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Goldeneye beating Perfect Dark is a true injustice.
On December 20 2012 08:34 Nevermind86 wrote: Perfect Dark is a beatiful game, anybody that played it says the same thing, so well made, everything was perfect and the music is so beatiful I even downloaded it my pc, best soundtrack of any video game.
I agree with this. Perfect Dark's soundtrack is AMAZING and probably the best soundtrack of any game (Advance Wars series comes close though).
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Only voted in 8 of the genre polls and 8 of the series best polls; most of these games, I've never heard of, and many that I have heard of (metal gear, Call of Duty) I've never played more than ten minutes of.
I really have stuck to just a few video game series in my life... never really had the money to buy a hundred different games =(
On December 20 2012 13:34 RPR_Tempest wrote:Goldeneye beating Perfect Dark is a true injustice. Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 08:34 Nevermind86 wrote: Perfect Dark is a beatiful game, anybody that played it says the same thing, so well made, everything was perfect and the music is so beatiful I even downloaded it my pc, best soundtrack of any video game.
That's the important part of that quote. Despite the first pat of my post, I HAVE played goldeneye, and I've never palyed perfect dark. Therefore I can't very well justify voting for it, can I? I think a lot of people are in my boat here - goldeneye had the james bond name power, so it sold to more kids.
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mario kart 64 > super mario kart? git outta herrrrrre
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On December 20 2012 13:44 phyre112 wrote:Only voted in 8 of the genre polls and 8 of the series best polls; most of these games, I've never heard of, and many that I have heard of (metal gear, Call of Duty) I've never played more than ten minutes of. I really have stuck to just a few video game series in my life... never really had the money to buy a hundred different games =( Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 13:34 RPR_Tempest wrote:Goldeneye beating Perfect Dark is a true injustice. On December 20 2012 08:34 Nevermind86 wrote: Perfect Dark is a beatiful game, anybody that played it says the same thing, so well made, everything was perfect and the music is so beatiful I even downloaded it my pc, best soundtrack of any video game. That's the important part of that quote. Despite the first pat of my post, I HAVE played goldeneye, and I've never palyed perfect dark. Therefore I can't very well justify voting for it, can I? I think a lot of people are in my boat here - goldeneye had the james bond name power, so it sold to more kids.
It's a really close battle. I loved both games, and both are definately in my top 5 but I had to pick Goldeneye because I probably spent more time playing that game, and it was a more complete game IMO. I'd give both the single player and multiplayer 10/10 for goldeneye and in Perfect Dark. I'd only give the single player a 8-9/10 even if the multiplayer is slightly better (partly because of the addition of bots) I still have to give my vote to Goldeneye.
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On December 19 2012 11:51 dUTtrOACh wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2012 11:44 bo1b wrote:On December 19 2012 11:13 farvacola wrote:On December 19 2012 11:11 Scaramanga wrote:On December 19 2012 10:03 jdseemoreglass wrote:On December 19 2012 07:46 bo1b wrote: How in the world is Skyrim above Morrowind? Man, all you people saying this makes me want to play Morrowind. I never got around to it. It is undeniable though that Skyrim is better than Oblivion. No it's not, I'm of the opinion that oblivion is better than skyrim Why, if you don't mind me asking? The choice between Imperials and Stormcloak was made to seem more important than it really was, and at one point you could end up switching to the other side. Oblivion's engine was obviously trying to move the game away from being a skill based rpg (by that I mean the actual skills in the game) which for obvious reasons was appealing to a lot of people, but really just removed depth from the game and made it easy beyond belief. Skyrim came along and then dumbed the game down even further, removed any real benefits from choosing one race over another, further reduced the impact of skills and then took a leaf out of cods book and added perks, which ended up being boring as shit (to me at least). For me, beyond the pretty graphics and dramatic introduction, the storyline and offshoots just felt bland and predictable, and in the end the joy of a game which seemed like an improvement over Oblivion quickly faded, and I was left with a game that felt quite substantially more shallow then its predecessor. Ouch. Way to make everyone who likes Skyrim feel like a bit of a 'tard. I'm interested to know which one is genuinely better, having never played any of them ~except for Daggerfall. Morrowind had epic landscapes, broken gameplay and dull quests. Oblivion had less epic landscapes, same broken gameplay and EVEN DULLER QUESTS (the dark brotherhood quests being the exception, if you play oblivion only do these and skip everything else). Skyrim has less broken gameplay, less dull quests and more epic landscapes than oblivion. Hence Skyrim and Morrowind> Oblivion. none of the games are any good for a person who actually likes to use his brain while playing.
Goes without saying this is only my opinion, but i'm very confident in this assesment. If you truly liked oblivion it was only cause your fantasy is brilliant enough that you don't really need a game to entertain yourself.
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ROFL wolfenstein 3D loses and Wolfenstein Irrelevant is winning.
sad.
the results really show the age of a lot of voters. most aren't old enough to know how revolutionary some games were.
