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On September 18 2012 04:19 Positronic wrote:
Because the entire purpose of SRS is to post the hate and bigotry that fills up Reddit? You do understand that the material posted there is from the rest of the site right? Be angry at Reddit as a whole or at the individuals posting the content that's shown in SRS, not the people making it known what idiocy is perpetrated there.
I thought the purpose of SRS is to act as a ghetto for whiny "social justice" types. You know, people that have Tumblr accounts. Those people manage the amazing achievement of being more obnoxious and circle-jerking than the rest of Reddit from what I've seen, which I find amazing.
On September 18 2012 04:53 besteady wrote:
Although this topic is out of date,I just wanna say that if you spend any time at all on the site, it becomes apparent that there are a lot of racists and sexists on reddit. On top of that, the non bigoted people on there have some gut reaction against censorship so for some reason they think that they need to defend the rights of everyone else no matter how ugly their opinions. Also a lot of young kids read reddit, and if they see this shit as accepted on reddit, they might think its acceptable in everyday life, which can lead to some screwed up kids.
I'd have thought someone from the United States would understand the importance of freedom of speech.
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Freedom of speech does not include sexualizing underage kids, which for some reason a large part of reddit thinks it does
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On September 18 2012 04:39 Positronic wrote:
Actually SomethingAwful has done a lot of good things (tens of thousands of dollars donated to various causes around the world), but don't let that stop you from believing I'm working to take away your right to fantasize about that girl next door who's still in high school.
you want to take away someone's right to think?
edit: Yeah and GOD FORBID anything like this keep existing
"Creepshots' FAQ states: "Creepshots are CANDID. If a person is posing for and/or aware that a picture is being taken, then it ceases to be candid and thus is no longer a creepshot. A creepshot captures the natural, raw sexiness of the subject without their vain attempts at putting on a show for the camera. That is the essence of the creepshot, that is what makes a true creepshot worth the effort and that is why this sub-reddit exists.""
am I a bad person if I I don't see anything wrong with this? paparazzi exist, and this is basically the same thing but with an ordinary citizen as the subject.
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On September 18 2012 02:01 Parlortricks wrote:
Time to contact Reddit's sponsors.
LOL
They really should do something about these subreddits imo, but it looks unlikely that they will any time soon
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On September 18 2012 04:53 besteady wrote:
Although this topic is out of date,I just wanna say that if you spend any time at all on the site, it becomes apparent that there are a lot of racists and sexists on reddit. On top of that, the non bigoted people on there have some gut reaction against censorship so for some reason they think that they need to defend the rights of everyone else no matter how ugly their opinions. Also a lot of young kids read reddit, and if they see this shit as accepted on reddit, they might think its acceptable in everyday life, which can lead to some screwed up kids.
So true. But I wouldn't stop censoring all the sick stuff only from reddit.
Our kids are exposed to sex and violence everytime when they turn on the TV. And without proper supervision how are they supposed to know the difference between TV and reality? Just look the kids who act and dress like prostitues and don't have any respect to authorities anymore.
It's hardly surprising that crime rate is skyrocketing with kids idols being gangster rappers always singing about their high salary and fancy women.
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It's basically a minituare version of the internet. Yes there is bad stuff, yes there is good stuff.
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On September 18 2012 05:10 starfries wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 04:39 Positronic wrote:
Actually SomethingAwful has done a lot of good things (tens of thousands of dollars donated to various causes around the world), but don't let that stop you from believing I'm working to take away your right to fantasize about that girl next door who's still in high school. you want to take away someone's right to think? Show nested quote +
edit: Yeah and GOD FORBID anything like this keep existing
"Creepshots' FAQ states: "Creepshots are CANDID. If a person is posing for and/or aware that a picture is being taken, then it ceases to be candid and thus is no longer a creepshot. A creepshot captures the natural, raw sexiness of the subject without their vain attempts at putting on a show for the camera. That is the essence of the creepshot, that is what makes a true creepshot worth the effort and that is why this sub-reddit exists.""
am I a bad person if I I don't see anything wrong with this? paparazzi exist, and this is basically the same thing but with an ordinary citizen as the subject.
so you are fine with people secretly taking " private" pictures of you to post them for creeps on some shitty board? i doubt that.
and paparazzi are among the worst scum doing a "legal" job out there.
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On September 18 2012 05:03 Fireflies wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 04:19 Positronic wrote:
Because the entire purpose of SRS is to post the hate and bigotry that fills up Reddit? You do understand that the material posted there is from the rest of the site right? Be angry at Reddit as a whole or at the individuals posting the content that's shown in SRS, not the people making it known what idiocy is perpetrated there. I thought the purpose of SRS is to act as a ghetto for whiny "social justice" types. You know, people that have Tumblr accounts. Those people manage the amazing achievement of being more obnoxious and circle-jerking than the rest of Reddit from what I've seen, which I find amazing. Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 04:53 besteady wrote:
Although this topic is out of date,I just wanna say that if you spend any time at all on the site, it becomes apparent that there are a lot of racists and sexists on reddit. On top of that, the non bigoted people on there have some gut reaction against censorship so for some reason they think that they need to defend the rights of everyone else no matter how ugly their opinions. Also a lot of young kids read reddit, and if they see this shit as accepted on reddit, they might think its acceptable in everyday life, which can lead to some screwed up kids. I'd have thought someone from the United States would understand the importance of freedom of speech.
