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Forgottenfrog
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1268 Posts
January 29 2013 19:06 GMT
#481
On January 30 2013 03:48 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 03:38 sVnteen wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:27 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:16 Arghmyliver wrote:
On January 30 2013 02:32 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 09 2012 00:43 MooMu wrote:
Boy Scouts of America Rejects Eagle Scout Status to Gay Member

BSA standing up for their backwards policies against homosexuals yet again.

I respect their firm stance on this issue as it will make it more abundantly clear that this organization is inimical to a compassionate and progressive society and culture.

I propose they change their name to The Faggotless Boy Scouts of America (FBSA) to avoid any further issues in the future.Edited by KwarK to head off religion tangents

[Redacted - I was pissed. You understand]

Don't support the BSA until they get their shit together and join the rest of us in modernity.

Lol so their supposed to just drop everything that their organization stands for just because somebody who likes the opposite sex wants to join? That's preposterous. If their policies were written in respect to their religion then I don't see why you people don't think that they should be allowed to uphold it. It's always a one way ticket with you folks. Your way or the highway eh?


I think even the KKK is required to allow black members to join. You can believe whatever you want - but you can't be discriminatory in terms of you r membership.

I figured that would be an argument you would try to direct my way. Homosexuality has no color. lol you comparing a hate crime organization to a religious organization. I see what point you're trying to make though. But still, Homosexuality has no color and it certainly doesn't say Race: Homosexual on your license.


so what you are saying is taht it is ok to believe that homosexuality is bad but not that being black is bad?

Well, I look at it this way. Being A color of race doesn't stop reproduction. Ask yourself this: If the whole world was homosexual, how on earth would mankind cease to exist with no reproduction? If the whole world was black that wouldn't effect anything. However, it would certainly cure racism. I would say that it's not your choice to be born black, but in the same instance people tell me that they're born homosexual, so I have to rule out this comparison and refer to the reproductive analogy above. Is it right? Logically, no. Is it wrong to discriminate against them? Yes, but not under religious intent. There should be a similar program for homosexuals.


Reproducing has nothing to do with this topic and there will never be a time where the whole world is gay and we will become extinct. This is more about if I like to eat only oranges and hated apple-- where my membership is deny because of my personal preference.
llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
January 29 2013 19:10 GMT
#482
The problem is that people let their religion decide if homosexuality is right or wrong. Instead of studying the evidence of evolution. It's basically relying on a short answer. (a similar analogy would be to study material from wikipedia the day before the exam instead of studying the whole material in the textbook)
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
January 29 2013 19:11 GMT
#483
On January 30 2013 04:06 Forgottenfrog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 03:48 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:38 sVnteen wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:27 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:16 Arghmyliver wrote:
On January 30 2013 02:32 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 09 2012 00:43 MooMu wrote:
Boy Scouts of America Rejects Eagle Scout Status to Gay Member

BSA standing up for their backwards policies against homosexuals yet again.

I respect their firm stance on this issue as it will make it more abundantly clear that this organization is inimical to a compassionate and progressive society and culture.

I propose they change their name to The Faggotless Boy Scouts of America (FBSA) to avoid any further issues in the future.Edited by KwarK to head off religion tangents

[Redacted - I was pissed. You understand]

Don't support the BSA until they get their shit together and join the rest of us in modernity.

Lol so their supposed to just drop everything that their organization stands for just because somebody who likes the opposite sex wants to join? That's preposterous. If their policies were written in respect to their religion then I don't see why you people don't think that they should be allowed to uphold it. It's always a one way ticket with you folks. Your way or the highway eh?


I think even the KKK is required to allow black members to join. You can believe whatever you want - but you can't be discriminatory in terms of you r membership.

I figured that would be an argument you would try to direct my way. Homosexuality has no color. lol you comparing a hate crime organization to a religious organization. I see what point you're trying to make though. But still, Homosexuality has no color and it certainly doesn't say Race: Homosexual on your license.


so what you are saying is taht it is ok to believe that homosexuality is bad but not that being black is bad?

Well, I look at it this way. Being A color of race doesn't stop reproduction. Ask yourself this: If the whole world was homosexual, how on earth would mankind cease to exist with no reproduction? If the whole world was black that wouldn't effect anything. However, it would certainly cure racism. I would say that it's not your choice to be born black, but in the same instance people tell me that they're born homosexual, so I have to rule out this comparison and refer to the reproductive analogy above. Is it right? Logically, no. Is it wrong to discriminate against them? Yes, but not under religious intent. There should be a similar program for homosexuals.


Reproducing has nothing to do with this topic and there will never be a time where the whole world is gay and we will become extinct. This is more about if I like to eat only oranges and hated apple-- where my membership is deny because of my personal preference.
I was answering a question. You're right, there may never be a time where the entire world is homosexual. However, realistically homosexuality stops reproduction which is why it's wrong. Also, just because it's your personal preference doesn't mean it's right and that you should be allowed to just because your personal preference states otherwise.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18838 Posts
January 29 2013 19:14 GMT
#484
On January 30 2013 04:11 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 04:06 Forgottenfrog wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:48 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:38 sVnteen wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:27 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:16 Arghmyliver wrote:
On January 30 2013 02:32 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 09 2012 00:43 MooMu wrote:
Boy Scouts of America Rejects Eagle Scout Status to Gay Member

BSA standing up for their backwards policies against homosexuals yet again.

I respect their firm stance on this issue as it will make it more abundantly clear that this organization is inimical to a compassionate and progressive society and culture.

