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Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
October 05 2014 07:28 GMT
#2461
Why do people even talk about North Korea? It's not like they pose a threat to anyone but their own starved citizens and a couple abducted journalists. It is just a pariah state.
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
October 05 2014 09:30 GMT
#2462
On October 05 2014 16:28 Doodsmack wrote:
Why do people even talk about North Korea? It's not like they pose a threat to anyone but their own starved citizens and a couple abducted journalists. It is just a pariah state.

Human rights are not worth talking about? To name just one reason.
Crushinator
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands2138 Posts
October 05 2014 10:18 GMT
#2463
On October 05 2014 16:28 Doodsmack wrote:
Why do people even talk about North Korea? It's not like they pose a threat to anyone but their own starved citizens and a couple abducted journalists. It is just a pariah state.


How could you possibly think that is a good point?
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
October 05 2014 11:12 GMT
#2464
On October 05 2014 16:28 Doodsmack wrote:
Why do people even talk about North Korea? It's not like they pose a threat to anyone but their own starved citizens and a couple abducted journalists. It is just a pariah state.


They have nuclear weapons and Seoul is 35 miles from artillery in the DMZ. They pose just the same threat as all the other so called 'rogue states' have in their respective regions.

Also this:

On October 05 2014 18:30 Mafe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 16:28 Doodsmack wrote:
Why do people even talk about North Korea? It's not like they pose a threat to anyone but their own starved citizens and a couple abducted journalists. It is just a pariah state.

Human rights are not worth talking about? To name just one reason.

“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
Millitron
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2611 Posts
October 05 2014 16:17 GMT
#2465
On October 05 2014 20:12 Deleuze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 16:28 Doodsmack wrote:
Why do people even talk about North Korea? It's not like they pose a threat to anyone but their own starved citizens and a couple abducted journalists. It is just a pariah state.


They have nuclear weapons and Seoul is 35 miles from artillery in the DMZ. They pose just the same threat as all the other so called 'rogue states' have in their respective regions.

Also this:

Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 18:30 Mafe wrote:
On October 05 2014 16:28 Doodsmack wrote:
Why do people even talk about North Korea? It's not like they pose a threat to anyone but their own starved citizens and a couple abducted journalists. It is just a pariah state.

Human rights are not worth talking about? To name just one reason.


Well, they claim they have nuclear weapons. Last I heard there wasn't much evidence they had working ones.
Who called in the fleet?
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
October 05 2014 16:44 GMT
#2466
It's just a situation that is basically hopeless. No one can get in from the outside and I guess China can influence them from the outside but only to a limited extent probably.
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
October 05 2014 17:11 GMT
#2467
On October 05 2014 16:28 Doodsmack wrote:
Why do people even talk about North Korea? It's not like they pose a threat to anyone but their own starved citizens and a couple abducted journalists. It is just a pariah state.

we talk about them much more than a random african country because north korea keeps threatening the worlds 3rd largest economy and the worlds 16th largest economy. Remember how much Sep 11th affected the US economy? Now imagine what happens on the way out, North Korea blasts Seoul and Tokyo.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
October 05 2014 17:20 GMT
#2468
On October 06 2014 02:11 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 16:28 Doodsmack wrote:
Why do people even talk about North Korea? It's not like they pose a threat to anyone but their own starved citizens and a couple abducted journalists. It is just a pariah state.

we talk about them much more than a random african country because north korea keeps threatening the worlds 3rd largest economy and the worlds 16th largest economy. Remember how much Sep 11th affected the US economy? Now imagine what happens on the way out, North Korea blasts Seoul and Tokyo.


It's extremely unlikely.
radscorpion9
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada2252 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-05 18:02:10
October 05 2014 18:01 GMT
#2469
Wouldn't be too surprising if a coup really did happen. Maybe they're tired of empty threats of nuclear annihilation and war rhetoric, and finally want to build up their country? Besides that I heard that China was just getting tired of dealing with NK, and I'm pretty sure they're their only ally (don't remember the news source but China was pressuring NK to start negotiations I think).

Nice to hear something good happening overseas; besides ebola, middle east war and civil wars, global warming...
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
October 05 2014 18:03 GMT
#2470
Russia is also on good/neutral terms with NK.
tadL
Profile Joined September 2010
Croatia679 Posts
October 05 2014 18:52 GMT
#2471
Germany too not just as official.
Hazzyboy
Profile Joined January 2012
Estonia555 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-05 21:06:47
October 05 2014 21:02 GMT
#2472
On October 06 2014 03:03 Conti wrote:
Russia is also on good/neutral terms with NK.

