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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
January 24 2013 17:38 GMT
#141
On that thought, am I the only one thought of a skin disease, when he/she looked at a picture of the earth at night, with the human cities forming bright dots everywhere?
(e.g. http://latimesphoto.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/la-1206-nasa02.jpg)
JonnyBNoHo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States6277 Posts
January 24 2013 17:38 GMT
#142
On January 25 2013 01:59 Shival wrote:
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On January 25 2013 01:55 Vandrad wrote:
On January 24 2013 23:49 GrimmJ wrote:
People are having fewer and fewer children, so eventually this will all balance out.

-32 C Here, so a little cold. Typical Canadian weather.

That is totally wrong. You're just looking at first world countries here.

This is an interesting link on the subject: http://www.breathingearth.net/


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population

Read. Overall, human population growth is slowing.

Correct. I think the current estimate is that the world's population will top out around 10 billion lads and ladies.

[image loading]

Source

Alternatively Hans Rosling addresses the issue in a TED talk here.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
January 24 2013 17:38 GMT
#143
This kind of sensationalist nonsense pisses me off because it not only makes zero sense, it actually makes it harder to argue for proper environmental care as it sets up an easy strawman to demolish when real issues come up.

Disappointed, Sir Attenborough. Disappointed indeed.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
January 24 2013 17:39 GMT
#144
so basically we're a plague for everything else arround us
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
JazzNL
Profile Joined March 2012
182 Posts
January 24 2013 17:40 GMT
#145
Obviously, you have to excel at ignorance not to have been aware of this.

Humans are a cancer to this planet and stopping our population growth alone will change nothing in the long run.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44400 Posts
January 24 2013 17:41 GMT
#146
On January 25 2013 02:38 FuzzyJAM wrote:
This kind of sensationalist nonsense pisses me off because it not only makes zero sense, it actually makes it harder to argue for proper environmental care as it sets up an easy strawman to demolish when real issues come up.

Disappointed, Sir Attenborough. Disappointed indeed.

I suspect he knows full well it's a nonsense but also knows that sensationalism makes headlines.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
radscorpion9
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada2252 Posts
January 24 2013 17:43 GMT
#147
The first thing that struck me is that he making a very general statement about all of humanity which isn't true. There are many people who try to live in harmony with their environment and make sustainable choices. But I doubt Attenborough meant to speak in such a technically accurate way, so he probably knows this. He just seems to be going for a roughly true, somewhat bombastic statement that expresses his anger at how the human race has exploited the Earth over the last few decades, without heeding environmental warnings. In essence he's a bit angry, and he's saying things which aren't technically accurate.

The second part of his statement is basic logic. I don't think quoting him should really reveal anything new (except to some people who may be ignorant of this issue entirely). I do wonder how bad climate change will be though. It seems like lately the scientists are giving some pretty bad warnings, about how it will be worse than they thought in terms of the frequency and size of natural disasters. Maybe its a little callous...but I am kind of excited. I wonder what this new world will be like? I am imagining a future dystopia where we live underground, and poke outside once in a while to rummage through our wrecked cities for scrap. And I would be a sentry at one of the underground cities, occasionally taking out a bandit and picking through his weapons for something useful. It sounds so cool in my imagination, probably not so much in reality.
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-24 17:50:09
January 24 2013 17:47 GMT
#148
On January 25 2013 02:43 radscorpion9 wrote:
The first thing that struck me is that he making a very general statement about all of humanity which isn't true. There are many people who try to live in harmony with their environment and make sustainable choices. But I doubt Attenborough meant to speak in such a technically accurate way, so he probably knows this. He just seems to be going for a roughly true, somewhat bombastic statement that expresses his anger at how the human race has exploited the Earth over the last few decades, without heeding environmental warnings. In essence he's a bit angry, and he's saying things which aren't technically accurate.

The second part of his statement is basic logic. I don't think quoting him should really reveal anything new (except to some people who may be ignorant of this issue entirely). I do wonder how bad climate change will be though. It seems like lately the scientists are giving some pretty bad warnings, about how it will be worse than they thought in terms of the frequency and size of natural disasters. Maybe its a little callous...but I am kind of excited. I wonder what this new world will be like? I am imagining a future dystopia where we live underground, and poke outside once in a while to rummage through our wrecked cities for scrap. And I would be a sentry at one of the underground cities, occasionally taking out a bandit and picking through his weapons for something useful. It sounds so cool in my imagination, probably not so much in reality.