I propose they change their name to The Faggotless Boy Scouts of America (FBSA) to avoid any further issues in the future.Edited by KwarK to head off religion tangents

[Redacted - I was pissed. You understand]

Don't support the BSA until they get their shit together and join the rest of us in modernity.

Lol so their supposed to just drop everything that their organization stands for just because somebody who likes the opposite sex wants to join? That's preposterous. If their policies were written in respect to their religion then I don't see why you people don't think that they should be allowed to uphold it. It's always a one way ticket with you folks. Your way or the highway eh?


I think even the KKK is required to allow black members to join. You can believe whatever you want - but you can't be discriminatory in terms of you r membership.

I figured that would be an argument you would try to direct my way. Homosexuality has no color. lol you comparing a hate crime organization to a religious organization. I see what point you're trying to make though. But still, Homosexuality has no color and it certainly doesn't say Race: Homosexual on your license.


so what you are saying is taht it is ok to believe that homosexuality is bad but not that being black is bad?

Well, I look at it this way. Being A color of race doesn't stop reproduction. Ask yourself this: If the whole world was homosexual, how on earth would mankind cease to exist with no reproduction? If the whole world was black that wouldn't effect anything. However, it would certainly cure racism. I would say that it's not your choice to be born black, but in the same instance people tell me that they're born homosexual, so I have to rule out this comparison and refer to the reproductive analogy above. Is it right? Logically, no. Is it wrong to discriminate against them? Yes, but not under religious intent. There should be a similar program for homosexuals.


Reproducing has nothing to do with this topic and there will never be a time where the whole world is gay and we will become extinct. This is more about if I like to eat only oranges and hated apple-- where my membership is deny because of my personal preference.
I was answering a question. You're right, there may never be a time where the entire world is homosexual. However, realistically homosexuality stops reproduction which is why it's wrong. Also, just because it's your personal preference doesn't mean it's right and that you should be allowed to just because your personal preference states otherwise.

Nature requires that not every animal reproduce, so why does the lack of reproductive ability make homosexuality wrong again?
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Elsid
Profile Joined September 2010
Ireland318 Posts
January 29 2013 19:16 GMT
#485
On January 30 2013 04:11 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 04:06 Forgottenfrog wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:48 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:38 sVnteen wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:27 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:16 Arghmyliver wrote:
On January 30 2013 02:32 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 09 2012 00:43 MooMu wrote:
Boy Scouts of America Rejects Eagle Scout Status to Gay Member

BSA standing up for their backwards policies against homosexuals yet again.

I respect their firm stance on this issue as it will make it more abundantly clear that this organization is inimical to a compassionate and progressive society and culture.

I propose they change their name to The Faggotless Boy Scouts of America (FBSA) to avoid any further issues in the future.Edited by KwarK to head off religion tangents

[Redacted - I was pissed. You understand]

Don't support the BSA until they get their shit together and join the rest of us in modernity.

Lol so their supposed to just drop everything that their organization stands for just because somebody who likes the opposite sex wants to join? That's preposterous. If their policies were written in respect to their religion then I don't see why you people don't think that they should be allowed to uphold it. It's always a one way ticket with you folks. Your way or the highway eh?


I think even the KKK is required to allow black members to join. You can believe whatever you want - but you can't be discriminatory in terms of you r membership.

I figured that would be an argument you would try to direct my way. Homosexuality has no color. lol you comparing a hate crime organization to a religious organization. I see what point you're trying to make though. But still, Homosexuality has no color and it certainly doesn't say Race: Homosexual on your license.


so what you are saying is taht it is ok to believe that homosexuality is bad but not that being black is bad?

Well, I look at it this way. Being A color of race doesn't stop reproduction. Ask yourself this: If the whole world was homosexual, how on earth would mankind cease to exist with no reproduction? If the whole world was black that wouldn't effect anything. However, it would certainly cure racism. I would say that it's not your choice to be born black, but in the same instance people tell me that they're born homosexual, so I have to rule out this comparison and refer to the reproductive analogy above. Is it right? Logically, no. Is it wrong to discriminate against them? Yes, but not under religious intent. There should be a similar program for homosexuals.


Reproducing has nothing to do with this topic and there will never be a time where the whole world is gay and we will become extinct. This is more about if I like to eat only oranges and hated apple-- where my membership is deny because of my personal preference.
I was answering a question. You're right, there may never be a time where the entire world is homosexual. However, realistically homosexuality stops reproduction which is why it's wrong. Also, just because it's your personal preference doesn't mean it's right and that you should be allowed to just because your personal preference states otherwise.


How does it stop reproduction if a lot of gay people would choose not to reproduce regardless due to their lack of attraction to women?

Also when has sex ever been solely about reproduction. To be logically consistent and not just rampantly homophobic you'd have to ban anyone who doesn't end any sexual encounter without sperm inside the womans vagina.
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
January 29 2013 19:16 GMT
#486
On January 30 2013 04:11 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 04:06 Forgottenfrog wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:48 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:38 sVnteen wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:27 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:16 Arghmyliver wrote:
On January 30 2013 02:32 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 09 2012 00:43 MooMu wrote:
Boy Scouts of America Rejects Eagle Scout Status to Gay Member

BSA standing up for their backwards policies against homosexuals yet again.

I respect their firm stance on this issue as it will make it more abundantly clear that this organization is inimical to a compassionate and progressive society and culture.

I propose they change their name to The Faggotless Boy Scouts of America (FBSA) to avoid any further issues in the future.Edited by KwarK to head off religion tangents

[Redacted - I was pissed. You understand]

Don't support the BSA until they get their shit together and join the rest of us in modernity.