It is. SRS is full of PC whiners and misandrists who use sarcasm and "it's all a joke!" as a cover. There is a lot of ugly stuff on reddit however, but the vast majority of SRS posts are "OMG a man said men get raped too!"
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Let me ask again. What is this Reddit you speak of?
Somehow Reddit and Facebook have never captured my interest and I never visited those sites (I believe I even have facebook banned in my hosts file so no one using my computer can connect to it).
Edit: Indeed, facebook.com is returned as 127.0.0.1
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On September 18 2012 05:16 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 05:10 starfries wrote:On September 18 2012 04:39 Positronic wrote:
Actually SomethingAwful has done a lot of good things (tens of thousands of dollars donated to various causes around the world), but don't let that stop you from believing I'm working to take away your right to fantasize about that girl next door who's still in high school. you want to take away someone's right to think?
edit: Yeah and GOD FORBID anything like this keep existing
"Creepshots' FAQ states: "Creepshots are CANDID. If a person is posing for and/or aware that a picture is being taken, then it ceases to be candid and thus is no longer a creepshot. A creepshot captures the natural, raw sexiness of the subject without their vain attempts at putting on a show for the camera. That is the essence of the creepshot, that is what makes a true creepshot worth the effort and that is why this sub-reddit exists.""
am I a bad person if I I don't see anything wrong with this? paparazzi exist, and this is basically the same thing but with an ordinary citizen as the subject. so you are fine with people secretly taking " private" pictures of you to post them for creeps on some shitty board? i doubt that.
I won't like it, but legally they are allowed to. (as long as it doesn't constitute "invasion of privacy")
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On September 18 2012 05:10 starfries wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 04:39 Positronic wrote:
Actually SomethingAwful has done a lot of good things (tens of thousands of dollars donated to various causes around the world), but don't let that stop you from believing I'm working to take away your right to fantasize about that girl next door who's still in high school. you want to take away someone's right to think?
XD did you take that as a serious statement? come on now son...
edit: Yeah and GOD FORBID anything like this keep existing
"Creepshots' FAQ states: "Creepshots are CANDID. If a person is posing for and/or aware that a picture is being taken, then it ceases to be candid and thus is no longer a creepshot. A creepshot captures the natural, raw sexiness of the subject without their vain attempts at putting on a show for the camera. That is the essence of the creepshot, that is what makes a true creepshot worth the effort and that is why this sub-reddit exists.""
On September 18 2012 05:10 starfries wrote:am I a bad person if I I don't see anything wrong with this? paparazzi exist, and this is basically the same thing but with an ordinary citizen as the subject.
And yeah, you might be a bad person if you don't see anything wrong with that. I, for one, don't believe that my GF or any other woman should have to worry about guys sneaking shots of them for their own personal masturbation to post on a creepy internet forum. Guys who are not marked as press or have visible cameras, just randoms on the street who obviously are mentally underdeveloped enough not to be able to get girlfriends of their own.
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>A subreddit called "seduction" devoted to teaching men how to rape women
Really? That's not what the subreddit is about at all, and anyone asking how to rape women would be downvoted rapidly. SRS needs to learn how to limit it's aim - when you sprinkle in absolute lies with things that are in a legitimate "legal but creepy" area like /r/creepshots you diminish the impact of your push. I skimmed the big link you posted in the OP but after seeing r/seduction described as "how-to-rape subreddit" I've lost all interest - it's clear they are being dishonest and manipulative and have lost credibility.
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On September 18 2012 05:19 Positronic wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 05:10 starfries wrote:On September 18 2012 04:39 Positronic wrote:
Actually SomethingAwful has done a lot of good things (tens of thousands of dollars donated to various causes around the world), but don't let that stop you from believing I'm working to take away your right to fantasize about that girl next door who's still in high school. you want to take away someone's right to think? XD did you take that as a serious statement? come on now son...
then reword it for my benefit. what are you trying to do?
Show nested quote +
edit: Yeah and GOD FORBID anything like this keep existing
"Creepshots' FAQ states: "Creepshots are CANDID. If a person is posing for and/or aware that a picture is being taken, then it ceases to be candid and thus is no longer a creepshot. A creepshot captures the natural, raw sexiness of the subject without their vain attempts at putting on a show for the camera. That is the essence of the creepshot, that is what makes a true creepshot worth the effort and that is why this sub-reddit exists.""
Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 05:10 starfries wrote:am I a bad person if I I don't see anything wrong with this? paparazzi exist, and this is basically the same thing but with an ordinary citizen as the subject. And yeah, you might be a bad person if you don't see anything wrong with that. I, for one, don't believe that my GF or any other woman should have to worry about guys sneaking shots of them for their own personal masturbation to post on a creepy internet forum. Guys who are not marked as press or have visible cameras, just randoms on the street who obviously are mentally underdeveloped enough not to be able to get girlfriends of their own.