lol your name is fitting. You've been playing a bit too much Fallout.
ZiarDS
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States67 Posts
January 24 2013 17:51 GMT
#149
This is kinda sad and arugment like this just means that your continuing in your own view without looking at any others which is very improtant. The american poulations is decreasing it is only because of of increasing imagration that we are experancing a growing community. Not to mention you could fit the eitire US population in Texus confrontably. Their is no proof that we have a defiant effect of the planet. Their is more evidence that our effect on the plannet is so little and may be from entirly other factors that we cannot ever change it's envirmental pattern. their is also evidance that reducing and changing our diet may have a bigger effect compative to the recycling. Only an incredably small percent of the world is going to change is habits because of a nonevdent argument like this one presented.
algue
Profile Joined July 2011
France1436 Posts
January 24 2013 17:54 GMT
#150
We are a plaguuuuuuu ! It'skinda cool :D
We have to find a way to colonize new planets asap or it wont be fun in a couple centuries though ><

If we find a way to colonize new planet and we found out that there is other people in the galaxy they'll say of us "fear the humans ! They are world eaters ! They come to your planet, take everything that is on it and then look for an other planet !" That would be so cool !

About winter it's not that cold here, i'm leaving near the Alps.
rly ?
HellRoxYa
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1614 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-24 17:55:48
January 24 2013 17:55 GMT
#151
On January 25 2013 00:12 BadAim wrote:
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On January 25 2013 00:00 KNICK wrote:
He is right about the plague part. I mean, this is kind of a no-brainer, isn't it? If we were not here, the Earth would be much better off healthwise than it is right now. I don't think anyone can deny that, no matter how many organisations and campaigns to preserve nature we might start. Limiting population growth would be a good first step to the only relevant thing that we as a species could ultimately achieve: our own extinction. Of course, that will never happen of our own volition. But I am confident that, in time, we will either destroy this planet and go down with it or it will destroy us.

I just hope space travel won't make progress fast enough for us to infest other worlds as well. That would be a shame.




This is sad and true at the same time.


Actually, it's dumb. Other species compete for the spot that we hold. In a very real sense, we won. I fail to see what is wrong about that.

And as far as "planet health" goes:
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JonnyBNoHo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States6277 Posts
January 24 2013 17:55 GMT
#152
On January 25 2013 02:38 JustPassingBy wrote:
On that thought, am I the only one thought of a skin disease, when he/she looked at a picture of the earth at night, with the human cities forming bright dots everywhere?
(e.g. http://latimesphoto.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/la-1206-nasa02.jpg)

I find those pictures to be beautiful.

Regardless, skin diseases are part of nature
TheDraken
Profile Joined July 2011
United States640 Posts
January 24 2013 17:59 GMT
#153
then why is it so damn cold right now here? wtf. it should be 28F right now. it's been frikin 16F for like the past 2 weeks.
fast food. y u no make me fast? <( ಠ益ಠ <)
E.H Eager
Profile Joined August 2011
United States227 Posts
January 24 2013 18:03 GMT
#154
Wow, I feel pretty lame now thinking that 9 F is cold. I'll just stop bitching about it now
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
January 24 2013 18:06 GMT
#155
A lot of people are talking about humans disturbing the 'equilibrium' of the planet as if nature and its ecosystems are perfectly balanced and constant things. Imbalances and even destruction of ecosystems have happened constantly for as long as life has existed, we are just the only ones who feel bad about it when we see it. Extinctions are a natural and necessary part of life, we just happen to feel sad and dislike it when it happens.

I'm all for helping the environment, etc, but only because I see it as a direct benefit to the human species and a good move for the continuation of intelligent life, not because of some half-baked 'omg we are hurting the planet gaiz' kind of mentality.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
MooLen
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany501 Posts
January 24 2013 18:09 GMT
#156
On January 24 2013 23:49 GrimmJ wrote:
People are having fewer and fewer children, so eventually this will all balance out.

-32 C Here, so a little cold. Typical Canadian weather.


The people only have less children in the "rich" countrys. The problem is for example africa because they dont know how "protected sex" works.
fluidin
Profile Joined November 2011
Singapore1084 Posts
January 24 2013 18:10 GMT
#157
man, we sure like to talk about how much of a big shot we are on earth, eh?

i wonder what more advanced species would think of us
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
January 24 2013 18:11 GMT
#158
imagine you have a farm with lots of fertile soil and beautiful crops. now imagine a swarm of locusts come and eat all of your crops. now imagine that you put too much Monsanto super grade kill em all pesticide on your crops. now imagine all the locusts die because of the Monsanto, and the chemical concentration of their bodies soaks into and destroys your fertile soil. yeah, thats what humans are doing to the earth. we consume and destroy with little regard for the future.
exterminatus
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (North)142 Posts
January 24 2013 18:18 GMT
#159
Hopefully nature finds a way and kills off couple of billion "cancer cells".
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
January 24 2013 18:20 GMT
#160
On January 25 2013 03:10 fluidin wrote:
man, we sure like to talk about how much of a big shot we are on earth, eh?

i wonder what more advanced species would think of us

i thought of this clip when i read ur post

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Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
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