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Lemonhead
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark31 Posts
April 28 2013 11:26 GMT
#141
Private company X gives employee Y a pay raise, and so what? They can do whatever they want with their money, and they probably think it's a good idea. What private companies want to do with their money is not subject to democracy or anything. We don't get to decide what Bobby should be earning, any more than you get to decide what I'm earning in my job.

Activision is free to pay him as much as they want, we are all free to dislike that and stop buying their products, and anyone is free to apply for Bobby's job if you think you can do a better job for the same money.

You might think you don't like the guy, or you might be jealous of the money, or think it's a little too much. Get over it.

Keep in mind, he's not funded by the government or taking the money from foreign aid or anything. The guy is working in a private company, and got a pay raise.
Sometimes the best defense is an insane offense.
Nausea
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden807 Posts
April 28 2013 11:29 GMT
#142
On April 28 2013 20:26 Lemonhead wrote:
Private company X gives employee Y a pay raise, and so what? They can do whatever they want with their money, and they probably think it's a good idea. What private companies want to do with their money is not subject to democracy or anything. We don't get to decide what Bobby should be earning, any more than you get to decide what I'm earning in my job.

Activision is free to pay him as much as they want, we are all free to dislike that and stop buying their products, and anyone is free to apply for Bobby's job if you think you can do a better job for the same money.

You might think you don't like the guy, or you might be jealous of the money, or think it's a little too much. Get over it.

Keep in mind, he's not funded by the government or taking the money from foreign aid or anything. The guy is working in a private company, and got a pay raise.


Lol. Give me that money and I will take the job, then let someone else do the job for me and pay them since I would be rich as hell.
Set it ablaze!
Morthy
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands78 Posts
April 28 2013 11:50 GMT
#143
Money =/= Amount of Work

Money == How much responsibility you have
ControlMonkey
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia3109 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-28 11:59:55
April 28 2013 11:59 GMT
#144
While I don't think any CEO is worth that much, Activision is well within their rights to overpay whoever they want as much as they want.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
April 28 2013 12:05 GMT
#145
Disgusting :/
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-28 12:15:03
April 28 2013 12:12 GMT
#146
On April 28 2013 20:26 Lemonhead wrote:
Private company X gives employee Y a pay raise, and so what? They can do whatever they want with their money, and they probably think it's a good idea. What private companies want to do with their money is not subject to democracy or anything. We don't get to decide what Bobby should be earning, any more than you get to decide what I'm earning in my job.

Activision is free to pay him as much as they want, we are all free to dislike that and stop buying their products, and anyone is free to apply for Bobby's job if you think you can do a better job for the same money.

You might think you don't like the guy, or you might be jealous of the money, or think it's a little too much. Get over it.

Keep in mind, he's not funded by the government or taking the money from foreign aid or anything. The guy is working in a private company, and got a pay raise.


Because there is something to be said for having a more balanced distribution of wealth in society. Especially in the USA:
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
April 28 2013 12:18 GMT
#147
It's just the value of the stock options he got which he has to spread out over five years. Stop being so stupid, people. His cash salary is exactly the same!
stroggozz
Profile Joined March 2013
New Zealand19 Posts
April 28 2013 12:18 GMT
#148
On April 28 2013 21:12 Recognizable wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 20:26 Lemonhead wrote:
Private company X gives employee Y a pay raise, and so what? They can do whatever they want with their money, and they probably think it's a good idea. What private companies want to do with their money is not subject to democracy or anything. We don't get to decide what Bobby should be earning, any more than you get to decide what I'm earning in my job.

Activision is free to pay him as much as they want, we are all free to dislike that and stop buying their products, and anyone is free to apply for Bobby's job if you think you can do a better job for the same money.

You might think you don't like the guy, or you might be jealous of the money, or think it's a little too much. Get over it.

Keep in mind, he's not funded by the government or taking the money from foreign aid or anything. The guy is working in a private company, and got a pay raise.


Because there is something to be said for having a more balanced distribution of wealth in society. Especially in the USA:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPKKQnijnsM


i raise you a global inequality:

i drink ur milkshake
evilcommiedictator
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia13 Posts
April 28 2013 12:21 GMT
#149
Luckily all the artists and devs get a raise as well too, right? Right?
Oh I see, America, wd
So, 20-pool works well, yes?
Anonymous_Coward
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom1347 Posts
April 28 2013 12:27 GMT
#150
On April 28 2013 21:21 evilcommiedictator wrote:
Luckily all the artists and devs get a raise as well too, right? Right?
Oh I see, America, wd



There's plenty of things to bitch at America for, their healthcare, their attempts to police the world, and so on, but this is just silly.