Lol so their supposed to just drop everything that their organization stands for just because somebody who likes the opposite sex wants to join? That's preposterous. If their policies were written in respect to their religion then I don't see why you people don't think that they should be allowed to uphold it. It's always a one way ticket with you folks. Your way or the highway eh?


I think even the KKK is required to allow black members to join. You can believe whatever you want - but you can't be discriminatory in terms of you r membership.

I figured that would be an argument you would try to direct my way. Homosexuality has no color. lol you comparing a hate crime organization to a religious organization. I see what point you're trying to make though. But still, Homosexuality has no color and it certainly doesn't say Race: Homosexual on your license.


so what you are saying is taht it is ok to believe that homosexuality is bad but not that being black is bad?

Well, I look at it this way. Being A color of race doesn't stop reproduction. Ask yourself this: If the whole world was homosexual, how on earth would mankind cease to exist with no reproduction? If the whole world was black that wouldn't effect anything. However, it would certainly cure racism. I would say that it's not your choice to be born black, but in the same instance people tell me that they're born homosexual, so I have to rule out this comparison and refer to the reproductive analogy above. Is it right? Logically, no. Is it wrong to discriminate against them? Yes, but not under religious intent. There should be a similar program for homosexuals.


Reproducing has nothing to do with this topic and there will never be a time where the whole world is gay and we will become extinct. This is more about if I like to eat only oranges and hated apple-- where my membership is deny because of my personal preference.
I was answering a question. You're right, there may never be a time where the entire world is homosexual. However, realistically homosexuality stops reproduction which is why it's wrong. Also, just because it's your personal preference doesn't mean it's right and that you should be allowed to just because your personal preference states otherwise.


Some people are attracted to the same sex. Homosexual behavior has been observed in animals. Have you ever considered that a genetic setup that would make a man gay would make a woman a better mother?

Nothing wrong with it and you are a bigot.
kmillz
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1548 Posts
January 29 2013 19:19 GMT
#487
On January 30 2013 04:11 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 04:06 Forgottenfrog wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:48 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:38 sVnteen wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:27 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:16 Arghmyliver wrote:
On January 30 2013 02:32 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 09 2012 00:43 MooMu wrote:
Boy Scouts of America Rejects Eagle Scout Status to Gay Member

BSA standing up for their backwards policies against homosexuals yet again.

I respect their firm stance on this issue as it will make it more abundantly clear that this organization is inimical to a compassionate and progressive society and culture.

I propose they change their name to The Faggotless Boy Scouts of America (FBSA) to avoid any further issues in the future.Edited by KwarK to head off religion tangents

[Redacted - I was pissed. You understand]

Don't support the BSA until they get their shit together and join the rest of us in modernity.

Lol so their supposed to just drop everything that their organization stands for just because somebody who likes the opposite sex wants to join? That's preposterous. If their policies were written in respect to their religion then I don't see why you people don't think that they should be allowed to uphold it. It's always a one way ticket with you folks. Your way or the highway eh?


I think even the KKK is required to allow black members to join. You can believe whatever you want - but you can't be discriminatory in terms of you r membership.

I figured that would be an argument you would try to direct my way. Homosexuality has no color. lol you comparing a hate crime organization to a religious organization. I see what point you're trying to make though. But still, Homosexuality has no color and it certainly doesn't say Race: Homosexual on your license.


so what you are saying is taht it is ok to believe that homosexuality is bad but not that being black is bad?

Well, I look at it this way. Being A color of race doesn't stop reproduction. Ask yourself this: If the whole world was homosexual, how on earth would mankind cease to exist with no reproduction? If the whole world was black that wouldn't effect anything. However, it would certainly cure racism. I would say that it's not your choice to be born black, but in the same instance people tell me that they're born homosexual, so I have to rule out this comparison and refer to the reproductive analogy above. Is it right? Logically, no. Is it wrong to discriminate against them? Yes, but not under religious intent. There should be a similar program for homosexuals.


Reproducing has nothing to do with this topic and there will never be a time where the whole world is gay and we will become extinct. This is more about if I like to eat only oranges and hated apple-- where my membership is deny because of my personal preference.
I was answering a question. You're right, there may never be a time where the entire world is homosexual. However, realistically homosexuality stops reproduction which is why it's wrong. Also, just because it's your personal preference doesn't mean it's right and that you should be allowed to just because your personal preference states otherwise.


Not having sex stops reproduction too, so all of the adults who are virgins are just as bad as the homosexuals then?
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-29 19:25:06
January 29 2013 19:24 GMT
#488
I'd say stopping reproduction is a big plus in my book. I think we should encourage more people to be homosexual, that way we can solve the population problem.

On January 30 2013 04:10 KAB00000000M wrote:
The problem is that people let their religion decide if homosexuality is right or wrong. Instead of studying the evidence of evolution.


studying evolution tells you absolutely nothing about right and wrong
shikata ga nai
Alay
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States660 Posts
January 29 2013 19:32 GMT
#489
On January 30 2013 03:48 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 03:38 sVnteen wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:27 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:16 Arghmyliver wrote:
On January 30 2013 02:32 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 09 2012 00:43 MooMu wrote:
Boy Scouts of America Rejects Eagle Scout Status to Gay Member

BSA standing up for their backwards policies against homosexuals yet again.

I respect their firm stance on this issue as it will make it more abundantly clear that this organization is inimical to a compassionate and progressive society and culture.

I propose they change their name to The Faggotless Boy Scouts of America (FBSA) to avoid any further issues in the future.Edited by KwarK to head off religion tangents

[Redacted - I was pissed. You understand]

Don't support the BSA until they get their shit together and join the rest of us in modernity.