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On December 20 2012 13:34 RPR_Tempest wrote:Goldeneye beating Perfect Dark is a true injustice. Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 08:34 Nevermind86 wrote: Perfect Dark is a beatiful game, anybody that played it says the same thing, so well made, everything was perfect and the music is so beatiful I even downloaded it my pc, best soundtrack of any video game. I agree with this. Perfect Dark's soundtrack is AMAZING and probably the best soundtrack of any game (Advance Wars series comes close though).
Eh, I played both (and liked perfect dark enough to make my first 360 buy the new PD).
PD was just a reiteration of Goldeneye with better graphics. Goldeneye was revolutionary and redefined FPS. In fact, before goldeneye, FPS on console really didn't exist.
PD is good, but it's definitely second to goldeneye. I'd put it on Timesplitters level.
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Haha, out of all these listings, the only matchup where I've played both games is Super smash bros melee and brawl.
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You really put Rome Total War against Europea Universalis III against each other in the first round? lol
Also, some of these are fairly poorly classified. Day Z as a horror game?
HoN/LoL as strategy games?
This just isn't organized very well and isn't really a good idea to begin with; it's too general and long so most people aren't going to bother voting in all of these. It's hardly going to be "Teamliquid's Favorite" with sample sizes as small as it has now.
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On December 20 2012 16:29 BluePanther wrote: PD was just a reiteration of Goldeneye with better graphics. Goldeneye was revolutionary and redefined FPS. In fact, before goldeneye, FPS on console really didn't exist.
Turok came out first~
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On December 20 2012 16:37 Mindcrime wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 16:29 BluePanther wrote: PD was just a reiteration of Goldeneye with better graphics. Goldeneye was revolutionary and redefined FPS. In fact, before goldeneye, FPS on console really didn't exist. Turok came out first~
Did it? meh. i was never a fan of turok. although shooting the bow was kinda cool.
i still stand behind goldeneye being better.
iirc, wasn't PD built off the Goldeneye engine?
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TIL: Rare developed Super Off Road, R.C. Pro AM, and Jet Force Gemeni
Their list is super impressive...
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On December 20 2012 16:29 BluePanther wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 13:34 RPR_Tempest wrote:Goldeneye beating Perfect Dark is a true injustice. On December 20 2012 08:34 Nevermind86 wrote: Perfect Dark is a beatiful game, anybody that played it says the same thing, so well made, everything was perfect and the music is so beatiful I even downloaded it my pc, best soundtrack of any video game. I agree with this. Perfect Dark's soundtrack is AMAZING and probably the best soundtrack of any game (Advance Wars series comes close though). Eh, I played both (and liked perfect dark enough to make my first 360 buy the new PD). PD was just a reiteration of Goldeneye with better graphics. Goldeneye was revolutionary and redefined FPS. In fact, before goldeneye, FPS on console really didn't exist. PD is good, but it's definitely second to goldeneye. I'd put it on Timesplitters level.
You can look at it differently too: IMO Perfect Dark has held up better over time. Goldeneye may have been more important to video gaming history, but there is zero reason play Goldeneye now except nostalgia. There have been tons of good FPS in the last 15 years based on Goldeneye's foundation except with better graphics, better controls, and more gameplay options.
On December 20 2012 16:45 BluePanther wrote: TIL: Rare developed Super Off Road, R.C. Pro AM, and Jet Force Gemeni
Their list is super impressive...
But Blizzard developed Roll 'N Roll Racing!
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On December 20 2012 16:33 GGTeMpLaR wrote: You really put Rome Total War against Europea Universalis III against each other in the first round? lol
Also, some of these are fairly poorly classified. Day Z as a horror game?
HoN/LoL as strategy games?
This just isn't organized very well and isn't really a good idea to begin with; it's too general and long so most people aren't going to bother voting in all of these. It's hardly going to be "Teamliquid's Favorite" with sample sizes as small as it has now.
Despite the name of the thread, my reason for doing this is not to determine Teamliquid's favorite video game. The purpose is to get hundreds of the greatest games ever made out there for people to see, remember, and discuss about.
On December 19 2012 07:03 Shebuha wrote: Dude, just reading through the polls made me SO EXCITED. I want to go back and play Kirby's Dreamland, hit up Super Mario World and practice my ***ing wave dashing in melee.
I absolutely cannot decide between Half Life and Half Life 2. Half Life has some kinda magic, but Half Life 2 is beautiful. I remember when it came out I was blown away at the realness of the water, and running into G-Man again. So sweet.
On December 20 2012 07:57 Chronos. wrote: What a fun contest, seeing a lot of these games on here makes me want to go back and play them soon. These posts represent what this thread is trying to achieve. The tournament format is to catalyze discussion about any particular title that may be doing well or poorly.
Also, DayZ is classified as Survival Horror on Wikipedia, and has gameplay similar to S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Hence, their immediate match-up. And I see MOBA titles as sub-genres of Strategy, which I think is reasonable.
