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HeavenS
Profile Joined August 2004
Colombia2259 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-23 19:38:10
February 23 2013 18:27 GMT
#61
First off let me offer you condolences, you are an admirable person who obviously loved your mother dearly.

There are a couple of things that bug me about this whole situation. What has become of this man? Is he not even a suspect? Have the police completely ruled out foul play? Im sorry but the police seem to be doing a pretty shitty job of investigating this. There was an arson incident that occurred to your family a short while back, and now your mother is dead and toxicology reports indicate that she was under the influence of meds that DID NOT BELONG to her. I mean...what more evidence could the police possibly need to at the very minimum pursue foul play as a POSSIBILITY. Isn't there a way to tie these meds to the guy your accusing? If he has prescription for these pills and they were found in your moms system at the time of her death that in and of itself is a CRIME. Idk how it is in Australia but in the states he would surely get in trouble for distributing that medication to your mother and it might even be cause of at least a manslaughter charge. Another thing that bothers me is this, you say he emptied out her bank accounts. How?? Again, here in the states you can't even withdraw money without there being a camera right in your face at the ATM and even worse if you go to the actual bank and withdraw from a teller there are like ten cameras pointed at you. So how did he withdraw this money? Unless they had a joint bank account or something? If they didnt have a joint bank account and he really withdrew her money then it should be easy to get him on camera doing the deed, and if he withdrew the money at the exact time that your mother died that is PLENTY of reason for the POLICE to suspect foul play. Are they really so negligent? If they catch him withdrawing her money, they could at least arrest him and hold him for that while they continue to investigate your mother's death.

Also, like others have said here, i would definitely go to the media if i were you. How sure are you that this guy murdered your mom? If your sure, then do it. Make sure they print about the arson and about this, there is no way the police will not investigate it further if only for the sole purpose of covering their ass. Also as some other people have mentioned, USE REDDIT. Reddit is a huge website with a huge user base which = a huge resource at your disposal. Make a post and link them to this thread or something, i guarantee you an Australian will weigh in on the situation and alot of lawyers can provide very sound advice all free of cost to you. Perhaps if it gets big enough the media will even pick up on it all on their own. I love my mother, and if this happened to her idk what i would do. I'd kill the fucking bastard if this didn't pan out (edit: dont do this), but i really hope that it ends well for you. Stay strong you'll be okay You have the whole internet behind you!
Im cooler than the other side of the pillow.
Iyventrica
Profile Joined August 2012
United States20 Posts
February 23 2013 18:36 GMT
#62
I'm really sorry for your loss!!!

One aspect of the tabloids, not mentioned, is the ability to get the world to work for you and cover ground fast. They may not be able to apply direct pressure to the investigative system, but they definitely can draw attention by a huge amount of medical people, who I'm sure will all reach out to you with their opinion.

Even news stations have their own "med expert" who gets on to talk about criminal cases and aspects. Even if they won't air your story, they may have their own expert look at it and give an opinion which could be helpful!

OMG Best of luck!! <3
ODKStevez
Profile Joined February 2011
Ireland1225 Posts
February 23 2013 19:23 GMT
#63
I hope you find the person and bring him to justice. I am so sorry to hear what has happened to you, and we all should be flattered that he came to us as a community to help him. Even though we cannot, we (and I speak for most of us) so happy you did so. Best of luck man! <3 R.I.P to your mother too and everything will be okay <3
Luppa <3
-CheekyDuck-
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia398 Posts
February 23 2013 23:08 GMT
#64

Edit:
they did know each other yes.
he was pulling a disability con
she was his career
he had her pin number, he was found guilty, but only fined.
.....
I just finished reading the brief again with a tooth comb with my sister, most of the summery from the crown had wrong dates and incorrect information, the report to the coroner was mostly incorrect as if they only skimmed through the brief.

UPDATE:
4.30pm
the ambulance workers found her on her back on the floor,
but lividity was on the right side of her body and inner left leg.
(autopsy: only right bum cheek and only left hand has a bruise)
lividity was on the left side of her face!
blood was on the arm on the left side,
testimony that lividty was set

midnight
Forensic attended the scene (the person has had this title for 12 months, only 1 person)
most of what they did was take photos
what they did find that lividity was on her back and could not be fixed, could be blanced.
front tooth pressed into bottom lip.

so for a natural death?
so when sleeping on her right side she twisted her head, she suffocated face down but at some point her face was moved/twisted more further into the couch? i don't believe you can naturally fall asleep in that position without assistance.

It is worth noting that lividity begins to work through the deceased within thirty minutes of their heart stopping and can last up to twelve hours. Only up to the first six hours of death can lividity be altered by moving the body. After the six hour mark lividity is fixed as blood vessels begin to break down within the body.

With this information they cannot give me a time of death smaller that a 12 hour window?

I believe the reason my mother has not been investigated more than basic "new" possibly training staff and young crown investigators is that she was very poor. And the person in question is a low life. If my family were not demanding every step of the way, this would already be over and most likely ruled as a suicide (we were once told that it was, but we demanded a further investigation and that possibility is now taken off the table, but when we buried her we didn't know, just in case i asked the priest to try and give her extra forgiveness if she did kill herself). We live in a world on who is worth your time and who is not, but i think she is worth digging to the bottom for.
More expensive than a mothership
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1603 Posts
February 23 2013 23:15 GMT
#65
On February 23 2013 17:13 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2013 17:11 Fenrax wrote:
On February 23 2013 17:10 Plexa wrote:
There is nothing that the SC community can do to help prove or disprove this case. You need to go talk to a good lawyer as soon as you can.