Lol so their supposed to just drop everything that their organization stands for just because somebody who likes the opposite sex wants to join? That's preposterous. If their policies were written in respect to their religion then I don't see why you people don't think that they should be allowed to uphold it. It's always a one way ticket with you folks. Your way or the highway eh?


I think even the KKK is required to allow black members to join. You can believe whatever you want - but you can't be discriminatory in terms of you r membership.

I figured that would be an argument you would try to direct my way. Homosexuality has no color. lol you comparing a hate crime organization to a religious organization. I see what point you're trying to make though. But still, Homosexuality has no color and it certainly doesn't say Race: Homosexual on your license.


so what you are saying is taht it is ok to believe that homosexuality is bad but not that being black is bad?

Well, I look at it this way. Being A color of race doesn't stop reproduction. Ask yourself this: If the whole world was homosexual, how on earth would mankind cease to exist with no reproduction? If the whole world was black that wouldn't effect anything. However, it would certainly cure racism. I would say that it's not your choice to be born black, but in the same instance people tell me that they're born homosexual, so I have to rule out this comparison and refer to the reproductive analogy above. Is it right? Logically, no. Is it wrong to discriminate against them? Yes, but not under religious intent. There should be a similar program for homosexuals.


I'm not sure I can understand how you feel that the element of banning homosexuals on a basis of religious views is any more or less inherently 'wrong' than the previous widespread banning of blacks from organizations because of religious views (they were previously considered 'dirty souls' and stuff like that.)

Further, segregation of sexualities is kind of pointless and would only be there to try and belittle a minority or empower a majority.
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-29 19:38:59
January 29 2013 19:37 GMT
#490
On January 30 2013 04:11 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 04:06 Forgottenfrog wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:48 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:38 sVnteen wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:27 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:16 Arghmyliver wrote:
On January 30 2013 02:32 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 09 2012 00:43 MooMu wrote:
Boy Scouts of America Rejects Eagle Scout Status to Gay Member

BSA standing up for their backwards policies against homosexuals yet again.

I respect their firm stance on this issue as it will make it more abundantly clear that this organization is inimical to a compassionate and progressive society and culture.

I propose they change their name to The Faggotless Boy Scouts of America (FBSA) to avoid any further issues in the future.Edited by KwarK to head off religion tangents

[Redacted - I was pissed. You understand]

Don't support the BSA until they get their shit together and join the rest of us in modernity.

Lol so their supposed to just drop everything that their organization stands for just because somebody who likes the opposite sex wants to join? That's preposterous. If their policies were written in respect to their religion then I don't see why you people don't think that they should be allowed to uphold it. It's always a one way ticket with you folks. Your way or the highway eh?


I think even the KKK is required to allow black members to join. You can believe whatever you want - but you can't be discriminatory in terms of you r membership.

I figured that would be an argument you would try to direct my way. Homosexuality has no color. lol you comparing a hate crime organization to a religious organization. I see what point you're trying to make though. But still, Homosexuality has no color and it certainly doesn't say Race: Homosexual on your license.


so what you are saying is taht it is ok to believe that homosexuality is bad but not that being black is bad?

Well, I look at it this way. Being A color of race doesn't stop reproduction. Ask yourself this: If the whole world was homosexual, how on earth would mankind cease to exist with no reproduction? If the whole world was black that wouldn't effect anything. However, it would certainly cure racism. I would say that it's not your choice to be born black, but in the same instance people tell me that they're born homosexual, so I have to rule out this comparison and refer to the reproductive analogy above. Is it right? Logically, no. Is it wrong to discriminate against them? Yes, but not under religious intent. There should be a similar program for homosexuals.


Reproducing has nothing to do with this topic and there will never be a time where the whole world is gay and we will become extinct. This is more about if I like to eat only oranges and hated apple-- where my membership is deny because of my personal preference.
I was answering a question. You're right, there may never be a time where the entire world is homosexual. However, realistically homosexuality stops reproduction which is why it's wrong. Also, just because it's your personal preference doesn't mean it's right and that you should be allowed to just because your personal preference states otherwise.


This just in, uncontrollable population growth is a good thing.

There are many things that can stop reproduction. Are they all wrong? Is an awkward person who has never had sex in his life wrong? Is someone who can't find the right heterosexual partner in order to reproduce wrong? Is a heterosexual couple who decides not to have children wrong?

Your argument makes no sense. Unless you want to contest that all the cases above are morally wrong, you just don't like homosexuals and are looking for an argument to justify it.

And yes, just because it's someone's personal preference does mean it's right for them, and they should be allowed to exercise that preference. Obviously, as long as it is between consensual adults. What right do you have to tell other people how to live their lives? It doesn't affect you in the slightest.
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
January 29 2013 19:43 GMT
#491
On January 30 2013 04:32 Alay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 03:48 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:38 sVnteen wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:27 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:16 Arghmyliver wrote:
On January 30 2013 02:32 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 09 2012 00:43 MooMu wrote:
Boy Scouts of America Rejects Eagle Scout Status to Gay Member

BSA standing up for their backwards policies against homosexuals yet again.

I respect their firm stance on this issue as it will make it more abundantly clear that this organization is inimical to a compassionate and progressive society and culture.

I propose they change their name to The Faggotless Boy Scouts of America (FBSA) to avoid any further issues in the future.Edited by KwarK to head off religion tangents

[Redacted - I was pissed. You understand]

Don't support the BSA until they get their shit together and join the rest of us in modernity.

