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Time stamped VODs can be found at the following links:
http://www.reddit.com/r/speedrun/comments/165o4k/agdq_vods_with_timings_english_updated_frequently/
http://www.reddit.com/r/speedrun/comments/16gcrh/agdq_vods_english_and_french_part_2_thursday/
SlowBullets
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States839 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-11 21:13:10
January 11 2013 21:12 GMT
#2621
Shit, you need to chill.

It's a nonstop stream of marahatohing games for a full week. There will be games that you probably don't like....
Plus the whole thing is for a good cause...to say because they speedrun & shouldn't deserve to have kids...


wtf? Nice logic.
1:1 go sc2 LAN? Oh wait...
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28093 Posts
January 11 2013 21:12 GMT
#2622
On January 12 2013 06:09 Velr wrote:
My problem is.

i LOVE watching speedruns. I love watching people go thru games quickliy i found hard... But if you do it in an FF or similar game... There is just no "magic" to it. I feel it's insulting to other speedrunners to have games like that in the same category.. They require nearly 0 skill/accuracy/whatever.... I just think games like FF9 or SC2 Brutal don't belong into such an event.

I don't even understand the appeal of this ff9 run... because the appeal of ff was allway mainly the story... which is skipped.

The appeal for most of us is probably some sort of nostalgia. Seeing our favourite cities, dungeons, and hearing our favourite music,etc. The runners are pretty interesting as well imo, which makes it fun to watch.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
January 11 2013 21:13 GMT
#2623
On January 12 2013 06:09 Velr wrote:
My problem is.

i LOVE watching speedruns. I love watching people go thru games quickliy i found hard... But if you do it in an FF or similar game... There is just no "magic" to it. I feel it's insulting to other speedrunners to have games like that in the same category.. They require nearly 0 skill/accuracy/whatever.... I just think games like FF9 or SC2 Brutal don't belong into such an event.

I don't even understand the appeal of this ff9 run... because the appeal of ff was allway mainly the story... which is skipped.

Yeah, i agree with you. Well, the appeal is to see how fast they are and to listen to the guys i guess. Also to see some tricks.

Well, you don't need to watch it. Not sure if i'll like the Zelda runs either, i guess it's a thing of taste. SC2 singleplayer was also more of a game for the story and for the challenge at the first 1-2 playthroughs, so it's no wonder some might find it boring.
blagoonga123
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2068 Posts
January 11 2013 21:14 GMT
#2624
On January 12 2013 06:12 Dubzex wrote:
What is the point of stutter stepping? Does it not count each stutter step as a regular step so the chance of getting an encounter is much lower or something?

yeah each step you take increases the chance of random battle, so moving without increasing your step count is optimal
FOOL! Pain is my friend! Now let me introduce you to it!
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
January 11 2013 21:14 GMT
#2625
On January 12 2013 06:09 Velr wrote:
My problem is.

i LOVE watching speedruns. I love watching people go thru games quickliy i found hard... But if you do it in an FF or similar game... There is just no "magic" to it. I feel it's insulting to other speedrunners to have games like that in the same category.. They require nearly 0 skill/accuracy/whatever.... I just think games like FF9 or SC2 Brutal don't belong into such an event.

I don't even understand the appeal of this ff9 run... because the appeal of ff was allway mainly the story... which is skipped.

Seriously dude. Just stop watching. These runs don't appeal to me either so I just watched the Contra and Castlevania runs that I missed. Why do you feel the need to complain about it? Just don't watch.

Just because you "LOVE watching speedruns" doesn't entitle you to complain about a great event picking games you don't like.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28093 Posts
January 11 2013 21:14 GMT
#2626
On January 12 2013 06:12 Dubzex wrote:
What is the point of stutter stepping? Does it not count each stutter step as a regular step so the chance of getting an encounter is much lower or something?

Something like that, but only in the World Map.
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Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
January 11 2013 21:14 GMT
#2627
On January 12 2013 06:09 Velr wrote:
My problem is.

i LOVE watching speedruns. I love watching people go thru games quickliy i found hard... But if you do it in an FF or similar game... There is just no "magic" to it. I feel it's insulting to other speedrunners to have games like that in the same category.. They require nearly 0 skill/accuracy/whatever.... I just think games like FF9 or SC2 Brutal don't belong into such an event.

I don't even understand the appeal of this ff9 run... because the appeal of ff was allway mainly the story... which is skipped.


Well you like speedruns that require, lets call it mechanical skill. Like hitting a pixel in a jump or w/e. Some people like watching speedruns that just abuse clitches like there is no tomorrow. Some people like to optimize every single step that saves a few seconds in a 10 hour game (also remembering them).

I like the speedruns with "mechanical skills" the most, too. Just don't watch the rest.
Rayeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States883 Posts
January 11 2013 21:14 GMT
#2628
On January 12 2013 06:09 Velr wrote:
My problem is.

i LOVE watching speedruns. I love watching people go thru games quickliy i found hard... But if you do it in an FF or similar game... There is just no "magic" to it. I feel it's insulting to other speedrunners to have games like that in the same category.. They require nearly 0 skill/accuracy/whatever.... I just think games like FF9 or SC2 Brutal don't belong into such an event.

