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RavenLoud
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1100 Posts
June 21 2012 00:25 GMT
#41
I don't know what is there to discuss.

However, reading the article seems to have some interesting stats. Some are predictable (i.e. 2x more Asian women have an interracial marriage compared to Asian men), others I would have never known (Korean-Americans more vocal about their racial treatment, feels less integrated).

Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10363 Posts
June 21 2012 00:33 GMT
#42
Hurray! keep coming my asian brethren :D
Mid-master streaming MECH ONLY + commentary www.twitch.tv/yoshikirishima +++ "If all-in fails, all-in again."
NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
June 21 2012 00:33 GMT
#43
On June 21 2012 08:18 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2012 08:15 smarty pants wrote:
On June 21 2012 07:59 farvacola wrote:

What do you mean who really cares? I can't believe this would be a surprise to you, but the racial make-up and demographic representation of incoming/recent immigrants is of immense importance in the US, be it politically, economically, or socially. The burgeoning Asian-American population is already having an impact on higher ed and the cultural sensibilities of admissions boards for colleges. Common ports of entry for Asian immigrants will see increased population growth, both short and long term, so there will certainly be regional and local effects, as there already have been. The interpretations of what this new fact means are varied and difficult to pin down, but I assure you people care.


Congrats, you missed his point completely.

He says its irrelevant what race it is. You're just being a good democrat and making it a race issue. This would be good news for anyone.

We can pretend all people and cultures are the same, or we can grow up and learn to toe the line between discussing cultural differences and racism. A thousand Mexicans and a thousand Koreans walk into a bar.......and everyone orders the same drink.


What in the fuck are you talking about -.-
FoTG fighting!
W2
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1177 Posts
June 21 2012 00:34 GMT
#44
I wish this were the case in LA...
Hi
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
June 21 2012 00:50 GMT
#45
Almost pointless to discuss immigration these days, especially with respect to hispanics. There are enough hispanics in the US now that immigration is nothing, it's a tiny drop in the bucket, hardly matters. What matters now is birth rates, if you want to talk about future demographics.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
June 21 2012 01:13 GMT
#46
On June 21 2012 09:08 ecstatica wrote:
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On June 21 2012 08:56 Wuster wrote:
On June 21 2012 08:50 dAPhREAk wrote:
On June 21 2012 08:36 epik640x wrote:
On June 21 2012 08:03 dAPhREAk wrote:
On June 21 2012 08:00 epik640x wrote:
Note that this includes India.

Article is misleading because Indians are genetically Caucasian and not what Americans think when they hear "Asian".

what exactly do you mean by "genetically Caucasian?"


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Neighbor-joining_Tree-2.png


that is very interesting. wouldnt consider english so close to indian/iranian.


I think it's more a case of 'Caucasian' being more diverse genetically than the other 3 groups. I wonder how distinct the entire middle east / Indian part of the Caucasian grouping is from the rest; like would geneticists laugh at the notion of considering middle east / Indian as a 5th racial group?

Edit: Then again the Iran / India and Europe branched out of Central Asia according to the Indo-Aryan migration theory (linky: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Indo-European_isoglosses.png)


I wouldn't jump to conclusions based off this image, at best you can say we don't know, you can also say that it's false. Indian part is probably true in relation to this discussion, assuming we're talking biology, not geography.


I agree, wikipedia in fact lists Indians as belonging to all 4 racial groups, depending on where they originate from (with a lot of intermarrying between the different regions). So it's hardly cut and dry even if you take the image as gospel.

But I have learned a lot about the Indo-Aryan migration (which is still a theory after all, the other one benig Aryans were indigenous to India not migrants from Central Asia) and Indo-European language divergences to know that Indians share quite a lot more with Europeans than most people would think.
Silentness
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2821 Posts
June 21 2012 01:30 GMT
#47
On June 21 2012 08:48 Zhou wrote:
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On June 21 2012 08:00 epik640x wrote:
Note that this includes India.

Article is misleading because Indians are genetically Caucasian and not what Americans think when they hear "Asian".


This is true. Most immigrants now are actually from India if they could afford it. There would be little reason for the majority them to stay in their country in its current state. "Asians" that Americans usually know of such as Chinese, Korean, Japanese usually now only send their children here to study, but not to stay. The way I see it, most people who are immigrants coming here are no longer the poor who seek the once called "American Dream", but now a wealthy man's desire. It's a shame though, that a lot of poorer immigrants have little chance of becoming something more here now...


+1 my Korean wife for immigration.

She didn't want to come to the US, but my job moved from South Korea to the US. So she followed me over to the US. She prefers South Korea, but she's trying to make it work.

lol she definitely did not come here for the "American Dream" both of her parents are employed and her brother is still in university. Korea is pretty high tech. They have everything that they would need in a lifetime. I'm dumbfounded whenever I go on a train and everyone has smartphones, even the "Ajumas" (older women).

The "American Dream" died a long time ago... if it ever existed. Get an education, know the right people, get a good paying job, invest your money wisely, and profit in retirement. GG
GL HF... YOLO..lololollol.
acgFork
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada397 Posts
June 21 2012 01:41 GMT
#48
Yay more asian girls!
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andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
June 21 2012 19:30 GMT
#49
Meh, these threads always end up attracting clueless posters shouting dogmatic political slogans and racial stereotypes.

A nice companion piece to this is the Pew research on Hispanics that was released a month or so ago. They found out that the Hispanic immigration ratio has reserved. More are going back to their home countries than coming to the US. Their population has reached a tipping point where there are no more of the traditionally Hispanic jobs for them to fill.

As an aside, geography plays a huge part in immigration. Immigrants are pretty much self-selecting. In Western Europe, Arab immigrants occupy the niches that Hispanics occupy in the US. In contrast, Arab Americans are pretty well educated. Having to cross oceans does that.
TerranosaurusWrecks
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada187 Posts
June 21 2012 21:15 GMT
#50
the inv-Asian has begun

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