Lol so their supposed to just drop everything that their organization stands for just because somebody who likes the opposite sex wants to join? That's preposterous. If their policies were written in respect to their religion then I don't see why you people don't think that they should be allowed to uphold it. It's always a one way ticket with you folks. Your way or the highway eh?


I think even the KKK is required to allow black members to join. You can believe whatever you want - but you can't be discriminatory in terms of you r membership.

I figured that would be an argument you would try to direct my way. Homosexuality has no color. lol you comparing a hate crime organization to a religious organization. I see what point you're trying to make though. But still, Homosexuality has no color and it certainly doesn't say Race: Homosexual on your license.


so what you are saying is taht it is ok to believe that homosexuality is bad but not that being black is bad?

Well, I look at it this way. Being A color of race doesn't stop reproduction. Ask yourself this: If the whole world was homosexual, how on earth would mankind cease to exist with no reproduction? If the whole world was black that wouldn't effect anything. However, it would certainly cure racism. I would say that it's not your choice to be born black, but in the same instance people tell me that they're born homosexual, so I have to rule out this comparison and refer to the reproductive analogy above. Is it right? Logically, no. Is it wrong to discriminate against them? Yes, but not under religious intent. There should be a similar program for homosexuals.


I'm not sure I can understand how you feel that the element of banning homosexuals on a basis of religious views is any more or less inherently 'wrong' than the previous widespread banning of blacks from organizations because of religious views (they were previously considered 'dirty souls' and stuff like that.)

Further, segregation of sexualities is kind of pointless and would only be there to try and belittle a minority or empower a majority.

Their both wrong in a sense. However, being of color doesn't affect the mentality of someone of youth like two men kissing in public can. Kids are like monkey see, monkey do; these days. If a parent doesn't want their kids to be exposed to such activity them they should have the right to join an organization that teaches their young boy how to become a man, not a gay man and vice versa. There should be an organization like the BSoA that all gay men should be allowed to join a well. So they have the same opportunity.
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
January 29 2013 19:44 GMT
#492
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18838 Posts
January 29 2013 19:44 GMT
#493
On January 30 2013 04:43 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 04:32 Alay wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:48 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:38 sVnteen wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:27 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:16 Arghmyliver wrote:
On January 30 2013 02:32 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 09 2012 00:43 MooMu wrote:
Boy Scouts of America Rejects Eagle Scout Status to Gay Member

BSA standing up for their backwards policies against homosexuals yet again.

I respect their firm stance on this issue as it will make it more abundantly clear that this organization is inimical to a compassionate and progressive society and culture.

I propose they change their name to The Faggotless Boy Scouts of America (FBSA) to avoid any further issues in the future.Edited by KwarK to head off religion tangents

[Redacted - I was pissed. You understand]

Don't support the BSA until they get their shit together and join the rest of us in modernity.

Lol so their supposed to just drop everything that their organization stands for just because somebody who likes the opposite sex wants to join? That's preposterous. If their policies were written in respect to their religion then I don't see why you people don't think that they should be allowed to uphold it. It's always a one way ticket with you folks. Your way or the highway eh?


I think even the KKK is required to allow black members to join. You can believe whatever you want - but you can't be discriminatory in terms of you r membership.

I figured that would be an argument you would try to direct my way. Homosexuality has no color. lol you comparing a hate crime organization to a religious organization. I see what point you're trying to make though. But still, Homosexuality has no color and it certainly doesn't say Race: Homosexual on your license.


so what you are saying is taht it is ok to believe that homosexuality is bad but not that being black is bad?

Well, I look at it this way. Being A color of race doesn't stop reproduction. Ask yourself this: If the whole world was homosexual, how on earth would mankind cease to exist with no reproduction? If the whole world was black that wouldn't effect anything. However, it would certainly cure racism. I would say that it's not your choice to be born black, but in the same instance people tell me that they're born homosexual, so I have to rule out this comparison and refer to the reproductive analogy above. Is it right? Logically, no. Is it wrong to discriminate against them? Yes, but not under religious intent. There should be a similar program for homosexuals.


I'm not sure I can understand how you feel that the element of banning homosexuals on a basis of religious views is any more or less inherently 'wrong' than the previous widespread banning of blacks from organizations because of religious views (they were previously considered 'dirty souls' and stuff like that.)

Further, segregation of sexualities is kind of pointless and would only be there to try and belittle a minority or empower a majority.

Their both wrong in a sense. However, being of color doesn't affect the mentality of someone of youth like two men kissing in public can. Kids are like monkey see, monkey do; these days. If a parent doesn't want their kids to be exposed to such activity them they should have the right to join an organization that teaches their young boy how to become a man, not a gay man and vice versa. There should be an organization like the BSoA that all gay men should be allowed to join a well. So they have the same opportunity.

Kids are not like monkeys, and if a parent treats them as such, they deserve to have shit flung in their face. Gay men kissing do not owe shitty parents anything.
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sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
January 29 2013 19:47 GMT
#494
On January 30 2013 04:44 Emzeeshady wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 04:24 sam!zdat wrote:
I'd say stopping reproduction is a big plus in my book. I think we should encourage more people to be homosexual, that way we can solve the population problem.

On January 30 2013 04:10 KAB00000000M wrote:
The problem is that people let their religion decide if homosexuality is right or wrong. Instead of studying the evidence of evolution.


studying evolution tells you absolutely nothing about right and wrong

Neither does religon


So what does, then?
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h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
January 29 2013 19:48 GMT
#495
On January 30 2013 04:43 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 04:32 Alay wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:48 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:38 sVnteen wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:27 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:16 Arghmyliver wrote:
On January 30 2013 02:32 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 09 2012 00:43 MooMu wrote:
Boy Scouts of America Rejects Eagle Scout Status to Gay Member

BSA standing up for their backwards policies against homosexuals yet again.