She mentioned lack of funding, maybe the SC2 community can help there? If this is legit, this is no begging thread.

I understand that. Unless there is an Australian lawyer or law student sitting around on these forums willing to help then there really isn't much we can do except offering support. And indeed, I'm more than happy for this thread to remain for that purpose.


You would be surprised what a huge group of nerds can accomplish.
Areon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States273 Posts
February 23 2013 23:18 GMT
#66
That's fucked up man, condolences. Hope shit works out for you. Like people are saying get a lawyer. But really, is this the place to say put stuff like this..?
ziggurat
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada847 Posts
February 23 2013 23:26 GMT
#67
Have you received a copy of the autopsy report? If so, can you post it here?
BannedForTwoSc2Games
Profile Joined February 2013
1 Post
Last Edited: 2013-02-23 23:29:37
February 23 2013 23:29 GMT
#68
--- Nuked ---
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
February 23 2013 23:29 GMT
#69
On February 24 2013 08:26 ziggurat wrote:
Have you received a copy of the autopsy report? If so, can you post it here?


I would seriously discourage that. Autopsy reports can be hard enough to read and understand fully for a layman and I do not think that having 1095475 people reading it and each giving their input without knowing their background will help in any way.
Battleaxe
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States843 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-23 23:39:36
February 23 2013 23:39 GMT
#70
Sorry for your loss, I hope someone on TL can help provide something you're looking for. Unfortunately, I don't have any expertise that would be applicable here
Without a community, we're all just a bunch of geeks.
Hikari
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
1914 Posts
February 23 2013 23:42 GMT
#71
Sorry for your loss.

I wonder if reddit (/r/askreddit?) can help you out.

The forensic may be "new" but i trust that he/she should at least spent years in the education system to at least follow the protocol: if anything the person would be extra careful since they are "new" to the job.

Incorrect dates on important reports (which are important evidence) might have an effect on a trial... should get that fixed. For all I know they could have done something as dumb as examining the wrong body.
ziggurat
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada847 Posts
February 23 2013 23:42 GMT
#72
The autopsy report will set out the pathologist's findings and the reason why they think it's not a homicide. As a criminal lawyer I've read a lot of them and I don't find them that hard to read. If the OP has the report and thinks there are errors then that would be a good place to start.
Seldentar
Profile Joined May 2011
United States888 Posts
February 23 2013 23:42 GMT
#73
On February 24 2013 08:29 BannedForTwoSc2Games wrote:
Look, I've tried everything. I've used the contact form many times, but I've never even been given the dignity of a reply.

I've wrote long messages before, but at the end of the day, I'm tired and just, dissapointed.

I was banned months ago for playing two games of sc2 on battle.net with a maphack to see what it was like. This community is my home, this game is my home. Maybe Plexa was having a shitty day. I don't know and I don't really bother about that.

All I'm asking is a reasonable response.

User was banned for this post.


...wut?
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
February 23 2013 23:45 GMT
#74
Best of luck to you. I'm sorry for your loss
#TheOneTrueDong
Baytuts
Profile Joined January 2009
Brazil101 Posts
February 23 2013 23:50 GMT
#75
I'm also very sorry for your loss.

I also don't have the expertise for this kind of problem. Although I guess ziggurat's opinion is something you should really consider, since finding a flaw on the report is a major thing.

I sincerely hope you can achieve the truth.
...
Hren
Profile Joined April 2011
Slovenia86 Posts
February 24 2013 00:12 GMT
#76
I've completed my exam in forensic medicine about two weeks ago. I have it written in my literature, that suffocation by blockade of external air pathways (occlusio nasi et oris) can (and did) indeed happen by accident when people fell asleep on their faces (after epileptic seizure or when very drunk).


Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
February 24 2013 00:22 GMT
#77
My condolences, best of luck with your case.
WriterXiao8~~
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
February 24 2013 00:39 GMT
#78
I'm sorry for your loss, my condolences to you and your family.

What I'm about to write is certainly not what you want to hear, and I will preface it by saying I am not a medical expert by any means. That said, I used to work for a life insurance company. I have heard of cases where a person suffocated after falling asleep in a bad position. Typically, this was caused by the person having taken a medication beforehand, or a medical condition that the person had such as sleep apnea. A person taking these medications or having one of these conditions is a significant contributor to their risk of death due to suffocation, and increases their cost of insurance. On the other hand, because it is actually a common thing, it is possible that the coroner jumped to a conclusion - ziggurat's post is a good one. Best of luck, I hope you find peace and justice.
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paddyz
Profile Joined May 2011
Ireland628 Posts
February 24 2013 00:40 GMT
#79
My deepest condolences, I am truly sorry I can not be of help. Best of luck.
Zealotdriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1557 Posts
February 24 2013 01:09 GMT
#80
Accept the fact that you will never get justice.
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