And? Who did NK invade in last decade?! Hypocrisy knows no bounds and people never change or learn.
All those countries that Western World told had no 'rights or minimum life standards for citizens' know have nothing but ruins - no water, electricity or food under democracy is better than having them under dictatorship? Ok lets invade NK and bring em 'life standard of live now like there is no tomorrow'.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43530 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-05 21:36:17
October 05 2014 21:35 GMT
#2473
On October 06 2014 06:02 Hazzyboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 03:03 Conti wrote:
Russia is also on good/neutral terms with NK.

And? Who did NK invade in last decade?! Hypocrisy knows no bounds and people never change or learn.
All those countries that Western World told had no 'rights or minimum life standards for citizens' know have nothing but ruins - no water, electricity or food under democracy is better than having them under dictatorship? Ok lets invade NK and bring em 'life standard of live now like there is no tomorrow'.

NK routinely attacks South Korea and constantly engages in hostile rhetoric against South Korea, Japan and the United States which would, if any other nation did it, start a war. The only reason North Korea is allowed to get away with literally shelling the civilian population of its neighbour is because it does so while holding a knife to the throat of the South Korean capital. Make no mistake, North Korea is every bit as bad as people say it is. It is only prevented from continuing the Korean War by the overwhelming strength of China and the United States, denying their warlike nature is like claiming gravity doesn't exist because a rock doesn't fall through the mountain beneath it.
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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-06 05:29:58
October 06 2014 05:29 GMT
#2474
On October 06 2014 06:02 Hazzyboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 03:03 Conti wrote:
Russia is also on good/neutral terms with NK.

And? Who did NK invade in last decade?! Hypocrisy knows no bounds and people never change or learn.
All those countries that Western World told had no 'rights or minimum life standards for citizens' know have nothing but ruins - no water, electricity or food under democracy is better than having them under dictatorship? Ok lets invade NK and bring em 'life standard of live now like there is no tomorrow'.

Your level of ignorance is astounding.

On October 06 2014 06:35 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2014 06:02 Hazzyboy wrote:
On October 06 2014 03:03 Conti wrote:
Russia is also on good/neutral terms with NK.

And? Who did NK invade in last decade?! Hypocrisy knows no bounds and people never change or learn.
All those countries that Western World told had no 'rights or minimum life standards for citizens' know have nothing but ruins - no water, electricity or food under democracy is better than having them under dictatorship? Ok lets invade NK and bring em 'life standard of live now like there is no tomorrow'.

Denying their warlike nature is like claiming gravity doesn't exist because a rock doesn't fall through the mountain beneath it.

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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
October 06 2014 05:56 GMT
#2475
50 years ago if North Korea was doing what it does now nobody would blink an eye if they were attacked, crushed and their way of life destroyed. Hell, if it wasn't for China's intervention in the first Korean War that is exactly what would have happened. Our world is run by cowards, to concerned with what someone else will do if they do something. No leaders have balls anymore. Well, no leaders except Putin and whoever is pulling the strings in NK.
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
October 06 2014 18:22 GMT
#2476
On October 06 2014 14:56 Orcasgt24 wrote:
50 years ago if North Korea was doing what it does now nobody would blink an eye if they were attacked, crushed and their way of life destroyed. Hell, if it wasn't for China's intervention in the first Korean War that is exactly what would have happened. Our world is run by cowards, to concerned with what someone else will do if they do something. No leaders have balls anymore. Well, no leaders except Putin and whoever is pulling the strings in NK.


Well the US had a leader with balls. Didn't work out great for their citizens (unless they happened to be private security contractors).
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-06 18:26:39
October 06 2014 18:24 GMT
#2477
I'm sorry, this is slightly off topic, but I can't help asking. This is the same thread that was originally named "NK says / does alarming things".

The title has now changed. Is this because NK itself has changed? What recent events have made the thread title change its name? Or is it just that NK is no longer considered a threat or something? That doesn't seem to be the case, considering Kwark's last post?
maru lover forever
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
October 06 2014 19:12 GMT
#2478
Basically, Kim Jong Un hasn't made a public appearance in a few weeks now, and the last public appearance he's made he was limping a bit, making people speculate about his health. Also, NK has started to talk to South Korea again, fueling speculations that Kim Jong Un might have been overthrown and replaced by a more peaceful group. Or something. But with anything NK, nobody knows anything specific.
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
October 06 2014 19:25 GMT
#2479
I think its more to do with the news being posted here becoming increasingly pedestrian.
“An image of thought called philosophy has been formed historically and it effectively stops people from thinking.” ― Gilles Deleuze, Dialogues II
Crushinator
Profile Joined August 2011
Netherlands2138 Posts
October 06 2014 19:48 GMT
#2480
On October 07 2014 04:25 Deleuze wrote:
I think its more to do with the news being posted here becoming increasingly pedestrian.


Not really. The change of tone is quite remarkable. They said they might suspend nuclear program, no nuclear tests, first time high official is travelling south, they want to have talks etc etc. Kim's month long absence. The rumours about factional intrigue. None of that is really pedestrian, but surprising and non-hostile.
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