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On June 27 2012 00:37 theBALLS wrote:
Here goes my story.
So first as a disclaimer, I'm Chinese. If you already catch the hint, leave now or forever hold your peace.
I don't live in China, but I do have very distant relatives who do. When I visited them back in 2008, they had a very special welcoming reception for us. They threw a cute little shindig for us-- nice decor, poppy music and a wide spread. A very, very wide spread.
So my (distant) family are basically self-sustainable. They live on an enormous farm with fruit, vegetables, chicken and duck. They are considered to be a wealthy farming family with a rich history and a long lineage.
So I began helping myself to the feast there was Peking duck (awesome, you have to try), suckling pig, herbal chicken-- the works. It was amazing. Rounding it off with a glass of Chinese wine, it was one of the most memorable meals I've had to date.
So I went into their home, and I saw 3 cages, each with about 4 hamsters each. They were cute, well-fed and very loved by the family.
Thanks for reading!
At first I was thinking to myself, you don't seem to be the sort of person I would like in this thread posting,
but you redeemed yourself.
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On June 27 2012 02:05 TheToast wrote:Show nested quote +On June 26 2012 22:55 -_-Quails wrote:On June 26 2012 11:29 Thrill wrote:
OP needs to address the whole hamster cannibalism issue. Far as I can tell, they only cannibalise the dead - which makes sense to do in a nutrient poor environment like a desert. For the social species of hamster that can lead to traumatising scenes for a child owner if they don't notice a dead one quickly enough, and it should never be an issue for the anti-social ones because you should keep them apart except while mating. (The anti-social ones could potentially kill another hamster that's put in its cage then eat it but the two actions would not be linked. The killing would be to clear the personal space bubble and the eating would be because "Well there's this protein rich lump of fur in my cage and it doesn't seem to be alive, might as well eat it.") Generally herbivores, occasional insectivores and opportunistic cannibals is the best descriptor I can think of for hamster diets. Chickens are still tamed raptors who should not be trusted though. From Wikipedia: Show nested quote +Syrian Hamsters (Mesocricetus auratus) are generally solitary and may fight to the death if put together. Fight to the death then eat your enemy. What a fantastic pet O.O Cats, dogs, even guinea pigs are good pets as they have been domesticated over thousands of years to ellicite certain behavioral traits that couple well with humans. Just because something is cute doesn't make it a good pet, think tigers here. Hampsters are wild rodents. Their nature is towards their natural survival insticts, which includes being violent. They are not loyal nor do they care at all about their human captors, they'd eat your face off if they were hungry enough. Also, they're smelly, gross, creepy, and are essentially mice. Not an appropriate pet for a child IMO.
Excuse me, but if you diss the hamsters in the very nest of hamsters, you have to expect a few horror pictures in your inbox.
Anyway, allow me to retort:
Cats innately can feel nothing but loathing, despite their domestication. The same goes, in varying degrees, for plenty of other pets. Despite extremely heavy domestication (like transforming a wolf into a french poodle), there will still be traces of wilderness and instincts still remaining in animals. They're still animals.
You also single out the syrian hamster, as if it were the only one that exists. This is false; it just happens to be one of the anti-social breeds. 3/5 of the most popular hamster breeds are social creatures that can be kept in pairs. Syrians can not. This is no argument against buying a hamster.
Not all Hamsters are violent, again, you refer to the syrian as if it were the only one, and even the syrian isn't particularly violent unless provoked.
Nor are hamsters wild rodents; They have been widely domesticated since 1930~. Given, not nearly as long as dogs/cats and various other pets, but nevertheless enough to curb their instincts to a level where they can be kept as pets.
smelly
Not really. If you neglect your hamster or neglect to clean his cage; it's your fault it smells bad. The same goes for Guinea Pigs, to a much larger extent, and to dogs who have not been trained not to lose their bowels on the rug.
gross
Again, I don't see where this would come from. There is no real part of the hamsters day-to-day life (that is visible to owners, anyway) that could come across as "gross" to a large amount of people. If this were the case, and if their visible habits were considered "gross" by a significant amount of people they probably would not be such a successful species. Perhaps a specific phobia against furry rodents?
creepy
Refer to the above. Also entirely subjective.
are essentialy mice
No. A heavily modified version of a mouse, both in instincts and appearance? Yes, but this is no argument against buying a hamster.
In conclusion: Only a severely unlucky/neglectful owner would end up in a situation where they wake up and one of their syrian's is comfortably resting inside the stomach of the other.
Don't put breeds that don't mix well together; basically common sense in terms of hamster care.
Now if you'll excuse me, it would appear that the wikipedia article on hamsters needs attention from an expert on the subject.
TO THE HAM-MOBILE!
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On June 27 2012 02:20 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2012 02:18 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 27 2012 01:43 JingleHell wrote:On June 27 2012 01:41 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I used to breed hamsters for my local pet store when I was a kid. These things love to have sex. This thread is also making me wanting to buy more :l I don't even want to know how those statements relate in your mind. I only read the first post, was there something else I was suppose to read? Lol... Also, I'm saying, they made babies every month, which is why I said they love to have sex and which is why I would breed them lol... I'm talking purely about you talking about how much hamsters love sex, and the sudden urge to get more hamsters.
