so sick of this whole discussion... the lgbt community is so annyoing... they are human beings like every other, like you and me. why do they have to make these parades and show everyone how they live?
Believe it or not, we do it for the sole reason to piss people off like you. Honestly, that's why.
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On June 24 2013 23:39 Big-t wrote: Please create an option for disabling this banner....
I think I know what the dash in your name stands for...
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Pretty amusing to see people whining about the banner. Gay politics aside, not like it's a popup or obnoxious in any way. It's pretty slick, in fact.
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Norway28554 Posts
On June 24 2013 23:40 r.Evo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 23:24 Liquid`Drone wrote:On June 24 2013 23:14 Big-t wrote: I love rainbows, but I hope that´s not the beginning of a pro-gay-TL....
It's not the beginning of a pro-gay-TL. Because TL has been pro-gay since it's conception. It is absolutely going to stay pro-gay though, and this is out way of vocalizing this. The reason why gay pride is the first social issue that made us funk up our banner, is that gay pride is the single social issue with the least amount of internal disagreement. Gays not being treated equally, everywhere, isn't really an anachronism, because there's no historical period where this inequality feels "correct", but it is still one of the most important issues of our time and age, and the internet is crucial for the enlightenment of people through the world. The basis of treating everyone equally to me is to... just treat them equally. The need to go out and tell the world how much you're supporting everyone equally is on a much, much lower level than TL just doing it over all those years. We have enough of people proclaiming their politically correct views posting flags and colors on Facebook and Twitter. Being pro-anything means that you kick the very thing that should be the basis for equality in the balls. Equally. PS: Maybe I'm wrong here, but I never perceived TL to be "pro-gay". For me TL is anti-discriminatory. Anti-stupid. Without paying attention to the color of one's skin or one's sexual orientation - which is what makes this place great.
In the event where someone are discriminated against in many ways, some positive discrimination is the only way to achieve equality.
besides, we have a plain, straight-maned horse in our banner 51 out of 52 weeks through the year.
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On June 24 2013 23:40 graNite wrote: im so sick of this whole discussion... the lgbt community is so annyoing... they are human beings like every other, like you and me. why do they have to make these parades and show everyone how they live?
Because people are killed and kill themselves for being gay, that is why.
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Great move by TL.. While i'm not gay (and honestly not really interested in the topic at all) i nethertheless think all other citizens in my country should have the same rights i have and every group who hasn't achieved this deserves my support.
I also won't miss any bigot who decides to leave TL because of this.
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On June 24 2013 23:33 Big-t wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 23:32 theodorus12 wrote: That's pretty sad, this is supposed to be a gaming site. Stop shoving your political agenda in peoples faces. This! You will loose so many visitors! That could only be a good thing for the community overall actually and I really hope that people offended by this does leave. And the horse looks fabulous btw.
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On June 24 2013 23:40 graNite wrote: im so sick of this whole discussion... the lgbt community is so annyoing... they are human beings like every other, like you and me. why do they have to make these parades and show everyone how they live? If we're human beings like every other, why do we not have the same rights? Why is being gay grounds for execution in many parts of the world? Whether you are sick of it or not, this discussion will keep happening until these things change.
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On June 24 2013 23:40 renaissanceMAN wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 23:38 theodorus12 wrote:On June 24 2013 23:35 renaissanceMAN wrote:On June 24 2013 23:32 theodorus12 wrote: That's pretty sad, this is supposed to be a gaming site. Stop shoving your political agenda in peoples faces. how is changing the website's logo "shoving their political agenda in your face?" go crawl back into whatever hole you came out from. Well, putting the gay pride colours at the most viewed place pretty much is shoving it in our faces. And nice personal attack there. what's wrong with a rainbow? the fact that the colors are used by an organization to promote EQUALITY shouldn't mean anything. that's like saying using red white and blue in any instance is calling attention to america, they're colors, get over it.
It's very obvious what the colours mean in this context. And like I said, this site is about eSports, not about pushing the political agenda of some people.
Discrimination is bad, I accept gays, they should have the same rights etc. but still think that it's disgusting. Especially if they feel the need to always express how different they are etc and the funny thing is most of the "normal gays" agree with that.
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On June 24 2013 23:41 Klondikebar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 23:39 Big-t wrote: Please create an option for disabling this banner.... Or you can just stop coming to the site. Then those pesky challenges to your worldview won't be a problem!
I simply feel extremely ashamed and disappointed that my most-favorite Internet-site tries to fight for gays...
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Netherlands6142 Posts
On June 24 2013 23:15 algue wrote: Politic on a video game website, that's gay
I like to think of this as humanism rather than politics tbh 
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On June 24 2013 23:39 Big-t wrote: Please create an option for disabling this banner....
Why are you so insecure ?
I'm glad TL does this, I'm proud to wear my TL hoodi . But still so much hate in gaming communities, even in this thread.
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On June 24 2013 23:40 graNite wrote: im so sick of this whole discussion... the lgbt community is so annyoing... they are human beings like every other, like you and me. why do they have to make these parades and show everyone how they live?
Because, unfortunately, here in America, being a part of the LGBT community isn't completely accepted as being "human beings like every other". At least, in the eyes of a (far too) large portion of the country.
The only way it will happen is if people stand up for what's right. I would love for this to be inherent knowledge and for everyone to be like "well yeah, of course they're the same as us, you're stupid for even considering they aren't". But that's going to be a bit off in the (hopefully not too distant) future.
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On June 24 2013 23:44 Big-t wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 23:41 Klondikebar wrote:On June 24 2013 23:39 Big-t wrote: Please create an option for disabling this banner.... Or you can just stop coming to the site. Then those pesky challenges to your worldview won't be a problem! I simply feel extremely ashamed and disappointed that my most-favorite Internet-site tries to fight for gays...
Deal with it. If you can't, good riddance.
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On June 24 2013 23:44 Shodaa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2013 23:39 Big-t wrote: Please create an option for disabling this banner.... Why are you so insecure ? I'm glad TL does this, I'm proud to wear my TL hoodi  . But still so much hate in gaming communities, even in this thread.
You gave me brilliant idea, can TL make a hoodi with this new horse on it?
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