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Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-20 08:23:01
December 20 2012 08:14 GMT
#281
I must echo the "terrible execution" part. Where's civilization?? Or some of the classics like Galcon? Or the Portal series? I know they were nominated in the other thread, I nominated them..

Edit: Oh, I missed that each series gets a poll and then one of them is inserted into the bracket... Hmm, unconventional but fair. Props to you for that one. (But where's my Galcon and Angband, damn you! )

But ok, you did a shit-ton of work, so it's fine.

On the other hand, this is a popularity contest, so I don't mind people voting in a biased manner. It will work out nicely anyway.

And there's still very exciting stuff already.

Dwarf Fortress v Black and White. DF needs to win...
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
December 20 2012 08:14 GMT
#282
On December 20 2012 17:12 BluePanther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 17:00 dcemuser wrote:
On December 20 2012 16:24 BluePanther wrote:
ROFL wolfenstein 3D loses and Wolfenstein Irrelevant is winning.

sad.

the results really show the age of a lot of voters. most aren't old enough to know how revolutionary some games were.


Depends on each voter's criteria. Are they voting how well they stand up today, how revolutionary they are, or how much fun they had playing them?



wolfenstein 3d beats out battlefield 2 in each of those categories, imo. the only logical reason battlefield 2 could get a vote is based on one fact only: they person voting doesn't know anything about wolfenstein 3D. I remember playing this game when it came out, and it was SOOOO much better than anything that was out there (looking back on it, I was 7 and I do not understand why my adult neighbor gave it to me and why my parents let me play that...). Yet for some reason Doom is the only one that gets remembered today (which was merely a slight upgraded and reskinned).


I'm pretty sure this is age driving this.


Could partially be popularity driving this too?

I remember playing Doom, Doom 2, and Quake 2 but I did not play Wolfenstein 3D until recently.
BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-20 08:18:29
December 20 2012 08:16 GMT
#283
On December 20 2012 17:14 dcemuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 17:12 BluePanther wrote:
On December 20 2012 17:00 dcemuser wrote:
On December 20 2012 16:24 BluePanther wrote:
ROFL wolfenstein 3D loses and Wolfenstein Irrelevant is winning.

sad.

the results really show the age of a lot of voters. most aren't old enough to know how revolutionary some games were.


Depends on each voter's criteria. Are they voting how well they stand up today, how revolutionary they are, or how much fun they had playing them?



wolfenstein 3d beats out battlefield 2 in each of those categories, imo. the only logical reason battlefield 2 could get a vote is based on one fact only: they person voting doesn't know anything about wolfenstein 3D. I remember playing this game when it came out, and it was SOOOO much better than anything that was out there (looking back on it, I was 7 and I do not understand why my adult neighbor gave it to me and why my parents let me play that...). Yet for some reason Doom is the only one that gets remembered today (which was merely a slight upgraded and reskinned).


I'm pretty sure this is age driving this.


Could partially be popularity driving this too?

I remember playing Doom, Doom 2, and Quake 2 but I did not play Wolfenstein 3D until recently.


W3D was original, and involved shooting zombie nazi's.

Doom was a reskinned W3D.




Same thing results in Commander Keen losing
Beamer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States242 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-20 08:29:15
December 20 2012 08:18 GMT
#284
On December 20 2012 17:14 Ghanburighan wrote:
I must echo the "terrible execution" part. Where's civilization?? Or some of the classics like Galcon? Or the Portal series? I know they were nominated in the other thread, I nominated them..

But ok, you did a shit-ton of work, so it's fine.

On the other hand, this is a popularity contest, so I don't mind people voting in a biased manner. It will work out nicely anyway.

And there's still very exciting stuff already.

Dwarf Fortress v Black and White. DF needs to win...

Civilization IV is in the Turn-Based Strategy Bracket and Portal 2 is in the Platformers Bracket.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
December 20 2012 08:24 GMT
#285
On December 20 2012 17:18 beamer159 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 17:14 Ghanburighan wrote:
I must echo the "terrible execution" part. Where's civilization?? Or some of the classics like Galcon? Or the Portal series? I know they were nominated in the other thread, I nominated them..

But ok, you did a shit-ton of work, so it's fine.

On the other hand, this is a popularity contest, so I don't mind people voting in a biased manner. It will work out nicely anyway.

And there's still very exciting stuff already.

Dwarf Fortress v Black and White. DF needs to win...

Civilization IV is in the Turn-Based Strategy Bracket and Portal 2 is in the Platformers Bracket.


You're right! Sorry. I didn't realize Civ 2, that I nominated, lost to Civ 4. Same for Portal. Edited my previous post.

