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Hey guys! We'll be closing this thread shortly, but we will make an American politics megathread where we can continue the discussions in here.

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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 04 2012 02:08 GMT
#12961
Apparently the American people don't have enough time for Romney's explanation of his plan, so skip it because of it's length whatever it is.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
kmillz
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1548 Posts
October 04 2012 02:08 GMT
#12962
I gotta say the Bush-Gore debate was way more exciting and interesting...lol
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
October 04 2012 02:08 GMT
#12963
On October 04 2012 11:07 Sermokala wrote:
obamas stutters pause's and uh's do probably add up to the difference between them. its pretty sloppy sounding from obama and romney isn't doing nearly as much.


It was REALLY bad at the start but obama has really toned it down
No Artosis, you are robin
ey215
Profile Joined June 2010
United States546 Posts
October 04 2012 02:08 GMT
#12964
On October 04 2012 11:07 sc2superfan101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 11:03 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Here comes the obstructionism argument I suspect.

Also, ACA was done on a bipartisan basis. It was indeed originally a Republican idea pitched by Gingrich et al to counter Clinton.

well, to be honest, Republicans dropped it soon after. you can't really claim it as a republican idea anymore, just like you can't say voting against the civil rights acts are "democrat" ideas. policy positions do change over time you know.


That and while the claims of them originally being Republican ideas are true the ACA was in no way actually done in a bipartisan basis.
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
October 04 2012 02:08 GMT
#12965
So...what was Romney's plan for healthcare?
NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
October 04 2012 02:08 GMT
#12966
Romney "Yell yell yell" and hopes Dauntx can spread his view across the land.
FoTG fighting!
MWY
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany284 Posts
October 04 2012 02:09 GMT
#12967
On October 04 2012 11:02 Deathmanbob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 11:00 MWY wrote:
Why is Romney saying that Obamas points and numbers about his plans are completely wrong every single time?

Can't be true that Obama is this misinformed right?


Romney is lying, the best line from obama so far has been about this "Romneys big bold plan is nevermind"


So Romney really wants to cut taxes and reduce deficit? Or he doesnt want to cut taxes because it would add to the deficit.
Pretty different statements..

Anyways, Romney looks pretty good in this discussion.. I always fear Obama will run out of words when he's talking..
Ventris
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany1226 Posts
October 04 2012 02:09 GMT
#12968
On October 04 2012 11:08 acker wrote:
So...what was Romney's plan for healthcare?

I don't have a clue
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
October 04 2012 02:09 GMT
#12969
On October 04 2012 11:08 acker wrote:
So...what was Romney's plan for healthcare?

Yeah, this. All he said that his plan has similar facets as the current law.
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11602 Posts
October 04 2012 02:10 GMT
#12970
On October 04 2012 11:08 TheTenthDoc wrote:
I figured out Romney's strategy going in here. By being so vague on his current plans, he can use the debates to pitch them and Obama can have zero ability to answer them with preparation.

If that's the case, Obama should call him on that. But Obama is the Professor not the Bulldog so I doubt that'll happen.
Moderator5000 of our finest Taliban warriors have been released! Rise up my brothers. Mashalla! al-Donald ibn-Frederick al-Masih allows it.
Birdfood
Profile Joined May 2012
United States33 Posts
October 04 2012 02:10 GMT
#12971
On October 04 2012 11:07 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 11:06 Birdfood wrote:
Obama has more speaking time because he is talking in a calm, collected, and controlled manner... While Romney is like spazzing shit out... LOL

Romney is in a more desperate position, and it shows.

For sure...
roach-immortal is pretty good vs stalkers -Idra
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 02:10:58
October 04 2012 02:10 GMT
#12972
On October 04 2012 11:08 acker wrote:
So...what was Romney's plan for healthcare?


all the of the good parts of Obamacare (that he won't acknowledge exist)


On October 04 2012 11:10 Falling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 11:08 TheTenthDoc wrote:
I figured out Romney's strategy going in here. By being so vague on his current plans, he can use the debates to pitch them and Obama can have zero ability to answer them with preparation.

If that's the case, Obama should call him on that. But Obama is the Professor not the Bulldog so I doubt that'll happen.


Apparently he's going full Bulldog!
NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 02:11:17
October 04 2012 02:10 GMT
#12973
On October 04 2012 11:09 MWY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2012 11:02 Deathmanbob wrote:
On October 04 2012 11:00 MWY wrote:
Why is Romney saying that Obamas points and numbers about his plans are completely wrong every single time?

Can't be true that Obama is this misinformed right?


Romney is lying, the best line from obama so far has been about this "Romneys big bold plan is nevermind"


So Romney really wants to cut taxes and reduce deficit? Or he doesnt want to cut taxes because it would add to the deficit.
Pretty different statements..

Anyways, Romney looks pretty good in this discussion.. I always fear Obama will run out of words when he's talking..


How is Romney looking pretty good? He's like a child arguing.

"I have to respond to that!"

Holy shit, shut the fuck up.
FoTG fighting!
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 02:11:09
October 04 2012 02:10 GMT
#12974
Obama's finally pointing out the vagueness.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
October 04 2012 02:11 GMT
#12975
"Are the plans too good?"

LOL
Schvitzer
Profile Joined October 2012
United States15 Posts
October 04 2012 02:11 GMT
#12976
On October 04 2012 11:05 Silidons wrote:
i'm not even going to vote, but i can definitely tell that when obama speaks, he gets to the center of the issue. romney simply skips around the middle, if you know what i mean.


I bet you are not even watching this.
It is all about you, isn't it?
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
October 04 2012 02:11 GMT
#12977
jim needs to lay down the law....
:)
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-04 02:12:00
October 04 2012 02:11 GMT
#12978
romney is doing everything he needs to win.

from the beginning his goal was to eliminate need for specifics by allaying fears during his intro.
he can now focus on the negatives - well constructed, practiced excerpts that exploit the inability of layman to fully analyze what he is avoiding

if only the american public was educated well...

sigh
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 04 2012 02:11 GMT
#12979
Now that the healthcare debate has shifted away from the Medicare issue and is focusing on the guts of Obamacare vs Romneycare, Obama has the advantage.

7-2, Romney.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 04 2012 02:11 GMT
#12980
not a big fan of obamacare, although he should be saying vouchers way more here. focus on the keywords old people don't have that long of an attention span.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
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