I respect their firm stance on this issue as it will make it more abundantly clear that this organization is inimical to a compassionate and progressive society and culture.

I propose they change their name to The Faggotless Boy Scouts of America (FBSA) to avoid any further issues in the future.Edited by KwarK to head off religion tangents

[Redacted - I was pissed. You understand]

Don't support the BSA until they get their shit together and join the rest of us in modernity.

Lol so their supposed to just drop everything that their organization stands for just because somebody who likes the opposite sex wants to join? That's preposterous. If their policies were written in respect to their religion then I don't see why you people don't think that they should be allowed to uphold it. It's always a one way ticket with you folks. Your way or the highway eh?


I think even the KKK is required to allow black members to join. You can believe whatever you want - but you can't be discriminatory in terms of you r membership.

I figured that would be an argument you would try to direct my way. Homosexuality has no color. lol you comparing a hate crime organization to a religious organization. I see what point you're trying to make though. But still, Homosexuality has no color and it certainly doesn't say Race: Homosexual on your license.


so what you are saying is taht it is ok to believe that homosexuality is bad but not that being black is bad?

Well, I look at it this way. Being A color of race doesn't stop reproduction. Ask yourself this: If the whole world was homosexual, how on earth would mankind cease to exist with no reproduction? If the whole world was black that wouldn't effect anything. However, it would certainly cure racism. I would say that it's not your choice to be born black, but in the same instance people tell me that they're born homosexual, so I have to rule out this comparison and refer to the reproductive analogy above. Is it right? Logically, no. Is it wrong to discriminate against them? Yes, but not under religious intent. There should be a similar program for homosexuals.


I'm not sure I can understand how you feel that the element of banning homosexuals on a basis of religious views is any more or less inherently 'wrong' than the previous widespread banning of blacks from organizations because of religious views (they were previously considered 'dirty souls' and stuff like that.)

Further, segregation of sexualities is kind of pointless and would only be there to try and belittle a minority or empower a majority.

Their both wrong in a sense. However, being of color doesn't affect the mentality of someone of youth like two men kissing in public can. Kids are like monkey see, monkey do; these days. If a parent doesn't want their kids to be exposed to such activity them they should have the right to join an organization that teaches their young boy how to become a man, not a gay man and vice versa. There should be an organization like the BSoA that all gay men should be allowed to join a well. So they have the same opportunity.


You got to be trolling.
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
January 29 2013 19:50 GMT
#496
On January 30 2013 04:43 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 04:32 Alay wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:48 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:38 sVnteen wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:27 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:16 Arghmyliver wrote:
On January 30 2013 02:32 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 09 2012 00:43 MooMu wrote:
Boy Scouts of America Rejects Eagle Scout Status to Gay Member

BSA standing up for their backwards policies against homosexuals yet again.

I respect their firm stance on this issue as it will make it more abundantly clear that this organization is inimical to a compassionate and progressive society and culture.

I propose they change their name to The Faggotless Boy Scouts of America (FBSA) to avoid any further issues in the future.Edited by KwarK to head off religion tangents

[Redacted - I was pissed. You understand]

Don't support the BSA until they get their shit together and join the rest of us in modernity.

Lol so their supposed to just drop everything that their organization stands for just because somebody who likes the opposite sex wants to join? That's preposterous. If their policies were written in respect to their religion then I don't see why you people don't think that they should be allowed to uphold it. It's always a one way ticket with you folks. Your way or the highway eh?


I think even the KKK is required to allow black members to join. You can believe whatever you want - but you can't be discriminatory in terms of you r membership.

I figured that would be an argument you would try to direct my way. Homosexuality has no color. lol you comparing a hate crime organization to a religious organization. I see what point you're trying to make though. But still, Homosexuality has no color and it certainly doesn't say Race: Homosexual on your license.


so what you are saying is taht it is ok to believe that homosexuality is bad but not that being black is bad?

Well, I look at it this way. Being A color of race doesn't stop reproduction. Ask yourself this: If the whole world was homosexual, how on earth would mankind cease to exist with no reproduction? If the whole world was black that wouldn't effect anything. However, it would certainly cure racism. I would say that it's not your choice to be born black, but in the same instance people tell me that they're born homosexual, so I have to rule out this comparison and refer to the reproductive analogy above. Is it right? Logically, no. Is it wrong to discriminate against them? Yes, but not under religious intent. There should be a similar program for homosexuals.


I'm not sure I can understand how you feel that the element of banning homosexuals on a basis of religious views is any more or less inherently 'wrong' than the previous widespread banning of blacks from organizations because of religious views (they were previously considered 'dirty souls' and stuff like that.)

Further, segregation of sexualities is kind of pointless and would only be there to try and belittle a minority or empower a majority.

Their both wrong in a sense. However, being of color doesn't affect the mentality of someone of youth like two men kissing in public can. Kids are like monkey see, monkey do; these days. If a parent doesn't want their kids to be exposed to such activity them they should have the right to join an organization that teaches their young boy how to become a man, not a gay man and vice versa. There should be an organization like the BSoA that all gay men should be allowed to join a well. So they have the same opportunity.


