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This is a sensitive and complex issue, please do not make comments without first reading the facts, which are cataloged in the OP.

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FatChicksUnited
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada214 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 03:46:10
July 09 2013 03:42 GMT
#6161
On July 09 2013 12:15 dAPhREAk wrote:
im surprised they havent played the politician angle (i.e., outside influences affected the decision to prosecute). it makes the prosecution look bad. on the other hand, you would have to call in politicians as witnesses, and we already have enough liars taking the stand. ;-)

I get the impression that they simply can't, that the judge has disallowed it already in some pre-trial motion. Did you notice how MOM, questioning Bill, the former police chief, was careful to specify that the area of questioning was limited only to the process as it happened after the decision was made to play the tapes for the Martins? He was pretty specific in his wording and seemed to painstakingly avoid any mention of politics or undue pressure to prosecute.
Fat chicks need love too.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 09 2013 03:49 GMT
#6162
On July 09 2013 12:42 FatChicksUnited wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 12:15 dAPhREAk wrote:
im surprised they havent played the politician angle (i.e., outside influences affected the decision to prosecute). it makes the prosecution look bad. on the other hand, you would have to call in politicians as witnesses, and we already have enough liars taking the stand. ;-)

I get the impression that they simply can't, that the judge has disallowed it already in some pre-trial motion. Did you notice how MOM, questioning Bill, the former police chief, was careful to specify that the area of questioning was limited only to the process as it happened after the decision was made to play the tapes for the Martins? He was pretty specific in his wording and seemed to painstakingly avoid any mention of politics or undue pressure to prosecute.

Yeah, I'm sure that the judge made some pre-trial rulings on the issue. Diving into political motivations for the prosecution is completely irrelevant and should be excluded. At best, all that the defense can do is get some facts admitted here and there for other purposes that also tend to show that this is a politically motivated prosecution.
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 09 2013 04:18 GMT
#6163
MOM just said in an interview with Piers Morgan that he's bringing in Trayvon's cell phone stuff. He had previously said he was hoping to not have to use that stuff, but there wasn't any uncertainty in his statement tonight. He must be confident in its admissibility, although judging by that case that let the toxicology in, it seems it might be admissible as well. According to the case, in self-defense cases, nearly everything about the "victim" is admissible, apparently. Looking forward to the cell phone stuff.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11111 Posts
July 09 2013 04:38 GMT
#6164
Interesting Piers Morgan had three experts on. All three were edging towards acquittal "by the law".
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FatChicksUnited
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada214 Posts
July 09 2013 09:07 GMT
#6165
On July 09 2013 13:18 Kaitlin wrote:
MOM just said in an interview with Piers Morgan that he's bringing in Trayvon's cell phone stuff. He had previously said he was hoping to not have to use that stuff, but there wasn't any uncertainty in his statement tonight. He must be confident in its admissibility, although judging by that case that let the toxicology in, it seems it might be admissible as well. According to the case, in self-defense cases, nearly everything about the "victim" is admissible, apparently. Looking forward to the cell phone stuff.

Of course he knows better than I do, but I think he's overly optimistic. The judge seemed to barely allow him admission of the tox report and his expert witness to testify as to the effects of that (seemingly miniscule) level of THC in Trayvon's blood. It's a big jump from there to allowing the photos and text messages alleged to have been on the phone (Trayvon with guns, Trayvon calling himself a "gangsta", Trayvon discussing his truancy...[CNN]).

They might have a better chance of getting Trayvon's fighting history in, now that the prosecution has gone into Zimmerman's adventures at the MMA gym.
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sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
July 09 2013 13:05 GMT
#6166
is this Schumacher?
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 09 2013 13:34 GMT
#6167
how is the court allowing this animation into the case?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
July 09 2013 13:41 GMT
#6168
On July 09 2013 22:34 BigFan wrote:
how is the court allowing this animation into the case?

I believe this is the hearing to decide whether or not it comes in.
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 13:56:50
July 09 2013 13:45 GMT
#6169
On July 09 2013 22:41 sc2superfan101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2013 22:34 BigFan wrote:
how is the court allowing this animation into the case?