I would rather they didn't, but there are a lot of things that I would rather people didn't do. they still have a right to do those things.
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So I decided to just go through the subreddits listed to confirm/deny whether or not it's stuff that should be taken care of.
girlsinschooluniforms - NSFW. Looks like college/private school/porn stars. Haven't seen anything resembling child porn though.
volleyballgirls - Bunch of images of girls in volleyball outfits, usually focusing on their asses. Bearing in mind these uniforms are what they play in at public matches, again nothing resembling child porn.
TeenSex - Banned subreddit. Seems like they do in fact clean up the messes they find.
realteens - Banned subreddit.
johnnybait - Banned subreddit.
JailbaitPhotos - Troll subreddit with literally 7 posts. Not actual child porn
Underage - Banned subreddit.
Jail_bait - only one post linking to yet another Banned subreddit.
Jailbaits - Banned subreddit.
NSFW_JAILBAIT_TUBE - Banned subreddit.
PregnantJailbait - Banned subreddit.
PhotoPlunder - NSFW. Reposted pictures of women found on the internet. Has rules against underaged girls specifically.
FacebookCleavage - NSFW. Essentially pictures women post on their facebooks for the public to see in dresses, bikini's etc showing cleavage. Also has rules against underaged girls.
japanese_idols - Private subreddit. Unverifiable but I'm pretty sure Reddit Admins can see what's behind the door to make sure.
AngieVerona - Private subreddit. Questionable because of it's name but again, Reddit Admins probably have access.
The Voyeurism stuff is something that should be investigated by the appropriate authorities, as well as the rape/incest stuff but I don't think reddit is responsible for looking up every single discussion to make sure people aren't talking about it. Finding something you think is illegal and reporting it is about the best you can do since some of the topics walk a thin line where discussion without necessarily committing criminal acts isn't grounds for deletion.
Ultimately it seems reddit does a damn good job at closing down subreddits that blatantly cross the line, so I don't believe outrage towards reddit is warranted. Yes, despite their efforts there are most certainly still sick people on reddit. Sick people exist in this world and they use the internet, it's just impossible to stop this, but it's not reddit's fault.
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On September 18 2012 01:51 KwarK wrote:
It's a broad means of communication between people and some people are bad. Saying I don't like using the sc2 reddit because of jailbait reddits is like saying I don't like playing computer games online because the internet has child porn on it. They're not endorsing it or encouraging it, the people who are posting about it do that. Go after the people, not the medium. It's probably helpful that they're all posting about it online anyway given the difficulty of staying anonymous on the internet these days.
I disagree. All of these horrible subreddits can only exist if Reddit lets them; I approve of their defense of freedom of expression, but they can't let their site become a haven and a community for creeps, stalkers, pedophiles and misogyny.
I generally approve of protecting free speech, but Reddit also needs to look at the evidence and ask itself whether this is the kind of site it wants to be. I hope the answer is "no".
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On September 18 2012 05:18 Manit0u wrote:
Let me ask again. What is this Reddit you speak of?
Somehow Reddit and Facebook have never captured my interest and I never visited those sites (I believe I even have facebook banned in my hosts file so no one using my computer can connect to it).
Edit: Indeed, facebook.com is returned as 127.0.0.1
That's cool, bro. Something to brag about for sure - like not having a TV.
Reddit admins are going to walk that thin line that maximizes 'page hits' - a balance between 'free speech' and 'not offending people too much'.
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Is it bad that I've subscribed to several of the ones in the OP(no jailbait though iirc)? Have seen some pretty wild shit on those but nothing illegal I think. Illegal subreddits get reported and shut down fairly quickly afaik. Also people tend to exaggerate and twist facts when it comes to things like this.
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On September 18 2012 05:36 Zato-1 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 01:51 KwarK wrote:
It's a broad means of communication between people and some people are bad. Saying I don't like using the sc2 reddit because of jailbait reddits is like saying I don't like playing computer games online because the internet has child porn on it. They're not endorsing it or encouraging it, the people who are posting about it do that. Go after the people, not the medium. It's probably helpful that they're all posting about it online anyway given the difficulty of staying anonymous on the internet these days. I disagree. All of these horrible subreddits can only exist if Reddit lets them; I approve of their defense of freedom of expression, but they can't let their site become a haven and a community for creeps, stalkers, pedophiles and misogyny. I generally approve of protecting free speech, but Reddit also needs to look at the evidence and ask itself whether this is the kind of site it wants to be. I hope the answer is "no".
Yes, they can. They can't let the blatantly illegal stuff stay due to possible legal consequences, but everything else is acceptable. Don't you know that being a pedophile isn't illegal unlike being a child molester/rapist?
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Reddit gets negative heat while 4chan skips a long with a troll face and spider man flying by saying "taking over". Well anyways it's the internet and having a public posting site like reddit is always going to invite sick people. Just be educated and don't go near those sub reddits. Honestly I don't like the idea of reddit in the first place where mobs and quick one liner jokes seem to be the direction.
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Why would you bring up 4chan? Other than reposting material from 4chan, they have little to do with each other.
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