Explain in detail why kids are more like monkeys "these days" than in the past. I'd love to hear your detailed explanation.
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BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
January 29 2013 19:52 GMT
#497
On January 30 2013 04:37 ZasZ. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 04:11 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 30 2013 04:06 Forgottenfrog wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:48 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:38 sVnteen wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:27 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:16 Arghmyliver wrote:
On January 30 2013 02:32 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 09 2012 00:43 MooMu wrote:
Boy Scouts of America Rejects Eagle Scout Status to Gay Member

BSA standing up for their backwards policies against homosexuals yet again.

I respect their firm stance on this issue as it will make it more abundantly clear that this organization is inimical to a compassionate and progressive society and culture.

I propose they change their name to The Faggotless Boy Scouts of America (FBSA) to avoid any further issues in the future.Edited by KwarK to head off religion tangents

[Redacted - I was pissed. You understand]

Don't support the BSA until they get their shit together and join the rest of us in modernity.

Lol so their supposed to just drop everything that their organization stands for just because somebody who likes the opposite sex wants to join? That's preposterous. If their policies were written in respect to their religion then I don't see why you people don't think that they should be allowed to uphold it. It's always a one way ticket with you folks. Your way or the highway eh?


I think even the KKK is required to allow black members to join. You can believe whatever you want - but you can't be discriminatory in terms of you r membership.

I figured that would be an argument you would try to direct my way. Homosexuality has no color. lol you comparing a hate crime organization to a religious organization. I see what point you're trying to make though. But still, Homosexuality has no color and it certainly doesn't say Race: Homosexual on your license.


so what you are saying is taht it is ok to believe that homosexuality is bad but not that being black is bad?

Well, I look at it this way. Being A color of race doesn't stop reproduction. Ask yourself this: If the whole world was homosexual, how on earth would mankind cease to exist with no reproduction? If the whole world was black that wouldn't effect anything. However, it would certainly cure racism. I would say that it's not your choice to be born black, but in the same instance people tell me that they're born homosexual, so I have to rule out this comparison and refer to the reproductive analogy above. Is it right? Logically, no. Is it wrong to discriminate against them? Yes, but not under religious intent. There should be a similar program for homosexuals.


Reproducing has nothing to do with this topic and there will never be a time where the whole world is gay and we will become extinct. This is more about if I like to eat only oranges and hated apple-- where my membership is deny because of my personal preference.
I was answering a question. You're right, there may never be a time where the entire world is homosexual. However, realistically homosexuality stops reproduction which is why it's wrong. Also, just because it's your personal preference doesn't mean it's right and that you should be allowed to just because your personal preference states otherwise.


This just in, uncontrollable population growth is a good thing.

There are many things that can stop reproduction. Are they all wrong? Is an awkward person who has never had sex in his life wrong? Is someone who can't find the right heterosexual partner in order to reproduce wrong? Is a heterosexual couple who decides not to have children wrong?

Your argument makes no sense. Unless you want to contest that all the cases above are morally wrong, you just don't like homosexuals and are looking for an argument to justify it.

And yes, just because it's someone's personal preference does mean it's right for them, and they should be allowed to exercise that preference. Obviously, as long as it is between consensual adults. What right do you have to tell other people how to live their lives? It doesn't affect you in the slightest.
Only to somebody who's bias regardless of what the truth is would say that my "argument doesn't make sense". Sure there are a widespread of things that can prevent reproduction but none of them hold a candle to my analogy. It's just the truth, accept it for what it is and move on. I don't have a problem with homosexuals at all. Also, where did I try to tell them how to live their lives? You speak of two consensual adults -- I have no problem with that. We're talking about "boy" scouts, that's where the problem lies.
kmillz
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1548 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-29 19:56:33
January 29 2013 19:54 GMT
#498
On January 30 2013 04:47 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 04:44 Emzeeshady wrote:
On January 30 2013 04:24 sam!zdat wrote:
I'd say stopping reproduction is a big plus in my book. I think we should encourage more people to be homosexual, that way we can solve the population problem.

On January 30 2013 04:10 KAB00000000M wrote:
The problem is that people let their religion decide if homosexuality is right or wrong. Instead of studying the evidence of evolution.


studying evolution tells you absolutely nothing about right and wrong

Neither does religon


So what does, then?


Your brain. The ability to relate to someone. I feel it is wrong to hurt somebody because it causes me pain when other people hurt me. I feel it is wrong to steal from somebody because it pisses me off when people steal things from me. Right and wrong is all relative of course, but to me those things are wrong and most people would probably agree with those things being wrong. I am a married man, if someone told me I can't marry my wife because of her sex I'd tell them to go fuck themself, I don't hear any reasonable explanation for why gay people shouldn't marry. The closest one I have heard is that you can't reproduce by having gay sex but that's stupid because you can't reproduce by masturbating (also a sin) or abstaining (encouraged).

Edit: Does BSA have a policy on masturbation?
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-29 19:56:29
January 29 2013 19:55 GMT
#499
On January 30 2013 04:50 PanN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 04:43 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 30 2013 04:32 Alay wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:48 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:38 sVnteen wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:27 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:16 Arghmyliver wrote:
On January 30 2013 02:32 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 09 2012 00:43 MooMu wrote:
Boy Scouts of America Rejects Eagle Scout Status to Gay Member

BSA standing up for their backwards policies against homosexuals yet again.

I respect their firm stance on this issue as it will make it more abundantly clear that this organization is inimical to a compassionate and progressive society and culture.

I propose they change their name to The Faggotless Boy Scouts of America (FBSA) to avoid any further issues in the future.Edited by KwarK to head off religion tangents

[Redacted - I was pissed. You understand]

Don't support the BSA until they get their shit together and join the rest of us in modernity.

