EPTShooting of Trayvon Martin - Page 38
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Sermokala
United States14215 Posts
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syn0r
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On April 12 2012 07:32 Disarray wrote: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/george-zimmerman-to-be-charged-in-trayvon-martin-shooting-law-enforcement-official-says/2012/04/11/gIQAHJ5oAT_print.html aaannndd Zimmerman fled the country. Can't say I blame him, even if he possibly got a fair trial, and was found not guilty and released he would be hounded by a lynchmob, and not be able to have any sort of normal life. Where does it say in that article that he fled the country? In the release quoted by daphreak, it says he is in custody. Anyone know if he is actually in police custody right now? I'm interested in seeing how Zimmerman is actually going to get a fair trial right now. There is so much politics, race, sensationalization, and widespread media coverage going on that it's hard for me to even believe he would get a fair trial without a jury, relying on the judge to determine his guilt. Any law students that can weigh in on how they think the case is going to go? How is this not going to end up in a mistrial? | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On April 12 2012 07:32 Disarray wrote: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/george-zimmerman-to-be-charged-in-trayvon-martin-shooting-law-enforcement-official-says/2012/04/11/gIQAHJ5oAT_print.html aaannndd Zimmerman fled the country. Can't say I blame him, even if he possibly got a fair trial, and was found not guilty and released he would be hounded by a lynchmob, and not be able to have any sort of normal life. zimmerman is in custody. dont spread bullshit. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On April 12 2012 07:28 Zato-1 wrote: Do we know whether there'll be a jury in the trial yet? As many others have said before me, I find it extremely hard that you could find an unbiased jury for this case. depends on whether zimmerman waives his right to a jury. he has a constitutional right to a jury in this case. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14215 Posts
On April 12 2012 07:32 Disarray wrote: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/george-zimmerman-to-be-charged-in-trayvon-martin-shooting-law-enforcement-official-says/2012/04/11/gIQAHJ5oAT_print.html aaannndd Zimmerman fled the country. Can't say I blame him, even if he possibly got a fair trial, and was found not guilty and released he would be hounded by a lynchmob, and not be able to have any sort of normal life. http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/11/justice/florida-teen-shooting/index.html cnn has him in the custody of the Florida department of law enforcement. Sad that hes getting prosecuted with someone that's known for prosecuting without regard for facts. Fairly ironic for the case itself. | ||
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BlackWhole
United States40 Posts
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LaSt)ChAnCe
United States2179 Posts
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GnarlyArbitrage
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Romance_us
Seychelles1806 Posts
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IamaGrapeMan
Canada165 Posts
couldn't get it working on google chrome for some reason but it works fine in firefox | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On April 12 2012 07:41 IamaGrapeMan wrote: thanks for the stream link couldn't get it working on google chrome for some reason but it works fine in firefox i turned off the link after zimmerman's former attorney came on and said that negligence was enough for manslaughter. probably for the best that he withdrew as zimmerman's attorney. | ||
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Hawke5811
United States183 Posts
I've read that Zimmerman had told the police something along the lines of that he had eventually given up chase of Martin, and that he was then attacked by Martin while he was walking back to his car? If this was a reported statement taken by the police, wouldn't it beg to question the logic of this? If you are chasing someone, it implies that the person you're chasing is fleeing or running away from you. Why then would Martin turn and give chase to Zimmerman? Especially when he was the one feeling threatened... this just sounds implausible (this is my opinion, being that Martin was the one originally approached and had no idea who Zimmerman was) Am I missing something here? | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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AllHailTheDead
United States418 Posts
a year or two? I think we should get a poll going on that | ||
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LaSt)ChAnCe
United States2179 Posts
On April 12 2012 07:45 AllHailTheDead wrote: man....I wonder how long this trial is going to take a year or two? I think we should get a poll going on that Poll: How long is this trial going to last? Or two? (18) A year (4) 22 total votes Your vote: How long is this trial going to last? | ||
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Sermokala
United States14215 Posts
On April 12 2012 07:45 Hawke5811 wrote: Perhaps someone can help clarify something for me... I've read that Zimmerman had told the police something along the lines of that he had eventually given up chase of Martin, and that he was then attacked by Martin while he was walking back to his car? If this was a reported statement taken by the police, wouldn't it beg to question the logic of this? If you are chasing someone, it implies that the person you're chasing is fleeing or running away from you. Why then would Martin turn and give chase to Zimmerman? Especially when he was the one feeling threatened... this just sounds implausible (this is my opinion, being that Martin was the one originally approached and had no idea who Zimmerman was) Am I missing something here? (at least from what I've peiced togeather so far feel free to correct me on what happened) Zimmerman got out of his car to ask trayvon what he was doing in the rain all alone around where he lived as he was the crime watch captian. trayvon asked zimmerman why he was following him. from this point on to the time that the police showed up we arn't sure on what happened but zimmerman had a large injury to his head and grass stains on the back of it and trayvon died. What probably happened was that zimmerman was a bit raciest and assumed that travyon was up to no good and he got insulted to the point of beating zimmerman up not knowing he had a gun. Zimmerman being beaten up and getting his head bounced off the ground took out his gun and shot trayvon. the stand your ground law doesn't apply in this case Btw. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
zimmerman has a constitutional right to a speedy trial. a year is presumptively deemed unconstitutional. so, it depends on when he wants to try the case. | ||
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TheGeneralTheoryOf
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Kaitlin
United States2958 Posts
On April 12 2012 07:52 dAPhREAk wrote: zimmerman has a constitutional right to a speedy trial. a year is presumptively deemed unconstitutional. so, it depends on when he wants to try the case. Doesn't the speedy trial require a trial within 90 days of charging ? I'm pretty sure it's a set timeframe, and nearly always ends up being waived by the defendant so they can prepare the defense. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On April 12 2012 08:06 Kaitlin wrote: Doesn't the speedy trial require a trial within 90 days of charging ? I'm pretty sure it's a set timeframe, and nearly always ends up being waived by the defendant so they can prepare the defense. as with most constitutional rights, you can definitely waive it. and zimmerman would be intelligent to do so (time heals all wounds? or at least most people will forget about it after six months or so, and the prejudice will be lessened). i am not sure of the 90 day requirement; it is likely a local procedural rule, and i am not familiar with Florida rules specifically. | ||
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