Boston Mayor vows to ban Chick-Fil-A from his city - Page 2
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polyphonyEX
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Probe1
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unichan
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On July 26 2012 06:05 Praetorial wrote: No, Boston's actually a really nice place. We have good schools too I hear. perhaps, but you will be missing cheap delicious chicken and waffle fries | ||
Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
On July 26 2012 06:08 unichan wrote: perhaps, but you will be missing cheap delicious chicken and waffle fries Let me introduce you to McDonald's, which is equally unhealthy, maybe more so, and still delicious. On July 26 2012 06:05 iGrok wrote: As a southerner (and in particular someone from Atlanta), I have to say that despite Chik Fil A's stupid stance on Gay Marriage, they have an incredible impact on their community. They provide many of their employees scholarships to go to college, and offer much better benefits than any other restaurant I have heard of. Chik Fil A isn't against Gay Marriage, the Cathy family (the owners) are. And any mayor who wants to ban a business for its owner's beliefs is asking for trouble. You just can't do that. Anyone who gets into trouble with Menino gets fired. He's not a joking around sort of guy. They don't have an impact on OUR community. McDonalds does. | ||
Sinensis
United States2513 Posts
On July 26 2012 06:08 unichan wrote: perhaps, but you will be missing cheap delicious chicken and waffle fries I think their food is pretty standard for fast food items. Their shakes and ice cream however are really good and much better than competitors. | ||
meadbert
United States681 Posts
bigot: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices Banning a company from your city because you disagree with it is bigotry. | ||
Mrvoodoochild1
United States1439 Posts
On July 26 2012 05:57 Zaqwert wrote: I wonder how everyone would feel if the mayor of Birmingham, AL said he was going to use zoning laws to force out all the Muslim and Jewish owned business. Would you be cheering that? Probably not. You shouldn't base what should and shouldn't be allowed in society based on your own personal beliefs and agenda. Clearly mayors should not have the power to ban legit businesses from their city just 'cuz they disagree with their beliefs. 50 years ago the talk would have been to drive the gays out and that would have been wrong too. This thought police crap has to end. Let people live their own lives. If you don't wanna give Chic Fil A your business because you disagree with their policies, then don't. It's not the governments job to sanction what is acceptable beliefs. It's not as simple as "disagree with their beliefs", this is flat out bigotry and should not be tolerated. | ||
Praetorial
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On July 26 2012 06:11 meadbert wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry bigot: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices Banning a company from your city because you disagree with it is bigotry. Yup. Is there a problem with having a double standard as long as it appears in our (highly liberal)judgement as correct and the majority of the city wants and supports it? | ||
Aeroplaneoverthesea
United Kingdom1977 Posts
On July 26 2012 05:57 Zaqwert wrote: I wonder how everyone would feel if the mayor of Birmingham, AL said he was going to use zoning laws to force out all the Muslim and Jewish owned business. Would you be cheering that? Probably not. You shouldn't base what should and shouldn't be allowed in society based on your own personal beliefs and agenda. Clearly mayors should not have the power to ban legit businesses from their city just 'cuz they disagree with their beliefs. 50 years ago the talk would have been to drive the gays out and that would have been wrong too. This thought police crap has to end. Let people live their own lives. If you don't wanna give Chic Fil A your business because you disagree with their policies, then don't. It's not the governments job to sanction what is acceptable beliefs. They're not been closed because they're a Christian organisation. They're been closed because they are openly been bigoted to another subsection of society. If my local curry house put posters up encouraging the destruction is Israel and suggesting Jews shouldn't be able to marry then I don't think they should be able to stay open either. | ||
bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
Boston's a pretty liberal place as far as I'm aware, so the mayor's probably getting some cheap votes by doing something silly like blocking a certain chain of restaurants from opening there. That's what politicians do, folks. | ||
norad2
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
