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On August 06 2012 00:51 ZXRP wrote:
I would like to share a quote from an episode of the West Wing where the character Sam Seaborn was asked this very question.
Sam Seaborn: There are a lot of hungry people in the world, Mal, and none of them are hungry 'cause we went to the moon. None of them are colder and certainly none of them are dumber 'cause we went to the moon.
Mallory O'Brian: And we went to the moon. Do we really have to go to Mars?
Sam Seaborn: Yes.
Mallory O'Brian: Why?
Sam Seaborn: 'Cause it's next. 'Cause we came out of the cave, and we looked over the hill and we saw fire; and we crossed the ocean and we pioneered the west, and we took to the sky. The history of man is hung on a timeline of exploration and this is what's next.
One of the most beautiful descriptions of why space exploration is important I have ever heard.
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On August 06 2012 06:12 gasmeter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 00:51 ZXRP wrote:
I would like to share a quote from an episode of the West Wing where the character Sam Seaborn was asked this very question.
Sam Seaborn: There are a lot of hungry people in the world, Mal, and none of them are hungry 'cause we went to the moon. None of them are colder and certainly none of them are dumber 'cause we went to the moon.
Mallory O'Brian: And we went to the moon. Do we really have to go to Mars?
Sam Seaborn: Yes.
Mallory O'Brian: Why?
Sam Seaborn: 'Cause it's next. 'Cause we came out of the cave, and we looked over the hill and we saw fire; and we crossed the ocean and we pioneered the west, and we took to the sky. The history of man is hung on a timeline of exploration and this is what's next. One of the most beautiful descriptions of why space exploration is important I have ever heard.
You are right, 18 billion dollars could hardly feed anyone. I still support a Mars initiative, just not right now with the recession etc.
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On August 06 2012 02:38 archonOOid wrote:
I'm excited about this mission but I think that NASA should switch over from Mars to Enceladus/Titan/Europa as those objects are more likely to harbor life than Mars. Subsurface Bactria is cool but even more complex organism might have colonized the three moons i listed.
there are necromorphs on titan, dont go there plz
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On August 06 2012 06:13 Catch]22 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 06:12 gasmeter wrote:On August 06 2012 00:51 ZXRP wrote:
I would like to share a quote from an episode of the West Wing where the character Sam Seaborn was asked this very question.
Sam Seaborn: There are a lot of hungry people in the world, Mal, and none of them are hungry 'cause we went to the moon. None of them are colder and certainly none of them are dumber 'cause we went to the moon.
Mallory O'Brian: And we went to the moon. Do we really have to go to Mars?
Sam Seaborn: Yes.
Mallory O'Brian: Why?
Sam Seaborn: 'Cause it's next. 'Cause we came out of the cave, and we looked over the hill and we saw fire; and we crossed the ocean and we pioneered the west, and we took to the sky. The history of man is hung on a timeline of exploration and this is what's next. One of the most beautiful descriptions of why space exploration is important I have ever heard. You are right, 18 billion dollars could hardly feed anyone. I still support a Mars initiative, just not right now with the recession etc.
The budget for NASA is 0.5% of the total budget of the US. If they need to make cuts, it's not there, it's somewhere else like defense for example which is 25%.
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Looking forward to the this, listening in to the pre show atm :D
Go Curiosity! :D
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On August 06 2012 06:13 Catch]22 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 06:12 gasmeter wrote:On August 06 2012 00:51 ZXRP wrote:
I would like to share a quote from an episode of the West Wing where the character Sam Seaborn was asked this very question.
Sam Seaborn: There are a lot of hungry people in the world, Mal, and none of them are hungry 'cause we went to the moon. None of them are colder and certainly none of them are dumber 'cause we went to the moon.
Mallory O'Brian: And we went to the moon. Do we really have to go to Mars?
Sam Seaborn: Yes.
Mallory O'Brian: Why?
Sam Seaborn: 'Cause it's next. 'Cause we came out of the cave, and we looked over the hill and we saw fire; and we crossed the ocean and we pioneered the west, and we took to the sky. The history of man is hung on a timeline of exploration and this is what's next. One of the most beautiful descriptions of why space exploration is important I have ever heard. You are right, 18 billion dollars could hardly feed anyone. I still support a Mars initiative, just not right now with the recession etc.
It feeds the people working for NASA, the people inventing and producing the parts for NASA, the people delivering the stuff and the people selling the resources. No matter where you put the money, it helps against the recession, so why not put it into space exploration? If the mission fails we dont lose 2b, there are no printed notes on board of the ship, its just some metal and silicium and whatnot.
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This makes me so curious!
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On August 06 2012 06:13 Catch]22 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2012 06:12 gasmeter wrote:On August 06 2012 00:51 ZXRP wrote:
I would like to share a quote from an episode of the West Wing where the character Sam Seaborn was asked this very question.