Lol so their supposed to just drop everything that their organization stands for just because somebody who likes the opposite sex wants to join? That's preposterous. If their policies were written in respect to their religion then I don't see why you people don't think that they should be allowed to uphold it. It's always a one way ticket with you folks. Your way or the highway eh?


I think even the KKK is required to allow black members to join. You can believe whatever you want - but you can't be discriminatory in terms of you r membership.

I figured that would be an argument you would try to direct my way. Homosexuality has no color. lol you comparing a hate crime organization to a religious organization. I see what point you're trying to make though. But still, Homosexuality has no color and it certainly doesn't say Race: Homosexual on your license.


so what you are saying is taht it is ok to believe that homosexuality is bad but not that being black is bad?

Well, I look at it this way. Being A color of race doesn't stop reproduction. Ask yourself this: If the whole world was homosexual, how on earth would mankind cease to exist with no reproduction? If the whole world was black that wouldn't effect anything. However, it would certainly cure racism. I would say that it's not your choice to be born black, but in the same instance people tell me that they're born homosexual, so I have to rule out this comparison and refer to the reproductive analogy above. Is it right? Logically, no. Is it wrong to discriminate against them? Yes, but not under religious intent. There should be a similar program for homosexuals.


I'm not sure I can understand how you feel that the element of banning homosexuals on a basis of religious views is any more or less inherently 'wrong' than the previous widespread banning of blacks from organizations because of religious views (they were previously considered 'dirty souls' and stuff like that.)

Further, segregation of sexualities is kind of pointless and would only be there to try and belittle a minority or empower a majority.

Their both wrong in a sense. However, being of color doesn't affect the mentality of someone of youth like two men kissing in public can. Kids are like monkey see, monkey do; these days. If a parent doesn't want their kids to be exposed to such activity them they should have the right to join an organization that teaches their young boy how to become a man, not a gay man and vice versa. There should be an organization like the BSoA that all gay men should be allowed to join a well. So they have the same opportunity.


Explain in detail why kids are more like monkeys "these days" than in the past. I'd love to hear your detailed explanation.
Simple. Who do kids try to emulate when their younger or older for that matter? Celebrities, Athletes, Musicians, Reality show divas, etc. Kids were the same way in the past. Maybe I should have clarified a little better. But regardless, you get what I'm trying to say.
PanN
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2828 Posts
January 29 2013 19:57 GMT
#500
On January 30 2013 04:55 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2013 04:50 PanN wrote:
On January 30 2013 04:43 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 30 2013 04:32 Alay wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:48 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:38 sVnteen wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:27 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On January 30 2013 03:16 Arghmyliver wrote:
On January 30 2013 02:32 BlazeFury01 wrote:
On October 09 2012 00:43 MooMu wrote:
Boy Scouts of America Rejects Eagle Scout Status to Gay Member

BSA standing up for their backwards policies against homosexuals yet again.

I respect their firm stance on this issue as it will make it more abundantly clear that this organization is inimical to a compassionate and progressive society and culture.

I propose they change their name to The Faggotless Boy Scouts of America (FBSA) to avoid any further issues in the future.Edited by KwarK to head off religion tangents

[Redacted - I was pissed. You understand]

Don't support the BSA until they get their shit together and join the rest of us in modernity.

Lol so their supposed to just drop everything that their organization stands for just because somebody who likes the opposite sex wants to join? That's preposterous. If their policies were written in respect to their religion then I don't see why you people don't think that they should be allowed to uphold it. It's always a one way ticket with you folks. Your way or the highway eh?


I think even the KKK is required to allow black members to join. You can believe whatever you want - but you can't be discriminatory in terms of you r membership.

I figured that would be an argument you would try to direct my way. Homosexuality has no color. lol you comparing a hate crime organization to a religious organization. I see what point you're trying to make though. But still, Homosexuality has no color and it certainly doesn't say Race: Homosexual on your license.


so what you are saying is taht it is ok to believe that homosexuality is bad but not that being black is bad?

Well, I look at it this way. Being A color of race doesn't stop reproduction. Ask yourself this: If the whole world was homosexual, how on earth would mankind cease to exist with no reproduction? If the whole world was black that wouldn't effect anything. However, it would certainly cure racism. I would say that it's not your choice to be born black, but in the same instance people tell me that they're born homosexual, so I have to rule out this comparison and refer to the reproductive analogy above. Is it right? Logically, no. Is it wrong to discriminate against them? Yes, but not under religious intent. There should be a similar program for homosexuals.


I'm not sure I can understand how you feel that the element of banning homosexuals on a basis of religious views is any more or less inherently 'wrong' than the previous widespread banning of blacks from organizations because of religious views (they were previously considered 'dirty souls' and stuff like that.)

Further, segregation of sexualities is kind of pointless and would only be there to try and belittle a minority or empower a majority.

Their both wrong in a sense. However, being of color doesn't affect the mentality of someone of youth like two men kissing in public can. Kids are like monkey see, monkey do; these days. If a parent doesn't want their kids to be exposed to such activity them they should have the right to join an organization that teaches their young boy how to become a man, not a gay man and vice versa. There should be an organization like the BSoA that all gay men should be allowed to join a well. So they have the same opportunity.


Explain in detail why kids are more like monkeys "these days" than in the past. I'd love to hear your detailed explanation.
Simple. Who do kids try to emulate when their younger or older for that matter? Celebrities, Athletes, Musicians, Reality show divas, etc.


Celebrities, atheletes, and musicians have existed for a long time. You're not convincing me at all here. You're saying kids have role models. I knew that part already.
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