Last time I checked, Australia wasn't a socialist utopia, and CEOs still get handsomely rewarded there, while the grunts doing the work get as little as possible. This is a global trend, not one limited to America.
Adel
Profile Joined February 2011
Belgium86 Posts
April 28 2013 12:44 GMT
#151
On April 28 2013 21:05 Gladiator333 wrote:
Disgusting :/


In what way is this disgusting?
What's the difference? He could make billions, who cares?
Taguchi
Profile Joined February 2003
Greece1575 Posts
April 28 2013 12:49 GMT
#152
America is the trendsetter though, some annoyance is definitely warranted.

That this happens in a gaming company, where lots of people from this forum actually do know, and not speculate about, which people are responsible for the end product (developers, designers and artists) makes it all the more aggravating.

Yeah the guy is getting paid in stock options meaning he has a vested interest in the company doing well (smart payment plan) but he is essentially exploiting the overabundance of people wanting in the gaming industry (keeps wages low, profits high) to do this. All one needs to be is an asshole, not a genious.

And to the capitalism, fuck yeah people, would you honestly rather reward a suit for successfully paying low wages with an enormous salary or pay him a big salary (say... 1mil? that's still 20 times the salary of the average developer) for doing his job and pay the people responsible for your product a very modest extra sum? The shareholders see the same number in the end in both situations so they could probably care less, the office would be full of smiling faces in the morning and the CEO still gets to lord it over everyone, financially and otherwise.
Great minds might think alike, but fastest hands rule the day~
Detri
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom683 Posts
April 28 2013 12:52 GMT
#153
You want the best you gotta pay, end of. He must be worth it, companies this size aren't in the habit of throwing money away. There are probably only a handful of people on the planet could do his job.
The poor are thieves, beggars and whores, the rich are politicians, solicitors and courtesans...
Hitch-22
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
Canada753 Posts
April 28 2013 12:56 GMT
#154
Further goes to prove my point that the CoD games are just a money pit where little effort is put into them for maximum financial gain. I still stand by saying MW2 was a better graphical game then Black 1/2 and MW3, it was also more fun (as was CoD4)
"We all let our sword do the talking for us once in awhile I guess" - Bregor, the legendary critical striker and critical misser who triple crits 2 horses with 1 arrow but lands 3 1's in a row
mechengineer123
Profile Joined March 2013
Ukraine711 Posts
April 28 2013 12:58 GMT
#155
On April 28 2013 14:36 sluggaslamoo wrote:
Meanwhile Activision developers are struggling to make a living...

A "standard" software developer at blizzard/activision gets at least 75k$ a year. Sure that's not rich, but struggling to make a living? Really?
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
April 28 2013 13:00 GMT
#156
On April 28 2013 21:58 mechengineer123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 14:36 sluggaslamoo wrote:
Meanwhile Activision developers are struggling to make a living...

A "standard" software developer at blizzard/activision gets at least 75k$ a year. Sure that's not rich, but struggling to make a living? Really?


Source?
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
NEEDZMOAR
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden1277 Posts
April 28 2013 13:04 GMT
#157
Hahahaha I dont fucking even... Capitalism always makes me laugh :D
mechengineer123
Profile Joined March 2013
Ukraine711 Posts
April 28 2013 13:07 GMT
#158
On April 28 2013 22:00 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 21:58 mechengineer123 wrote:
On April 28 2013 14:36 sluggaslamoo wrote:
Meanwhile Activision developers are struggling to make a living...

A "standard" software developer at blizzard/activision gets at least 75k$ a year. Sure that's not rich, but struggling to make a living? Really?


Source?

glassdoor[dot]com - Blizzard software engineer 80k/y, Senior software engineer 125k/y
teapot
Profile Joined October 2007
United Kingdom266 Posts
April 28 2013 13:09 GMT
#159
On April 28 2013 21:52 Detri wrote:
You want the best you gotta pay, end of. He must be worth it, companies this size aren't in the habit of throwing money away. There are probably only a handful of people on the planet could do his job.


You forgot the /Sarcasm tag.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
April 28 2013 13:11 GMT
#160
On April 28 2013 22:07 mechengineer123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 22:00 Grettin wrote:
On April 28 2013 21:58 mechengineer123 wrote:
On April 28 2013 14:36 sluggaslamoo wrote:
Meanwhile Activision developers are struggling to make a living...

A "standard" software developer at blizzard/activision gets at least 75k$ a year. Sure that's not rich, but struggling to make a living? Really?


Source?

glassdoor[dot]com - Blizzard software engineer 80k/y, Senior software engineer 125k/y


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