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Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-28 21:48:36
August 28 2017 21:47 GMT
#3181
Wasn't on BBC when I checked this 5 mins ago.

Only just got breaking from assoc press

EDIT: also looks like I was pretty majorly ninjad by Grettin
“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 28 2017 21:57 GMT
#3182
It will be interesting to ponder if there are already Japanese subs already in the splashdown area in hopes of finding and retrieving the debris.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
August 28 2017 22:05 GMT
#3183
I read somewhere recently that NK missiles were thought to follow a supply chain that originated in Ukraine.

Wreckage would certain help in confirming.
“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15728 Posts
August 28 2017 22:06 GMT
#3184
Friend of mine in Japan got woken up from a North Korean missile launch alarm.

Honestly, I think I'd be job searching in the US that same day. Big ole "fuck that" to the whole "cultural blah blah" experience.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15728 Posts
August 28 2017 22:56 GMT
#3185
Sorry for the double post, but in what world is this not an act of war?
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 28 2017 23:05 GMT
#3186
Because smarter and cooler heads are in South Korea and Japan at the moment also not the first time it's happened I don't think.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
August 28 2017 23:23 GMT
#3187
On August 29 2017 07:56 Mohdoo wrote:
Sorry for the double post, but in what world is this not an act of war?

In the world where people don't jump at every casus belli they can find, just because they will savescum out if it doesn't go so great.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
August 28 2017 23:30 GMT
#3188
my friend told me its happened like once in the last couple decades.
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15728 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-29 00:58:17
August 29 2017 00:58 GMT
#3189
On August 29 2017 08:05 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Because smarter and cooler heads are in South Korea and Japan at the moment also not the first time it's happened I don't think.



On August 29 2017 08:23 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2017 07:56 Mohdoo wrote:
Sorry for the double post, but in what world is this not an act of war?

In the world where people don't jump at every casus belli they can find, just because they will savescum out if it doesn't go so great.


If North Korea shot a missile straight into a Japanese city, wouldn't this still be the case?
ghostmaster93
Profile Joined July 2017
155 Posts
August 29 2017 01:53 GMT
#3190
Interesting to see many people here care about NK. Do you guys care about life at NK in general?
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15728 Posts
August 29 2017 01:54 GMT
#3191
On August 29 2017 10:53 ghostmaster93 wrote:
Interesting to see many people here care about NK. Do you guys care about life at NK in general?

rofl is this some shitty high school philosophy graduate way of saying people don't care about North Koreans, just what their government might do to people we care about?
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43468 Posts
August 29 2017 04:55 GMT
#3192
On August 29 2017 07:56 Mohdoo wrote:
Sorry for the double post, but in what world is this not an act of war?

The world in which peace is preferable to war.
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Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-29 05:36:15
August 29 2017 05:30 GMT
#3193
The question that's relevant is whether China considers it enough of an act of war to stand back.

The next is whether it's enough of a threat to be worth the cost of responding, even if China accedes.

The answer to both is probably no.
ghostmaster93
Profile Joined July 2017
155 Posts
August 29 2017 08:43 GMT
#3194
On August 29 2017 10:54 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2017 10:53 ghostmaster93 wrote:
Interesting to see many people here care about NK. Do you guys care about life at NK in general?

rofl is this some shitty high school philosophy graduate way of saying people don't care about North Koreans, just what their government might do to people we care about?


You misunderstood my point. "Here" is to imply teamliquid. There are facebook /many forums online and even reddit/subreddit, and to me teamliquid is a forum focus on gaming most . For example, if I want to read about NBA stuff, I rather go to reddit NBA or reddit Boston Celtics to know what people think, rather than go to teamliquid's NBA topic.

About my question, I am just surprise because i found out there is a topic relating to NK. Most of the news relating to North Korea is relating to missle launching/ nuclear bomb v.v... Other than that, NK is a total myth for the world. It happened to most of the people and myself. Just recently I discover a fanpage who post pictures and videos relating to NK inside life, and thanks to that I know more about it current society right now. So i m willing to establish a topic if there are enough care and willing to discuss, rather than totally focus on current events report by main stream Western media.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8787 Posts
August 29 2017 10:26 GMT
#3195
On August 29 2017 17:43 ghostmaster93 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2017 10:54 Mohdoo wrote:
On August 29 2017 10:53 ghostmaster93 wrote:
Interesting to see many people here care about NK. Do you guys care about life at NK in general?

rofl is this some shitty high school philosophy graduate way of saying people don't care about North Koreans, just what their government might do to people we care about?


You misunderstood my point. "Here" is to imply teamliquid. There are facebook /many forums online and even reddit/subreddit, and to me teamliquid is a forum focus on gaming most . For example, if I want to read about NBA stuff, I rather go to reddit NBA or reddit Boston Celtics to know what people think, rather than go to teamliquid's NBA topic.

