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This is a sensitive and complex issue, please do not make comments without first reading the facts, which are cataloged in the OP.

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ConGee
Profile Joined May 2012
318 Posts
July 09 2013 15:38 GMT
#6181
On July 10 2013 00:37 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 00:35 Dosey wrote:
On July 10 2013 00:33 BigFan wrote:
On July 10 2013 00:32 Dosey wrote:
On July 10 2013 00:30 BigFan wrote:
wow that's an interesting development if what this witness said is true. It can prove Zimmerman's case well. I never realized that you can tell that from a gun wound :O

What happened? Just turned it on 3 seconds ago.


he testified that the gun wound spread and density shows that Trayvon was alive when shot(it's red) and the spread and density indicated that the muzzle of the gun was on the shirt and not directly on the skin. That kinda indicates that Trayvon is on top since his shirt would be on his skin if he was on the bottom. He also said that the gun would be around 4-6 inches or so away from the skin on the shirt and that he tested up to 18 inches for accuracy purposes.

Didn't we already know this via the coroners report ages ago?

This is further proof that Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman when he shot him. If what you say is true, the defense would not feel the need to hammer this point away to prove that Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman so I can't say if it was already known ages ago.


Probably moreso to reinforce that fact. With how much testimony the jury has heard, it's not a bad idea to hammer home the idea that Trayvon was definitely on top of Zimmerman.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 09 2013 15:41 GMT
#6182
On July 10 2013 00:38 ConGee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 00:37 BigFan wrote:
On July 10 2013 00:35 Dosey wrote:
On July 10 2013 00:33 BigFan wrote:
On July 10 2013 00:32 Dosey wrote:
On July 10 2013 00:30 BigFan wrote:
wow that's an interesting development if what this witness said is true. It can prove Zimmerman's case well. I never realized that you can tell that from a gun wound :O

What happened? Just turned it on 3 seconds ago.


he testified that the gun wound spread and density shows that Trayvon was alive when shot(it's red) and the spread and density indicated that the muzzle of the gun was on the shirt and not directly on the skin. That kinda indicates that Trayvon is on top since his shirt would be on his skin if he was on the bottom. He also said that the gun would be around 4-6 inches or so away from the skin on the shirt and that he tested up to 18 inches for accuracy purposes.

Didn't we already know this via the coroners report ages ago?

This is further proof that Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman when he shot him. If what you say is true, the defense would not feel the need to hammer this point away to prove that Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman so I can't say if it was already known ages ago.


Probably moreso to reinforce that fact. With how much testimony the jury has heard, it's not a bad idea to hammer home the idea that Trayvon was definitely on top of Zimmerman.

ya that's what I meant. If it was also known that Trayvon was on top, this just hammers it away. Defense used a similar strategy yesterday to hammer another point away(forgot about what though lol)
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
July 09 2013 15:41 GMT
#6183
also this is important because it shows the trajectory of the bullet isn't straight ahead but more to the side. this is more believable if you were pinned on the bottom you'd likely draw the gun and wouldn't get a direct straight shot.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 09 2013 15:51 GMT
#6184
hmm 1-3 minutes to die compared to that 4-10 min where I think prosecutor was saying that or something. Wonder how accurate that is
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
July 09 2013 15:58 GMT
#6185
You can't bruise a dead body? Tell that to Det. James McNulty.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 09 2013 16:01 GMT
#6186
On July 10 2013 00:58 Dosey wrote:
You can't bruise a dead body? Tell that to Det. James McNulty.

yep, it's true. No blood pressure if you're dead. James McNulty is a TV character I take it?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
July 09 2013 16:08 GMT
#6187
On July 10 2013 01:01 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 00:58 Dosey wrote:
You can't bruise a dead body? Tell that to Det. James McNulty.

yep, it's true. No blood pressure if you're dead. James McNulty is a TV character I take it?