Oh, well, thats cause they're cute and friendly! I love hamsters, I'm just saying the only thing i really knew about them for sure was that they love sex, they stop their daily activity to have sex like every hour or so.
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On June 27 2012 03:57 ShoCkeyy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2012 02:20 JingleHell wrote:On June 27 2012 02:18 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 27 2012 01:43 JingleHell wrote:On June 27 2012 01:41 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I used to breed hamsters for my local pet store when I was a kid. These things love to have sex. This thread is also making me wanting to buy more :l I don't even want to know how those statements relate in your mind. I only read the first post, was there something else I was suppose to read? Lol... Also, I'm saying, they made babies every month, which is why I said they love to have sex and which is why I would breed them lol... I'm talking purely about you talking about how much hamsters love sex, and the sudden urge to get more hamsters. Oh, well, thats cause they're cute and friendly! I love hamsters, I'm just saying the only thing i really knew about them for sure was that they love sex, they stop their daily activity to have sex like every hour or so.
Doesn't that qualify the sex as a sufficient part of the daily routine to not consider it stopping anything?
Obviously hamsters don't get married, though.
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On June 27 2012 03:59 JingleHell wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2012 03:57 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 27 2012 02:20 JingleHell wrote:On June 27 2012 02:18 ShoCkeyy wrote:On June 27 2012 01:43 JingleHell wrote:On June 27 2012 01:41 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I used to breed hamsters for my local pet store when I was a kid. These things love to have sex. This thread is also making me wanting to buy more :l I don't even want to know how those statements relate in your mind. I only read the first post, was there something else I was suppose to read? Lol... Also, I'm saying, they made babies every month, which is why I said they love to have sex and which is why I would breed them lol... I'm talking purely about you talking about how much hamsters love sex, and the sudden urge to get more hamsters. Oh, well, thats cause they're cute and friendly! I love hamsters, I'm just saying the only thing i really knew about them for sure was that they love sex, they stop their daily activity to have sex like every hour or so. Doesn't that qualify the sex as a sufficient part of the daily routine to not consider it stopping anything? Obviously hamsters don't get married, though.
It probably is part of their daily routine, but I wouldn't know what they see as part of their daily routine. We can only say it is because that's what we see. Either way, they're still cute 
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Someone who is good at video editing should make a video like this, but with hamsters.
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How much ham can a hamster stir if a hamster could stir ham?
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you sir win the thread. I must ask though, does this mean we can have other cute animals in the abl thread still, or do we bring all the abl cute animal discussion here?
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On June 27 2012 05:03 Jaaaaasper wrote:
you sir win the thread. I must ask though, does this mean we can have other cute animals in the abl thread still, or do we bring all the abl cute animal discussion here?
Other than hamsters, some may be allowed, though exclusively within the rodent family. For example, adorable baby capybaras will be permitted to a certain extent.
As long as you never forget the true masters of the universe.
To answer the other question, a hamster can stir 57 kilograms of ham, give or take.
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Arren't we missing the king of all hamsters?!
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Look at him, he wants your eyes!
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On June 27 2012 04:58 OpticalShot wrote:
Beetlelisk <3
I'm glad you are glad ^____^
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On June 27 2012 05:23 beetlelisk wrote:I'm glad you are glad ^____^
I'm glad you're glad he's glad ^_____^
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On June 26 2012 17:45 Fueled wrote:I'm just going to leave these here. + Show Spoiler +
I can not stop listening to the 3rd video over and over again, all 4 are nice thanks for your post
On June 27 2012 05:23 Anacletus wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2012 05:23 beetlelisk wrote:On June 27 2012 04:58 OpticalShot wrote:
Beetlelisk <3 I'm glad you are glad ^____^ I'm glad you're glad he's glad ^_____^
hahahahahahah
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On June 27 2012 02:05 TheToast wrote:From Wikipedia: Show nested quote +Syrian Hamsters (Mesocricetus auratus) are generally solitary and may fight to the death if put together. Fight to the death then eat your enemy. What a fantastic pet O.O
Something is wrong with me, first thing that came to mind after reading that is that somewhere in the world people probably have gambling over hamster fights just like cock and dog fights.
Edit: Also, dont diss cats.This is the internet and we all know what animal rules it!
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Did someone invite turtle to hangout with hammies :3 ?
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I had a hamster, he was really nice, but unfortunately my Dads girlfriends daughter thought differently. She enjoyed throwing him across the room multiple times. He eventually died. His name was "little dude". T.T (She was like 7)
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On June 27 2012 05:57 NickolasSC wrote:
I had a hamster, he was really nice, but unfortunately my Dads girlfriends daughter thought differently. She enjoyed throwing him across the room multiple times. He eventually died. His name was "little dude". T.T (She was like 7)
What in the fuck.
Remind me never to have kids. Just get more hamsters. They don't do this kind of stuff.
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left for work and this thread was all cute stories of cute hamsters come back and theres storys of hamsters killing and eating other hamsters
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