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On December 20 2012 16:24 BluePanther wrote: ROFL wolfenstein 3D loses and Wolfenstein Irrelevant is winning.
sad.
the results really show the age of a lot of voters. most aren't old enough to know how revolutionary some games were.
Depends on each voter's criteria. Are they voting how well they stand up today, how revolutionary they are, or how much fun they had playing them?
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On December 20 2012 16:56 dcemuser wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 16:29 BluePanther wrote:On December 20 2012 13:34 RPR_Tempest wrote:Goldeneye beating Perfect Dark is a true injustice. On December 20 2012 08:34 Nevermind86 wrote: Perfect Dark is a beatiful game, anybody that played it says the same thing, so well made, everything was perfect and the music is so beatiful I even downloaded it my pc, best soundtrack of any video game. I agree with this. Perfect Dark's soundtrack is AMAZING and probably the best soundtrack of any game (Advance Wars series comes close though). Eh, I played both (and liked perfect dark enough to make my first 360 buy the new PD). PD was just a reiteration of Goldeneye with better graphics. Goldeneye was revolutionary and redefined FPS. In fact, before goldeneye, FPS on console really didn't exist. PD is good, but it's definitely second to goldeneye. I'd put it on Timesplitters level. You can look at it differently too: IMO Perfect Dark has held up better over time. Goldeneye may have been more important to video gaming history, but there is zero reason play Goldeneye now except nostalgia. There have been tons of good FPS in the last 15 years based on Goldeneye's foundation except with better graphics, better controls, and more gameplay options. Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 16:45 BluePanther wrote: TIL: Rare developed Super Off Road, R.C. Pro AM, and Jet Force Gemeni
Their list is super impressive... But Blizzard developed Roll 'N Roll Racing!
I would never go back to play PD today.
The fact i've never heard about rock n roll racing speaks volumes.
honestly, i was never a huge fan of blizzard games beyond starcraft and WoW. might be heresy on these forums to say so, but i think blizzards is overrated. they make some "ok" games and a couple blockbusters. but they don't have the midas touch, and their acquisition by Activision has been anything but positive.
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wah, dwarf fortress is losing
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On December 20 2012 17:03 BluePanther wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 16:56 dcemuser wrote:On December 20 2012 16:29 BluePanther wrote:On December 20 2012 13:34 RPR_Tempest wrote:Goldeneye beating Perfect Dark is a true injustice. On December 20 2012 08:34 Nevermind86 wrote: Perfect Dark is a beatiful game, anybody that played it says the same thing, so well made, everything was perfect and the music is so beatiful I even downloaded it my pc, best soundtrack of any video game. I agree with this. Perfect Dark's soundtrack is AMAZING and probably the best soundtrack of any game (Advance Wars series comes close though). Eh, I played both (and liked perfect dark enough to make my first 360 buy the new PD). PD was just a reiteration of Goldeneye with better graphics. Goldeneye was revolutionary and redefined FPS. In fact, before goldeneye, FPS on console really didn't exist. PD is good, but it's definitely second to goldeneye. I'd put it on Timesplitters level. You can look at it differently too: IMO Perfect Dark has held up better over time. Goldeneye may have been more important to video gaming history, but there is zero reason play Goldeneye now except nostalgia. There have been tons of good FPS in the last 15 years based on Goldeneye's foundation except with better graphics, better controls, and more gameplay options. On December 20 2012 16:45 BluePanther wrote: TIL: Rare developed Super Off Road, R.C. Pro AM, and Jet Force Gemeni
Their list is super impressive... But Blizzard developed Roll 'N Roll Racing! The fact i've never heard about rock n roll racing speaks volumes. honestly, i was never a huge fan of blizzard games beyond starcraft and WoW. might be heresy on these forums to say so, but i think blizzards is overrated. they make some "ok" games and a couple blockbusters. but they don't have the midas touch, and their acquisition by Activision has been anything but positive.
The Lost Vikings is one of their best games IMHO and it was on Genesis/SNES. Brilliant puzzle game using mechanics that people still call "innovation" even in modern puzzle games (looking at you Trine).
The fact that you hadn't heard of their Genesis/SNES titles just meant they weren't crazy popular. Popularity is not always indicative of quality.
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On December 20 2012 17:00 dcemuser wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2012 16:24 BluePanther wrote: ROFL wolfenstein 3D loses and Wolfenstein Irrelevant is winning.
sad.
the results really show the age of a lot of voters. most aren't old enough to know how revolutionary some games were. Depends on each voter's criteria. Are they voting how well they stand up today, how revolutionary they are, or how much fun they had playing them?
wolfenstein 3d beats out battlefield 2 in each of those categories, imo. the only logical reason battlefield 2 could get a vote is based on one fact only: they person voting doesn't know anything about wolfenstein 3D. I remember playing this game when it came out, and it was SOOOO much better than anything that was out there (looking back on it, I was 7 and I do not understand why my adult neighbor gave it to me and why my parents let me play that...). Yet for some reason Doom is the only one that gets remembered today (which was merely a slight upgraded and reskinned).
I'm pretty sure this is age driving this.
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