You still missed two of my favourite games that no-one else has heard about
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Beamer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States242 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-20 08:35:47
December 20 2012 08:33 GMT
#286
On December 20 2012 17:24 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 17:18 beamer159 wrote:
On December 20 2012 17:14 Ghanburighan wrote:
I must echo the "terrible execution" part. Where's civilization?? Or some of the classics like Galcon? Or the Portal series? I know they were nominated in the other thread, I nominated them..

But ok, you did a shit-ton of work, so it's fine.

On the other hand, this is a popularity contest, so I don't mind people voting in a biased manner. It will work out nicely anyway.

And there's still very exciting stuff already.

Dwarf Fortress v Black and White. DF needs to win...

Civilization IV is in the Turn-Based Strategy Bracket and Portal 2 is in the Platformers Bracket.


You're right! Sorry. I didn't realize Civ 2, that I nominated, lost to Civ 4. Same for Portal. Edited my previous post.

You still missed two of my favourite games that no-one else has heard about

Angband is in the Role-Playing Games Bracket. However, I did not include Galcon, unfortunately. I think the reason is I've never heard of the game, and looking up "Galaxy Conquest" on Wikipedia and Google yielded no results. Also, your post was on page 13 (!!!) and by that time, I was kind of in a "screw that game" state of mind.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-20 08:41:16
December 20 2012 08:37 GMT
#287
On December 20 2012 17:33 beamer159 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 17:24 Ghanburighan wrote:
On December 20 2012 17:18 beamer159 wrote:
On December 20 2012 17:14 Ghanburighan wrote:
I must echo the "terrible execution" part. Where's civilization?? Or some of the classics like Galcon? Or the Portal series? I know they were nominated in the other thread, I nominated them..

But ok, you did a shit-ton of work, so it's fine.

On the other hand, this is a popularity contest, so I don't mind people voting in a biased manner. It will work out nicely anyway.

And there's still very exciting stuff already.

Dwarf Fortress v Black and White. DF needs to win...

Civilization IV is in the Turn-Based Strategy Bracket and Portal 2 is in the Platformers Bracket.


You're right! Sorry. I didn't realize Civ 2, that I nominated, lost to Civ 4. Same for Portal. Edited my previous post.

You still missed two of my favourite games that no-one else has heard about

Angband is in the Role-Playing Games Bracket. However, I did not include Galcon, unfortunately. I think the reason is I've never heard of the game, and looking up "Galaxy Conquest" on Wikipedia yielded no results. Also, your post was on page 13 (!!!) and by that time, I was kind of in a "screw that game" state of mind.


I can understand the frustration ^^

I'm still confused as to when one votes for what, though. Looking at the brackets, they look much better than the actual polls (that I was going by). So, even though you have the brackets, you could edit the OP to emphasize that people ought to be looking at those instead of the polls.

As for Galcon: http://www.galcon.com/classic/history.html ^^ Try the 87 version with a few friends, it's glorious back-stabbing.

P.S. Songs will be written about Tetris v Pac-Man.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Beamer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States242 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-20 08:41:47
December 20 2012 08:41 GMT
#288
That's understandable. The first round was going to be confusing since not all games would be present in the polling. I think the next round of voting will go much smoother, since all games not yet eliminated will be available for voting.
ScoutWBF
Profile Joined April 2005
Germany641 Posts
December 20 2012 08:43 GMT
#289
No King of Fighters 2002UM or XIII? Also no Street Fighter EX2+? I am disappoint
Also no Z or Machines for RTS!!!
Beamer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States242 Posts
December 20 2012 18:21 GMT
#290
UPDATE - 12/20/12: Let the second round of voting begin! With this round, all games will have been in a poll at least once. So let your voice be heard, your vote count, and may your favorite game continue on!
BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
December 20 2012 18:35 GMT
#291
Done. Went through and voted on the ones I felt informed enough about to pick a winner


I predict EVE to be the darkhorse here.
WaesumNinja
Profile Joined February 2012
210 Posts
December 20 2012 18:44 GMT
#292
On December 20 2012 17:16 BluePanther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 17:14 dcemuser wrote:
On December 20 2012 17:12 BluePanther wrote:
On December 20 2012 17:00 dcemuser wrote:
On December 20 2012 16:24 BluePanther wrote:
ROFL wolfenstein 3D loses and Wolfenstein Irrelevant is winning.

sad.

the results really show the age of a lot of voters. most aren't old enough to know how revolutionary some games were.


Depends on each voter's criteria. Are they voting how well they stand up today, how revolutionary they are, or how much fun they had playing them?



wolfenstein 3d beats out battlefield 2 in each of those categories, imo. the only logical reason battlefield 2 could get a vote is based on one fact only: they person voting doesn't know anything about wolfenstein 3D. I remember playing this game when it came out, and it was SOOOO much better than anything that was out there (looking back on it, I was 7 and I do not understand why my adult neighbor gave it to me and why my parents let me play that...). Yet for some reason Doom is the only one that gets remembered today (which was merely a slight upgraded and reskinned).