lol yes
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 16:14:44
July 09 2013 16:10 GMT
#6188
On July 10 2013 01:08 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 01:01 BigFan wrote:
On July 10 2013 00:58 Dosey wrote:
You can't bruise a dead body? Tell that to Det. James McNulty.

yep, it's true. No blood pressure if you're dead. James McNulty is a TV character I take it?

lol yes

lol I don't watch my TV anymore so

edit: man, this guy is worth his weight in gold so far. He's giving the defense a lot of good stuff.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 17:05:27
July 09 2013 16:14 GMT
#6189
On July 10 2013 00:58 Dosey wrote:
You can't bruise a dead body? Tell that to Det. James McNulty.

this was the only season of the wire that sucked. the show was so perfect and then they did the whole 'fake killer' shenanigans.


><!

/endrant.



sorry, incredibly off topic.


edit; this witness forensic pathologist said in his expert testimony he sees evidence of AT LEAST 6 strikes on Zimmermans face/head. Goes on to say there could be more because of variation in the human body to 'show' wounds/trauma.

This is quite the contrary to the prosecutions witness that said all wounds are 'consistent' with 1 blow. OF course, she went on to say the evidence is 'consistent' with 2, 3, 4, 5, 10 blows as well. lols.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
July 09 2013 17:05 GMT
#6190
On July 10 2013 00:58 Dosey wrote:
You can't bruise a dead body? Tell that to Det. James McNulty.

nice reference. =) Omar walking~!
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 09 2013 17:25 GMT
#6191
When are they coming back ?
Knighthawkbro
Profile Joined August 2011
United States183 Posts
July 09 2013 17:27 GMT
#6192
On July 10 2013 02:25 Kaitlin wrote:
When are they coming back ?


in the next 5 minutes
"I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately." -George Carlin
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
July 09 2013 17:30 GMT
#6193
On July 10 2013 02:25 Kaitlin wrote:
When are they coming back ?

Recess until 1:30 EST. So should be coming back any minute.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 17:43:21
July 09 2013 17:42 GMT
#6194
oh shit, zimmerman was armed with a .... flashlight~! dun dun dun.

edit: expert - "i dont consider that a dangerous weapon, laugh laugh"
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 09 2013 17:43 GMT
#6195
what's with this flashlight business? anyone know where he's going with it?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Felnarion
Profile Joined December 2011
442 Posts
July 09 2013 17:43 GMT
#6196
Armed with a flashlight.

Armed with a bag of skittles. Let's just throw the word armed around. The can of tea Trayvon had is probably more dangerous than that wimpy flashlight.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 09 2013 17:45 GMT
#6197
On July 10 2013 02:43 Felnarion wrote:
Armed with a flashlight.

Armed with a bag of skittles. Let's just throw the word armed around. The can of tea Trayvon had is probably more dangerous than that wimpy flashlight.

Unless its one of those massive maglights made of metal and filled with 8 D-batteries, flashlights are only dangerous to shadows.
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Felnarion
Profile Joined December 2011
442 Posts
July 09 2013 17:46 GMT
#6198
On July 10 2013 02:45 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 02:43 Felnarion wrote:
Armed with a flashlight.

Armed with a bag of skittles. Let's just throw the word armed around. The can of tea Trayvon had is probably more dangerous than that wimpy flashlight.

Unless its one of those massive maglights made of metal and filled with 8 D-batteries, flashlights are only dangerous to shadows.


It's not. The expert was like "Haha, I expected it to be one of those big steel ones. No, you might give someone a bruise, but that's not a dangerous weapon" (paraphrasing mostly)
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 17:47:43
July 09 2013 17:47 GMT
#6199
$400/hr to testify. You heard it here first folks! what's the avg cost for expert testimony?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Knighthawkbro
Profile Joined August 2011
United States183 Posts
July 09 2013 17:47 GMT
#6200
Bernie is such a tool, his sound effects are killing me
"I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately." -George Carlin
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