I believe this is the hearing to decide whether or not it comes in.

oh, that's quite possible.

Edit: lol, that guy's a trooper! XD
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
July 09 2013 13:56 GMT
#6170
I have learned so much about law reading this thread >.<

If what the prosecutor has to do is disprove self defence...well... I am not a betting man but it doesn't look like that is going to happen.
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 09 2013 14:12 GMT
#6171
did they show the animation? did I miss it?
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
July 09 2013 14:23 GMT
#6172
Does anyone know how long this recess is? I was smoking when they left
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 15:06:26
July 09 2013 15:05 GMT
#6173
wrong thread
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 15:30:50
July 09 2013 15:30 GMT
#6174
wow that's an interesting development if what this witness said is true. It can prove Zimmerman's case well. I never realized that you can tell that from a gun wound :O
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
July 09 2013 15:30 GMT
#6175
this is huge for the defense. almost proves that Martin was on top at the time of the shooting.
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 09 2013 15:31 GMT
#6176
On July 10 2013 00:30 sc2superfan101 wrote:
this is huge for the defense. almost proves that Martin was on top at the time of the shooting.

ya, my thoughts exact. This is exactly what the defense is looking for. I wonder how the prosecutor will argue this hmm
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
July 09 2013 15:32 GMT
#6177
On July 10 2013 00:30 BigFan wrote:
wow that's an interesting development if what this witness said is true. It can prove Zimmerman's case well. I never realized that you can tell that from a gun wound :O

What happened? Just turned it on 3 seconds ago.

BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-09 15:34:44
July 09 2013 15:33 GMT
#6178
On July 10 2013 00:32 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 00:30 BigFan wrote:
wow that's an interesting development if what this witness said is true. It can prove Zimmerman's case well. I never realized that you can tell that from a gun wound :O

What happened? Just turned it on 3 seconds ago.


he testified that the gun wound spread and density shows that Trayvon was alive when shot(it's red) and the spread and density indicated that the muzzle of the gun was on the shirt and not directly on the skin. That kinda indicates that Trayvon is on top since his shirt would be on his skin if he was on the bottom. He also said that the gun would be around 4-6 inches or so away from the skin on the shirt and that he tested up to 18 inches for accuracy purposes.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
July 09 2013 15:35 GMT
#6179
On July 10 2013 00:33 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 00:32 Dosey wrote:
On July 10 2013 00:30 BigFan wrote:
wow that's an interesting development if what this witness said is true. It can prove Zimmerman's case well. I never realized that you can tell that from a gun wound :O

What happened? Just turned it on 3 seconds ago.


he testified that the gun wound spread and density shows that Trayvon was alive when shot(it's red) and the spread and density indicated that the muzzle of the gun was on the shirt and not directly on the skin. That kinda indicates that Trayvon is on top since his shirt would be on his skin if he was on the bottom. He also said that the gun would be around 4-6 inches or so away from the skin on the shirt and that he tested up to 18 inches for accuracy purposes.

Didn't we already know this via the coroners report ages ago?
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 09 2013 15:37 GMT
#6180
On July 10 2013 00:35 Dosey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2013 00:33 BigFan wrote:
On July 10 2013 00:32 Dosey wrote:
On July 10 2013 00:30 BigFan wrote:
wow that's an interesting development if what this witness said is true. It can prove Zimmerman's case well. I never realized that you can tell that from a gun wound :O

What happened? Just turned it on 3 seconds ago.


he testified that the gun wound spread and density shows that Trayvon was alive when shot(it's red) and the spread and density indicated that the muzzle of the gun was on the shirt and not directly on the skin. That kinda indicates that Trayvon is on top since his shirt would be on his skin if he was on the bottom. He also said that the gun would be around 4-6 inches or so away from the skin on the shirt and that he tested up to 18 inches for accuracy purposes.

Didn't we already know this via the coroners report ages ago?

This is further proof that Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman when he shot him. If what you say is true, the defense would not feel the need to hammer this point away to prove that Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman so I can't say if it was already known ages ago.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
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