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Although this thread does not function under the same strict guidelines as the USPMT, it is still a general practice on TL to provide a source with an explanation on why it is relevant and what purpose it adds to the discussion. Failure to do so will result in a mod action.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8690 Posts
July 30 2019 02:52 GMT
#17061
were the victims of ethnic background? why would a white supremacist shoot white people
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42959 Posts
July 30 2019 02:57 GMT
#17062
On July 30 2019 11:52 evilfatsh1t wrote:
were the victims of ethnic background? why would a white supremacist shoot white people

The Nazis mostly persecuted white people. It’s not the most rational of ideologies.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 30 2019 04:42 GMT
#17063
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Kreuger
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden757 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-03 18:13:20
August 03 2019 18:07 GMT
#17064
Active situation in El Paso, Texas

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/03/us/el-paso-shooting/index.html

#Update: Just in - Situation at the shooting!

- At least 18 people shot.
- One person believed dead.
- Shooter still at large.
- Happened at a #Walmart in in the Cielo Vista Mall in El Paso, #Texas.
- Massive police and rescue crew responds.
- Active crime scene avoid the area.




Scene is still Active. We have multi reports of multiple shooters. Please avoid area police conducting search of a very large area. Media staging will be given when area is secure.

Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-04 01:06:27
August 04 2019 00:58 GMT
#17065
On July 30 2019 11:52 evilfatsh1t wrote:
were the victims of ethnic background? why would a white supremacist shoot white people

white supremacists hate white people that don't hate non-white people more than white supremacists hate non-white people. white supremacists see people that are non white supremacists as sell-outs that embrace cultural Marxism and a threat from the 'inside.' they would rather have all whites subscribe to their agenda so they can tell friend from foe before some one opens their mouth. very caveman and non-intuitively tribal
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
August 04 2019 01:32 GMT
#17066
On August 04 2019 03:07 Kreuger wrote:
Active situation in El Paso, Texas

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/03/us/el-paso-shooting/index.html

#Update: Just in - Situation at the shooting!

- At least 18 people shot.
- One person believed dead.
- Shooter still at large.
- Happened at a #Walmart in in the Cielo Vista Mall in El Paso, #Texas.
- Massive police and rescue crew responds.
- Active crime scene avoid the area.

https://twitter.com/sotiridi/status/1157714333935255552


Scene is still Active. We have multi reports of multiple shooters. Please avoid area police conducting search of a very large area. Media staging will be given when area is secure.

https://twitter.com/EPPOLICE/status/1157715543656423424

that he was caught alive is interesting. but it means some details will have to be withheld as part of due process
get rich or die mining
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8998 Posts
August 04 2019 01:41 GMT
#17067
20 dead. Multiple injured. Apparently he wrote some crazy shit online somewhere about immigrants.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12262 Posts
August 04 2019 01:56 GMT
#17068
Gonna have to close 8chan at some point
No will to live, no wish to die
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
August 04 2019 02:01 GMT
#17069
On August 04 2019 10:56 Nebuchad wrote:
Gonna have to close 8chan at some point

can you school me on 8chan vs 4chan? i'm not familiar with 8chan
get rich or die mining
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 04 2019 02:05 GMT
#17070
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12262 Posts
August 04 2019 02:08 GMT
#17071
On August 04 2019 11:01 Alejandrisha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2019 10:56 Nebuchad wrote:
Gonna have to close 8chan at some point

can you school me on 8chan vs 4chan? i'm not familiar with 8chan


I know we're not supposed to just link stuff when it comes to politics on TL but in this case it's probably better if I just link you this article that just came out:

+ Show Spoiler +

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/americas/2019/08/04/the-el-paso-shooting-and-the-gamification-of-terror/
No will to live, no wish to die
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-04 02:28:02
August 04 2019 02:14 GMT
#17072
On August 04 2019 11:08 Nebuchad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2019 11:01 Alejandrisha wrote:
On August 04 2019 10:56 Nebuchad wrote:
Gonna have to close 8chan at some point

can you school me on 8chan vs 4chan? i'm not familiar with 8chan


I know we're not supposed to just link stuff when it comes to politics on TL but in this case it's probably better if I just link you this article that just came out:

+ Show Spoiler +

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/americas/2019/08/04/the-el-paso-shooting-and-the-gamification-of-terror/

thank you
edit: disgusting. i remember that 'dropping a 20' or a '30/40 bomb' were staples of counter-strike vernacular. that it has actually come to real life is extremely disturbing.

columbine, in its time, was an unprecedented bodycount but I never heard of people trying to one-up him. the 'competitive' angle is extremely disturbing and displays an absolute neglect of human life. where real life and 'high score' are combined in mass shootings is really, really, really, bad for domestic terror. and it's not like you can always peg these people even if you have infinite information.

i assume most of the people who post in these shit holes don't aspire to be mass shooters.. maybe .01% of them. how to monitor? you simply can't. we're always going to be one step behind. i don't think it's a gun control issue but a mental health awareness issue. really shitty. i'm sure most of the victims were doing back-to-school shopping. goddam shame.
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
August 04 2019 02:25 GMT
#17073
On August 04 2019 11:05 JimmiC wrote:
How long until someone proposes all walmart check out workers are armed?


walmart greeters greeting you with an 8 gauge not much different from a school cop issued an assault rifle. both are probably on the horizon.
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
Starlightsun
Profile Blog Joined June 2016
United States1405 Posts
August 04 2019 02:30 GMT
#17074
For fuck's sake...
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-04 02:39:59
August 04 2019 02:36 GMT
#17075
i love that the right uses mass shootings as as way to promote gun proliferation and the left uses it to promote gun control.

is there such a thing as 'common sense' gun regulation that we have been hearing from democrats? when all they want to do is remove guns from citizens? it seems that 'common sense' gun regulation is to fight that when citizens are allowed to carry assault weapons that can kill double digit civilians in seconds, is to arm more people. this might seem like a boon for the NRA but do you really think the NRA wants more mass shootings?

partisanship has really compromised the intricacy of the discussion. by the 2nd amendment, it is appropriate citizens are able to arm themselves with weapons to protect themselves from both criminals and from potential government despotism. but if every citizen is able to carry an ar-15, shouldn't every cop have the same firepower? it's an arms race in our own damn country. and if citizens can't carry the same firepower that a cop has he is afraid he can be overrun by the government in the event of some kind of post-apocalyptic government takeover with citizens being shot up in the streets.

the more i ponder it the less i understand.
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
August 04 2019 04:29 GMT
#17076
On a tangent, repeated incidents like this are not only a tremendous human tragedy, but significantly erode US soft power worldwide. A government that cannot provide for its citizens security is not a successful government, and authoritarian countries (e.g., China) can easily point to this and say - "sure you might not have freedom of speech and all that, but at least you're not getting gunned down while shopping for bananas"

It is absolutely mind-boggling that the US refuses to improve its policy towards gun control. Firearms are a multiplier of the mental health, and terrorism / hatred problems in the US - it's not an one or the other.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7902 Posts
August 04 2019 07:13 GMT
#17077
On July 30 2019 13:42 JimmiC wrote:
The white shit is not that important to most of them. It is just a group where they can hate as hard as possible and fit in.

Well you could say the same about muslim terrorists. At the end they are people with a death wish and a colossal resentment trying to inflict as much pain as possible, supporting their hatred with an ideology.

The thing is, without the ideology, most of those killings would probably not happen.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
August 04 2019 08:18 GMT
#17078
round 50182723626384
time to listen to the same arguments again why nothing in the world can be done about crimes like these
FTD
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10657 Posts
August 04 2019 08:47 GMT
#17079
Only a matter of time before this happens in my state.

Going to consult with my uncles what gun is best to carry with me. Always favored 1911s.
Skol
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
August 04 2019 09:13 GMT
#17080
On August 04 2019 17:47 Emnjay808 wrote:
Only a matter of time before this happens in my state.

Going to consult with my uncles what gun is best to carry with me. Always favored 1911s.

I don't mean to condescend. But I'm glad I live somewhere where this line of thinking is unnecessary.
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