I don't even understand the appeal of this ff9 run... because the appeal of ff was allway mainly the story... which is skipped.


Nevermind the stutter stepping tricks they have to do to minimize encounters, or the optimizations they have to do to take the fastest possible routes through dungeons or learn certain skills, etc. All of that isn't interesting to you, I guess. Fine. There are plenty of other streams and games coming up. All the Zelda stuff coming up might be more of your liking then?
The Innocent shall suffer... big time.
deepfield1
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States373 Posts
January 11 2013 21:15 GMT
#2629
Not a real big fan of the FF series.. still have stream on and muted though.

Hype for the Zelda block!
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
January 11 2013 21:16 GMT
#2630
People have done Final Fantasy only marathons for thousands of viewers and raised thousands of dollars. I'm not a fan of RPGs, but some people are. This is just telling people they shouldn't like what they like and is no diferent from any other game vs game elitism.
Tribute
Profile Joined September 2010
United States146 Posts
January 11 2013 21:16 GMT
#2631
Just wanted to give a shoutout to BigRuss. You guys should donate for that filename. Do it for Garrison, Dram, Golden, and the others in the #smw crew.
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
January 11 2013 21:17 GMT
#2632
On January 12 2013 06:15 deepfield1 wrote:
Not a real big fan of the FF series.. still have stream on and muted though.

Hype for the Zelda block!


Haha, I just watch it for the commentary.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28093 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-11 21:18:57
January 11 2013 21:17 GMT
#2633
Why are people coming into the thread to say they aren't enjoying this. Doesn't really make sense, lol. I didn't find the urge to suddenly jump into this thread during the games I disliked, and go "hey guys this game sucks, bye".

edit: Mainly because it is a charity event for cancer, and negativity in the thread seems a bit out of place.
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Sachem
Profile Joined May 2011
United States116 Posts
January 11 2013 21:20 GMT
#2634
As someone who speedruns FF-like games, I can understand why many people wouldn't think of them as "skilled".

A ton of the magic and interest is in optimization that you never really see on screen. Watching routes evolve through such a immensely complex game is fascinating, more so if you understand the kind of planning that goes into that. It's definitely not the same sort of exciting that watching a frame perfect jump or whatever is.

People enjoy games in different ways, let them do it however they want. Don't like it? Don't Watch =p
Leyra
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1222 Posts
January 11 2013 21:22 GMT
#2635
There may not be the "mechanical skill" in this game, but if you can't appreciate the time/effort and thought that goes into optimizing a run like this, you're pretty dense. Oh wait, I'm supposed to say... "Then you shouldn't have children!!111" right?

I've enjoyed this run because the personalities are interesting, it's a nostalgic game, and I appreciate how fine-tuned this really is. I probably enjoyed watching the high-skill games such as Yoshi's island more, but this is still a lot of fun for me, not to mention it's a great cause.
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
January 11 2013 21:26 GMT
#2636
Bahamut's sneeze can kill the world.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
January 11 2013 21:26 GMT
#2637
On January 12 2013 06:00 Velr wrote:
This is the dumbest thing ive ever seen


If you decide to "speedrun" " " " " any final fantasy you should just not be allowed to have kids...There can come nothing good out of your genes..

A Final Fantasy speedrun is only 3 things:
LUCK BASED, BORING, TEDIOUS.

I loved the castlevanias, i loved probotector or how it is called before it (the shooting game),Goldeneye awesome, tons of other games i don't know were cool... But this? It's like something is shitting a giant big tard on this whole event.......


Btw: I also disliked SC2 because it also requires no skill, just memory in 90% of the missions..... Seriously... AAAGH.. I want to like this marathon and then they come up with such crap.

I mean.. Let's have a "win solitaire 100 times in a row" run! It's at least as exciting as sc2 or ff9... I even kinda like ff9 (don't love it) but this is just a friggin waste of time.


Btw: I donated... i would just take it back and donate directly if i would have known this crap would take THAT long...

User was warned for this post


Why are you so angry man? They have to fill 7 straight days with speed-runs, chances are they're going to do a couple of bad games or games that don't appeal to everyone in the speed-run format. If you don't like it, and you obviously don't, just turn the stream off and come back when they're playing a game you're excited to see.

I'm not really interested by the FF9 speedrun either, but I wouldn't say it's "shitting a giant turd" on the whole event. Doesn't that seem excessive to you? Also to assert that the players themselves are genetically defective is an...interesting...response to say the least.
itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9159 Posts
January 11 2013 21:29 GMT
#2638
On January 12 2013 06:12 Dubzex wrote:
What is the point of stutter stepping? Does it not count each stutter step as a regular step so the chance of getting an encounter is much lower or something?


Basically, yes. They explained it earlier in the run better than I could ever do.
Photographer"nosotros estamos backamos" - setsuko
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28093 Posts
January 11 2013 21:31 GMT
#2639
What exactly does OoT 100% mean? Does it mean you have to do everything there is possible in the game? Also, what's any%?
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Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
January 11 2013 21:33 GMT
#2640
I lost faith in TL mods when I saw he got away with a warning.
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