Sam Seaborn: There are a lot of hungry people in the world, Mal, and none of them are hungry 'cause we went to the moon. None of them are colder and certainly none of them are dumber 'cause we went to the moon.
Mallory O'Brian: And we went to the moon. Do we really have to go to Mars?
Sam Seaborn: Yes.
Mallory O'Brian: Why?
Sam Seaborn: 'Cause it's next. 'Cause we came out of the cave, and we looked over the hill and we saw fire; and we crossed the ocean and we pioneered the west, and we took to the sky. The history of man is hung on a timeline of exploration and this is what's next. One of the most beautiful descriptions of why space exploration is important I have ever heard. You are right, 18 billion dollars could hardly feed anyone. I still support a Mars initiative, just not right now with the recession etc.
What obligation does the US have towards feeding other people? Not that they don't, because they already donate tons of money and food towards providing nutrition to those who can't rely on their own governments.
It isn't like there are people literally starving in the US.
Demanding that the problems on earth are fixed first means abolishing the space program forever. This planet will always have something going on.
Strides forward in space technology have reaped rewards we could barely have dreamed of. When Germany launched that first V2 into space, nobody knew that it was laying the groundworks for most of the modern technology we rely on every day.
Not advancing into space is cultural and intellectual suicide.
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Am I the only one worried that when curiosity lands the Martians will rise up and get angry and destroy planet earth. I wouldn't be so worried but I have to get to sleep, I don't wanna die in my sleep. 
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On August 06 2012 07:32 Depetrify wrote:
This makes me so curious!
haha nice one :D
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I am on this like hot sauce on steak. Hyped to see first pics of the landing in just a few hours.
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On August 06 2012 07:33 zalz wrote:
It isn't like there are people literally starving in the US.
Demanding that the problems on earth are fixed first means abolishing the space program forever. This planet will always have something going on.
Strides forward in space technology have reaped rewards we could barely have dreamed of. When Germany launched that first V2 into space, nobody knew that it was laying the groundworks for most of the modern technology we rely on every day.
Not advancing into space is cultural and intellectual suicide.
1: There probably are a few starving, but the money could do alot of things. Did you hear about the time it takes for police to respond to crimes in the Detroit area for instance? Or the firefighting efforts in Oklahoma? What about healthcare? Or research into alternative fuel sources? 18 BILLION dollars is alot of money.
2: Thats not what I said, I said that right now most economies are heading in to a recession, never did I claim that this was always the case.
3: Heh, no, the V2 didnt lead to the computer, the smartphone or the internet. Stop acting like I'm trying to reduce funding for ALL science.
4: You mean humanity will stop thinking humanity is avant guarde enough?
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FUCK YEAH AMERICA!
Seriously, this is amazing can't wait for this. Time to listen to boring ramblings until stuff actually starts happening.
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5 hours until 14 minutes of deafening silence followed by cheers or tears.
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On August 06 2012 08:08 herbie wrote:Am I the only one worried that when curiosity lands the Martians will rise up and get angry and destroy planet earth. I wouldn't be so worried but I have to get to sleep, I don't wanna die in my sleep.
Which is all the more reason we should all be armed to the teeth. It's not just the King of Britain or Stalin we should be worried about ya know?
Sorry.
Anywho, I'm real excited about this mission! Gonna stay up to see if that thing touches down all right.
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I'm all for exploration of space.
I just wish they would just drop the facade though. There is life on Mars, these missions are all about making the public think we're trying really had to find it. The rover is there just to do some some geology and take some readings, drive around a bit and send us more pictures of a red planet. It's nice and all but i'm wondering when they will finally drop the act.
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Nice find. Really interested how it goes on.
On August 06 2012 09:07 Khul Sadukar wrote:
I'm all for exploration of space.
I just wish they would just drop the facade though. There is life on Mars, these missions are all about making the public think we're trying really had to find it. The rover is there just to do some some geology and take some readings, drive around a bit and send us more pictures of a red planet. It's nice and all but i'm wondering when they will finally drop the act.
And with all this facade you came to know the truth... how exactly?
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Exciting!
Fingers crossed all goes well. This is another important and much needed step towards contributing to our future.
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On August 06 2012 09:07 Khul Sadukar wrote:
I'm all for exploration of space.
I just wish they would just drop the facade though. There is life on Mars, these missions are all about making the public think we're trying really had to find it. The rover is there just to do some some geology and take some readings, drive around a bit and send us more pictures of a red planet. It's nice and all but i'm wondering when they will finally drop the act.
How did you come to that conclusion?
From everything I've read, the objective is to determine if conditions on the Martian planet had existed in the past that could have supported life.
From NASA's website:
"With its rover named Curiosity, Mars Science Laboratory mission is part of NASA's Mars Exploration Program, a long-term effort of robotic exploration of the red planet. Curiosity was designed to assess whether Mars ever had an environment able to support small life forms called microbes. In other words, its mission is to determine the planet's "habitability."
If you've heard different, blame it on the stupid media.
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