I'm pretty sure this is age driving this.


Could partially be popularity driving this too?

I remember playing Doom, Doom 2, and Quake 2 but I did not play Wolfenstein 3D until recently.


W3D was original, and involved shooting zombie nazi's.

Doom was a reskinned W3D.


Oo... your memory clearly doesn't serve you well. Doom is much, much more advanced than a simple "reskin". Not to mention that the whole "science meets mythology" with shooting down cyborg demons with plasma rifles is much more original than shooting nazis.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-20 18:48:37
December 20 2012 18:47 GMT
#293
On December 21 2012 03:44 WaesumNinja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 17:16 BluePanther wrote:
On December 20 2012 17:14 dcemuser wrote:
On December 20 2012 17:12 BluePanther wrote:
On December 20 2012 17:00 dcemuser wrote:
On December 20 2012 16:24 BluePanther wrote:
ROFL wolfenstein 3D loses and Wolfenstein Irrelevant is winning.

sad.

the results really show the age of a lot of voters. most aren't old enough to know how revolutionary some games were.


Depends on each voter's criteria. Are they voting how well they stand up today, how revolutionary they are, or how much fun they had playing them?



wolfenstein 3d beats out battlefield 2 in each of those categories, imo. the only logical reason battlefield 2 could get a vote is based on one fact only: they person voting doesn't know anything about wolfenstein 3D. I remember playing this game when it came out, and it was SOOOO much better than anything that was out there (looking back on it, I was 7 and I do not understand why my adult neighbor gave it to me and why my parents let me play that...). Yet for some reason Doom is the only one that gets remembered today (which was merely a slight upgraded and reskinned).


I'm pretty sure this is age driving this.


Could partially be popularity driving this too?

I remember playing Doom, Doom 2, and Quake 2 but I did not play Wolfenstein 3D until recently.


W3D was original, and involved shooting zombie nazi's.

Doom was a reskinned W3D.


Oo... your memory clearly doesn't serve you well. Doom is much, much more advanced than a simple "reskin". Not to mention that the whole "science meets mythology" with shooting down cyborg demons with plasma rifles is much more original than shooting nazis.

Yeah, the graphics engines aren't even the same.........I mean, Wolfenstein 3D will always be the game that got me into games, but Doom was a pretty massive step forward.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
tyr
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France1686 Posts
December 20 2012 18:48 GMT
#294
I wonder who's gonna win between dota2 and league of legents. :D
"I'm always reminded of how manly Jaedong is every time I see him." -Bisu
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 07:12:34
December 20 2012 18:59 GMT
#295
All of you choosing between Angband and DQ, go download Angband right now: http://rephial.org/ You'll love losing more than in Dwarf Fortress. And in years from now, when you stroke your beard right before administering the killing blow to Morgoth, you'll know you've spent your life well.+ Show Spoiler +
You guys all suck Well, not the 2 other guys that voted Angband, but the rest of you, you do.


Some other comments

- Never before in my life have I used the meme "hurr durr" but it's so very appropriate for a faceoff between Mario party and Angry Birds.
- I'm also proud to announce that I'm old. I voted for Duke Nukem over TF2.
- Why not just rename Amnesia "the Day9 screaming game"...

+ Show Spoiler +
Voted against Black and White solely because it beat Dwarf Fortress. Yes, I'm bitter
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
tyr
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France1686 Posts
December 20 2012 23:41 GMT
#296
No love for Operation Flashpoint.
"I'm always reminded of how manly Jaedong is every time I see him." -Bisu
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
December 21 2012 00:44 GMT
#297
There are a ton of matchups that would be my finals that are meeting this round and it makes me sad.
Absentia
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom973 Posts
December 21 2012 01:25 GMT
#298
Resident Evil 4 beating Silent Hill 2 in the horror category is quite saddening. Resident Evil 4 was great but it's difficult for me to imagine someone playing through both games and concluding that RE4 is superior - particularly as a horror game.
Noak
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden84 Posts
December 21 2012 01:38 GMT
#299
can't believe people voted for Golden Eye over Perfect dark, its like did they even play the games. Also really sad to se Atlantis go.
Evangelist
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
1246 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 02:09:36
December 21 2012 02:00 GMT
#300
It should be illegal to vote for Freelancer over Freespace 2.

Not kidding. Freelancer isn't even a wart on pimple on the arse of Freespace 2. None of the games in that category besides Sim City 2000 are.

Some really lovely games there though. Master of Orion 2, Shining Force, UFO Enemy Unknown. Sigh. So many fun games...
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