On July 26 2012 06:16 bonifaceviii wrote: To be honest, politicians will block economic activity for any number of reasons and it's up to the courts to decide whether they're within their powers to do so. Boston's a pretty liberal place as far as I'm aware, so the mayor's probably getting some cheap votes by doing something silly like blocking a certain chain of restaurants from opening there. That's what politicians do, folks. Actually. Menino is an honest person who loves Boston, and everyone loves him. But tick him off, and you're fired. They're not cheap votes, because he's already wildly popular, and because most of us Bostonians wouldn't consider this silly. And calling us pretty liberal is a bit of an understatement. On July 26 2012 06:17 norad2 wrote: I have never been treated with anything but respect, equality, and just plain good service whenever I visit a chic-fil-a. So the owner's opinion is that they don't agree with same-sex marriage? Whatever, that's one man's opinion and in no one effects his business. In fact the opposite is true. As a business they strive to treat every customer fairly and without discrimination. I mean, the employees have to say "My Pleasure" whenever you say thank you. Can you honestly find a another fast food chain who operates in this manner? So if the Mayor of Boston doesn't want this type of business, then fine. Plus need I state the obvious? Their food is friking delicious. So is McDonalds. | ||
overt
United States9006 Posts
On July 26 2012 06:05 iGrok wrote: As a southerner (and in particular someone from Atlanta), I have to say that despite Chik Fil A's stupid stance on Gay Marriage, they have an incredible impact on their community. They provide many of their employees scholarships to go to college, and offer much better benefits than any other restaurant I have heard of. Chik Fil A isn't against Gay Marriage, the Cathy family (the owners) are. And any mayor who wants to ban a business for its owner's beliefs is asking for trouble. You just can't do that. Chick-Fil-A donates to anti-gay rights groups. So no, it's not just the owners. When your company donates to groups like Focus on the Family and Eagle Forum I think it's fair to say that your company is anti-gay. The same way that if my company donated to the NRA you'd call me pro-gun. | ||
Necro)Phagist(
Canada6518 Posts
Less freedom(Even if it mean enduring something you don't agree with) Is a bad thing. These people how ever bigoted or stupid they are, have the right to belief what they want and own a restaurant as long as they are not actually causing physical harm, which they are not. Again I'm completely against the organization and their stand points, but they have rights too. If people want to make a bigger statement boycott them. Abusing political power is a slippery slope, one that I don't think we should even for good reasons creep to the edge of. | ||
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KwarK
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On July 26 2012 06:11 meadbert wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigotry bigot: a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices Banning a company from your city because you disagree with it is bigotry. This is basically a rehashing of the old "hah, how can you claim to be tolerant if you don't tolerate intolerance!!!" argument. The answer has always been the same, "quite easily and you're not as clever as you think you are". | ||
YODA_
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On July 26 2012 06:14 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote: They're not been closed because they're a Christian organisation. They're been closed because they are openly been bigoted to another subsection of society. If my local curry house put posters up encouraging the destruction is Israel and suggesting Jews shouldn't be able to marry then I don't think they should be able to stay open either. See, here is where you are wrong. Chick Fil-A does NOT discriminate against gays. Their owner does, but he doesn't force his personal beliefs into his business policy. If his company policy was, "no gays allowed to work here", or "we don't serve gays", then I agree 100%, kick the idiots out. This is not the case, and has been stated as such by the owner himself. The Boston Mayor is a bigoted idiot himself, setting a very dangerous precedent. | ||
unichan
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Gunther
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Praetorial
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On July 26 2012 06:19 Necro)Phagist( wrote: Hmm, I'm all for gay marriage and think the fast food restaurant owners are dicks. But I am 100% against the abuse of power here, yes those people suck but let the population tell them that but boycotting their restaurant. You should not be able to ban a company just because they are against your own political agenda. Thats wrong. Less freedom(Even if it mean enduring something you don't agree with) Is a bad thing. These people how ever bigoted or stupid they are, have the right to belief what they want and own a restaurant as long as they are not actually causing physical harm, which they are not. Again I'm completely against the organization and their stand points, but they have rights too. If people want to make a bigger statement boycott them. Abusing political power is a slippery slope, one that I don't think we should even for good reasons creep to the edge of. Menino doesn't abuse power. He just hits very hard with it whatever he(and by extension Boston) don't like. And here in Boston, we prefer McDonalds so nobody cares about Chic-fil-a anyway. On July 26 2012 06:20 YODA_ wrote: See, here is where you are 100% wrong. Chick Fil-A does NOT discriminate against gays. Their owner does, but he doesn't force his personal beliefs into his business policy. If his company policy was, "no gays allowed to work here", or "we don't serve gays", then I agree 100%, kick the idiots out. This is not the case, and has been stated as such by the owner himself. The Boston Mayor is a bigoted idiot himself, setting a very dangerous precedent. Our mayors do that. And we approve(most of us, at any rate). | ||
Velocirapture
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