About my question, I am just surprise because i found out there is a topic relating to NK. Most of the news relating to North Korea is relating to missle launching/ nuclear bomb v.v... Other than that, NK is a total myth for the world. It happened to most of the people and myself. Just recently I discover a fanpage who post pictures and videos relating to NK inside life, and thanks to that I know more about it current society right now. So i m willing to establish a topic if there are enough care and willing to discuss, rather than totally focus on current events report by main stream Western media.

he understood perfectly what you were asking, but his response was unnecessarily hostile.
to answer your question i would say no, most people cannot say with complete honesty that they care about north korea's general livelihood, much like most people dont care about africa.
they are aware of it and would maybe express sympathy, or even make the occasional donation but thats about the extent of their interest. to be fair, for the majority of people thats probably the most they can do to help.
but to clear things up for you, most interest about north korea i would say comes from the nuclear missile programs, ongoing hostility and possibility of war. without these things north korea would just be another africa; a country people know needs help and a shit ton of work to make properly livable, but dont really do much about it.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-29 13:27:39
August 29 2017 13:27 GMT
#3196
If you are expressing suprise that there is an active thread dedicated to North Korea, you have to remember that Team Liquid which has its roots in starcraft broodwar, which means that it would have a bigger focus on South Korean culture and issues than would otherwise be expected in a western gaming forum. Plus this is the general forum part, where there are loads of random political threads and North Korea has been a hot global issue for a few years now.
ghostmaster93
Profile Joined July 2017
155 Posts
August 29 2017 15:34 GMT
#3197
On August 29 2017 19:26 evilfatsh1t wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2017 17:43 ghostmaster93 wrote:
On August 29 2017 10:54 Mohdoo wrote:
On August 29 2017 10:53 ghostmaster93 wrote:
Interesting to see many people here care about NK. Do you guys care about life at NK in general?

rofl is this some shitty high school philosophy graduate way of saying people don't care about North Koreans, just what their government might do to people we care about?


You misunderstood my point. "Here" is to imply teamliquid. There are facebook /many forums online and even reddit/subreddit, and to me teamliquid is a forum focus on gaming most . For example, if I want to read about NBA stuff, I rather go to reddit NBA or reddit Boston Celtics to know what people think, rather than go to teamliquid's NBA topic.

About my question, I am just surprise because i found out there is a topic relating to NK. Most of the news relating to North Korea is relating to missle launching/ nuclear bomb v.v... Other than that, NK is a total myth for the world. It happened to most of the people and myself. Just recently I discover a fanpage who post pictures and videos relating to NK inside life, and thanks to that I know more about it current society right now. So i m willing to establish a topic if there are enough care and willing to discuss, rather than totally focus on current events report by main stream Western media.

he understood perfectly what you were asking, but his response was unnecessarily hostile.
to answer your question i would say no, most people cannot say with complete honesty that they care about north korea's general livelihood, much like most people dont care about africa.
they are aware of it and would maybe express sympathy, or even make the occasional donation but thats about the extent of their interest. to be fair, for the majority of people thats probably the most they can do to help.
but to clear things up for you, most interest about north korea i would say comes from the nuclear missile programs, ongoing hostility and possibility of war. without these things north korea would just be another africa; a country people know needs help and a shit ton of work to make properly livable, but dont really do much about it.


Thanks for your answer. In my opinion, your interest comes directly from the media's impact, because most of the time media focus on the the topics you mentioned, rather than other NK's information.

And based on other source which I have read and reviewed, in my opinion, the living standard in NK is pretty medium, not so bad as people often imagine.
ghostmaster93
Profile Joined July 2017
155 Posts
August 29 2017 15:52 GMT
#3198
On August 29 2017 22:27 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
If you are expressing suprise that there is an active thread dedicated to North Korea, you have to remember that Team Liquid which has its roots in starcraft broodwar, which means that it would have a bigger focus on South Korean culture and issues than would otherwise be expected in a western gaming forum. Plus this is the general forum part, where there are loads of random political threads and North Korea has been a hot global issue for a few years now.


Actually when I search key word "korean" or "south korea", most of the topics are relating to gaming. There are two big topics relating to non - gaming issues in Korea (the topic about K-pop and this topic), and that's quite small compare to the thread about gaming here. So you cannot say that Team Liquid has bigger focus on SK culture.

Ok, come back to the topic. If I recall correctly, Japan has a surface-to-air interceptor known as the Patriot Advanced Capability 3 (PAC-3) with the US. Why don't Japan just use that?
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
August 29 2017 15:55 GMT
#3199
On August 30 2017 00:52 ghostmaster93 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2017 22:27 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
If you are expressing suprise that there is an active thread dedicated to North Korea, you have to remember that Team Liquid which has its roots in starcraft broodwar, which means that it would have a bigger focus on South Korean culture and issues than would otherwise be expected in a western gaming forum. Plus this is the general forum part, where there are loads of random political threads and North Korea has been a hot global issue for a few years now.


Actually when I search key word "korean" or "south korea", most of the topics are relating to gaming. There are two big topics relating to non - gaming issues in Korea (the topic about K-pop and this topic), and that's quite small compare to the thread about gaming here. So you cannot say that Team Liquid has bigger focus on SK culture.

Ok, come back to the topic. If I recall correctly, Japan has a surface-to-air interceptor known as the Patriot Advanced Capability 3 (PAC-3) with the US. Why don't Japan just use that?


There could be many reasons. Those missile shields are notoriously unreliable. Why risk missing the NK missile and causing public panic when it was a test rocket with no payload?
“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
August 29 2017 15:59 GMT
#3200
Some guy being woken up by the sirens at 6am in the morning because he was close by. In case anyone wants to see what the emergency notifications etc would be like. Just 3 minutes and english:

<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
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